If BC doesn't want it, the East does.

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What was that saying, again? Oh yeah, Let the East burn brightly in the night.

Shame though, that Bloomberg is sharing this story, but I guess we don't have any non-blacklisted Canadian media willing to write anything beyond hair styles.


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Didn't you just know the Iving oligarchy had to dip their beak in the trough before oil flowed east from AB/Sask? Gotta feed them oligarchs, that's what crony capitalism is all about.

Bring on the advance of open source capitalism and smite down these dinosaurs of corrupted capitalism.

Sorry - typo - I refer to the "Irving" oil (distribution) dynasty of course -

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/27/us-pipeline-irvings-special-report-idUSBREA2Q10A20140327

Let it hereby be known, that I, Joe Molnar am at the present time in the process of petitioning the CANADIAN FEDERAL GOVERNMENT with the following petition ( shown below) duly signed by 25 (twenty five ) Canadian Citizens in Woodstock, Ontario in regard to our current landlocked natural Resource (OIL) in Alberta and Saskatchewan and not NOT getting WORLD PRICES" for our oil resource.
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I n the NATIONAL INTEREST of ALL CANADIANS, the landlocked oil resources of ALBERTA AND SASKATCHEWAN must be made available BY PIPELINE to the tidewaters of Canada in order to get WORLD PRICES FOR A NATURAL resource for the benefit of ALL CANADIANS, INCLUDING FIRST NATIONS!
WE, the undersigned Canadian Citizen petitioners urge parliamentary action, on thIS
Canadian National Issue PRIOR TO THE NEXT FEDERAL GENERAL ELECTION

(25 signatures are in place)

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Therefore this message seems relevant in this thread on SDA regarding our landlocked Canadian resource (oil).

KEYSTONEE BE DAMNED!

Dated October 8, 2014

I AM
Joe Molnar
Woodstock, Ontario Canada

New Brunswick has just elected a government whose base will invent anti-development rationalizations out of whole cloth vis the opposition to gas development and fraccing. I wouldn't hold my breath on this.

The western pipeline is going to happen. The BC govt will agree to it with the quid pro quo being that Alberta agrees to buy power from a new hydro project in northern BC.

You heard it here first.

NB's new kleptocrats Will do what Irving tells them to do - as it's always done.

Patience, Grasshopper.

Money talks. Bullchit walks.

When the acne scarred greentards, the gay hipsters, and the Marxist intellectual poseurs start paying $12.00 for a gallon of gasoline - that pipeline will go through. By then, it will do so WITHOUT having to bribe first nation freeloaders, dirt farmers, and other assorted flakes.

Can anyone tell SDA readers who owns the OIL REFINERY in COME-BY-CHANCE IN NEWFOUNDLAND?

Is it IRVING owned?


"...dirt farmers," Hey, careful with that paintbrush.

Started by Shaheen Resources in 1971, purchased by Calgary's Harvest Energy Resources in 2006, purchased by Korea National Oil Corporation in 2009.

Lance, buddy - this story is in the National Post today. Not all Cdn media are asleep at the wheel.

Sorry, access via tanker only, unless you want to get into a slanging match with greenies on running pipelines under water. Then it's tanker size that matters. Biggest thing out of Montreal when I used to sail, was 78,000 DWT and hauling short loads of grain.

Hey Joe,

Don't Canadians pay world price?

A $20 Billion energy tax on Canadians and transferred to oil companies?

BC will find a way to get the pipelines built through this Province.We have to,there's no alternative. Half the tradesmen in BC are working in Alberta and Saskbush,and many of them may not return unless there's equally good jobs to be had here.

Desperation will set in, about two years from now when the BC Liberals have to face an upcoming election, the government will bribe the Indians well enough to make it happen. The greens will be left spinning in the wind.

I'd rather dangle a pipeline to Valdez Alaska to the Yukon government and tie it in with Norman Wells and the NWT government. I doubt that the Alaskan's would object. Now that would be an "end run" around Christy, the greenies and BC. It's actually shorter to Shanghai from Valdez by tanker than from Kitimat by 1300 km. At 15 knots/hr, that's saving 2 ship days sailing.

If we use existing highway infrastructure, it's only 3250 km from McMurray to Valdez via highway, a heck of a lot shorter than to New Brunswick at 5000 km. Cross country, it would be even shorter.

Presto Manning said it best: THINK BIG.

Just think about it....how much of an insult did Obama have to deliver to get our quarrelsome regional elite to actually agree on something. That takes some doing. And who said he never acheived anything.

Honestly, I like the idea of all of the jobs and the money for the development staying here as opposed to being subject to US issues.

Also like the idea of getting East Coast into the game, maybe they'll stop drifting off into scoialist world...maybe.

St John is a better deep water port. But only if it makes sense and is funded privately, as soon as somone needs government guarantees or subsidies then forget it.

But love the fact that the Indians were already sold. Love the idea of a Canadian solution whether it is Energy East or Northern Gateway.

A pipeline and railway in a common corridor from Alberta to Alaska has been in the proposal stages for over a decade. Most of the aboriginal groups along the route are on board and they're presently trying to secure financing.

The good thing is the terrain to the east is more stable and easier to work in than the west. HDD has matured a lot solving a lot of the risk at water courses. Endbridge is likely dead in the water for a decade and pursuing other options is a good idea.

Isn't this the old "reverse line 9" proposal?

Keystone might get built but not any time soon. Northern Gateway is dead, not gonna happen. Environuts and Aboriginals will make sure of that. In fact, it's a safe bet that they could stop any pipeline in Canada.

No, that is an incorrect assumption. The aboriginals have no power. The media panders to them because the low-information public likes that sort of stuff. It seems as though you've bought into their propaganda. Don't believe everything you think.

Northern Gateway is under construction and on schedule. Aboriginals are part of that labor force. Of course those are not the aboriginals that love to 'protest' for attention. Either the media choose to remain clueless to this, or perhaps they don't think that information will sell advertising.

And recently sold to Silver Range Financial Partners out of NYC.

John I have been blockaded by the same band who is sending their people through to work for the proponent they are blockading. Just because they are working on does not mean they won't turn around and try to stop it. The FN out here have a lot of pull and can basically bring a liner project to it's knees. Pushing Endbridge right now just harms the chances of getting the LNG done.

....New Brunswick has just elected a government whose base will invent anti-development rationalizations out of whole cloth vis the opposition to gas development and fraccing....

Hmm seems to me equalization should end for this place ...no.?
Send it East or send it North...but send it we will. End of story.
And the Eco Zombies can go cry in George Soros face....

stk

This all boils down to who natural resources belong to. They should be treated as belonging to the people (in the singular sense) who live "above" or "below" them and when selling/leasing them should take into account, when pricing, not only current volatile prices but their strategic value to possible future generations too. Immediately all sell-outs would slow down mightily.

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