O, Sweet Saint Of San Andreas

Perhaps a donation to the American Progressive Bag Alliance is in order?

Reusable shopping bags, unless thoroughly cleaned after each use, quickly become bacteria farms.

Ever tried to clean one ?

Vilifying a product that's FUNCTIONAL and convenient is the Eco Twit WAY. Making the lives of regular people more complicated seems to be an end goal of socialists.

p.s. Canadian Tire sells black 'eco' bags that are made in *China.* Stupid, stupid, stupid.

So: I buy a package of single-use green garbage bags (wrapped in plastic), and a similar pack of single-use plastic bin liners, but I cannot take them home in a plastic bag, which I would normally use as a bin-liner, or reuse some other way.
Please explain the rationale.

So we consolidated all our plastic bags into one pack, and put it in the recycle bin. Got a message back that plastic bags DO NOT get put in the recycle bin, or we will have our service suspended. These people have advanced their cause way beyond reason itself.

I wonder what ever happened to this? http://www.wired.com/2008/05/teen-decomposes/

That's as bad as if the Conservatives were to ban 100W lightbulbs.

Oh wait.

Ted, my reusable shopping bags are cotton canvas. I got them years ago. If I want a bag at the store I ask for paper, and then use the paper bags for collecting burnable trash that goes into the woodstove. Salmonella poisoning is a kitchen hygiene issue, and it wouldn't surprise me that 'bay area' folks are stupider than most Californians. It couldn't happen to a more deserving group of idiots.

Oh the poor tired huddled masses that are going to lose it all by paying a 10 cent bag tax. How about the unfortunate germ-a-phobes that can't figure out how to wash a shopping bag. It's all becoming clear to me; there's a lot of people with far too much time on their hands!

I recall about 20 years back the eco-nuts successfully prevented the production of biodegradable plastic. This new polymer involved corn starch. The eco-nut excuse was this defeated their recycle agenda. The main intended use for the bio-degradable plastic was the manufacture of garbage bags.

I am still at a loss as to who would/could recycle a garbage bag.

John Galt. What other plastics do you burn in your stove? You realize that wood stove manufacturers state in their user manuals that you only burn dry clean wood. No painted, glued or pressure treated wood. No garbage or refuse, no coloured or glossy paper for fire starter. I just bought a replacement stove and those stipulations were in the owners manual.
Our municipal and regional by laws and provincial regulations also prohibit burning plastic.

mid island mike

I've always used the modern stoves, the one I just installed meets today's standards for clean burn in California, which has the toughest regulations. Not withstanding that it is not recommended and in fact it is prohibited in many if not all jurisdictions to burn plastic in any manner, ie: bonfire or woodstove. Tell me what make and model stove you have so I can look up the manual and see what is recommended as fuel and what is not recommended.

mid island mike

Just another example of California decadence. Why not debate plastic bags? It sure beats voting money for water projects to alleviate the state's severe lack of water reservoirs to hold snow melt from wet years to tide them through drought years, like the present one.

Of course the manual says not to burn plastic "These materials contain chlorides which will rapidly destroy metal surfaces and void warranty." That warning is for people in urban areas so the smell of burning plastic doesn't bother the neighbors... my nearest neighbors are miles away, the warnings do not apply here.

The stove has been used as a primary source of heat for more than a decade and there has been no destruction of metal surfaces, rapid or otherwise, and it's long past warranty. The stove continues to burn efficiently with negligible chimney deposits.

Yeah, I've gone into these stores and it does not impact me one bit. I fill all the little fruit and veggie plastic bags with my stuff all double and triple bagged. I also ask to see the store manager and rip them a new one saying that I am from out of town travelling and am pretty pissed off that I cannot access a proper bag to buy some groceries. I tell how thoughtless they are for inconveniencing out of town customers that are clueless about their little ecoprick programs.

I wrap any food in those thin plastic veggie bags, including chicken and other meats. The most likely place your food will pick up harmful bacteria is the checkout counter conveyor and from the hands of the checkout person that handles everyone's money. It's nothing but basic kitchen hygiene and preventative measures to keep your family from getting sick. ...and your mom was right, wash your hands frequently. Good health is our greatest asset.

I use free plastic shopping bags to take my lunch to work. When I've used it once for my lunch containers I then put my household garbage in it and its off to the BFI bin.

spray the reusable bags with Lysol and then throw the can in the garbage.

How California's plastic bag ban could backfire
https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/californias-plastic-bag-ban-could-172932058.html

"It's a transfer of wealth of hundreds of millions of dollars from Californians to the pockets of grocers and their union bosses," Daniels said in a phone interview. "It's exporting 2,000 jobs from California to China where they manufacture the reusable bags."

I opposed this plastic bag ban to our NDP councillor -- no response -- sent a second message cc'ed to Mayor Rob Ford got a very sarcastic response -- in the end they lost -- amazing arguements from marxist councillors like Fletcher -- "because LA has a winning hockey team Toronto wants to be a winner, LA has accepted platic bag bans and they won a stanley cup so should toronto" WTF -- can I say moron -- that was her arguement :O