Political Islam

The comment is baffling, do we yet again need to remind so called experts that the extremists participated in events such as 911 & the London Subway's had various levels of post secondary education. Am I expected to forget that? Extremism's roots are not in a lack of education, they are and always have been based on hatred of non believers.

bear, do you or do you not call ISIS or Boko Haram terrorists?

Would you argue that a university level education is standard in their ranks?

The Muslim Brotherhood? Hezbollah? Hamas?

Uh huh.

This is a fantasy. Islam has no distinction between politics and religion. Separation of Church and State is specifically a Christian idea. For them, there is only Sharia, and the whole world must be governed by it.

The so-called extremists are simply imitating Mohamed, a no-good bandit who started the whole messianic violence and forced conversion or death thing.

My Muslim friends deny this, but they would be taken out and shot for not being good Muslims; they enjoy the freedoms of a non-totalitarian society. For them, religion is for births, marriages and funerals, just like many Christians. Interestingly, they are originally, maybe via a couple of generations, from the Indian subcontinent.

These peoples' forefathers were specifically forced, either directly by threat or indirectly by opportunism to serve their new overlords, to convert from their customary religion to that of the Arab overlord.

What passes for intellectualism in the Muslim world is using bigger words to say "Kill the Jews and Infidels"

Jinnah, the father of Pakistan said that the creation of Pakistan was the biggest mistake of his life. When India was looking at gaining independence, Jinnah put forward partition with an independent muslim state as a negotiating position, never believing for a second that it would actually be agreed to by Gandhii, Nehru et al. I think he foresaw the essential dysfunction inherent in a muslim state in the modern world, and he, Jinnah, was a modern man -- prescient.

A middle class in the Muslim state? Guess I am stating the obvious...does not exist.You either follow sharia,or die.

It is wise to take whatever a Muslim has to say with a hogshead of rock salt. They are not capable of intellectual honesty even when they seem to be saying what you want to hear.

Which is why my wife's mom sent her Muslim daughters to a Catholic convent for education. Some countries are ok at producing educated girls, but many Islamic countries fail miserably, the vast majority get a substandard education, not for the lack of want, but availability.

http://waltherpragerandphilosophy1.blogspot.ro/2012/08/egoistical-conversions.html

A post-secondary education does not make an intellectual class. Greece and Rome had an intellectual class such as Virgil, Plato, Cicero, etc. An intellectual class disappeared during the "dark ages" and appeared again during the "enlightenment". Some intellectuals such Marx, Nietzsche, etc were not to helpful to western society, but others, names escape me at the moment, were in advancing western society.

A strong classical liberal democracy, or such as democracies were in Greece or Rome were, creates an intellectual class or group of thikers. Islam has never had any of this.

Yes, NME666, even Luther, Calvin, Menno Simons were intellectual thinkers and of the intellectual class. The Inquisitionists were like the rabid Islamists are today.

Those who persist in living in and keeping their adherents in a seventh century mindset and punishing any deviation with death will never develop an intellectual class.

Too often making "Western" education available means nothing more than a pure "cash-for-credentials" scheme, a contract between two sets of scoundrels. My university has run programs in Pakistan and the Caribbean, having chased after every World Bank or Inter-American Development Bank grant that was going. For the most part, we sent third-rate professors to provide outdated and irrelevant pabulum to students, but we ensured that everyone got a degree of some sort. We all try to out-do the other institutions in recruiting as many students from the Middle East, China, and South Asia to fend off the results of Canada's demographic winter. In a variant of the old Russian joke, "We pretend to teach them, and they pretend to learn."

Yea well, a large number of "Islamic Terrorists" are University educated, western university educated, and middle class at that.

Unless they and their funding are coming from the vast network of slums in Toronto, London, or Calgary, they are indeed coming from middle class/ educated sources.

Most of the leadership anyway, so that must be what we need, better educated terrorist leaders to deal with than we already have./

The reason why we have so many Jihadists abandon Canada to commit terrorist acts in Africa and the Middle East is because we don't have a developed middle class here in Canada.

Come on. Repeat after me. We NEED to develop the middle class here in Canada to prevent the root causes of terrorism. Lance might want to start writing Shiny Pony's talking points.