Minister Ambrose, Heart and Stroke are bloviating.

Lance, are you also reducing your nicotine intake, or is it similar to when you smoked? For your sake, I hope it is the former. Best of luck with your initiative.

Its never been about smoking. This proves it beyond any doubt.

This is pretty much the pattern for advocacy groups. You finely hone your arguments for banning or restricting tobacco usage, then along comes a product, like the e-cigarette, that makes many of those arguments irrelevant. It then becomes imperative to demand *immediately* comparable restrictions while you try to manufacture new arguments. So far, all they seem to have is that e-cigarettes must be banned or restricted because they "look like" cigarettes. Unfortunately, Ms Ambrose wears a permanent look of responsible concern, and, having been traumatized earlier in her career in encounters with environmentalists, calls reflexively for "further study".

That's good you've been able to eliminate the more harmful smoke from your nicotine intake. The government's initiative appears to be focused on keeping e-cigs from minors. There is particular concern with teens now using e-cigs to deliver other drugs such as cannabis. While I doubt if they will have any more success than they do with keeping cigarettes and alcohol from teens, there is some social merit in their efforts, insofar as it does not impinge on the freedom of choice for adults.

It’s all about tobacco taxes and as always busybody bureaucrats justifying there existents.

http://www.electroniccigarette.ca/tag/tax/

I particularly like this sentence “(provided Canada doesn’t get pseudo-scientific and ban indoor use)”.

Let's see; the Canadian Save the Forest groupies were/are funded by the U.S.A. Soft Wood Growers Groupies.

The Canadian Stop The Pipelines are/were funded by the U.S.A. Oil Industry funded NGO Foundations.

Who is funding this "hurry up" campaign. The Tobacco Industry?

Cheers;

I'm a libertarian generally with socially liberal leanings. I'm certainly on the pro-side of e-cigarettes. About a year ago I progressively switched to e-cigs and haven't looked back. The more I used them, the more I didn't feel like a cigarette and now I'm done. I feel great and my wallet is fuller. And I'm not plying myself with carbon monoxide and a million other chemicals. Nicotine is about as harmful as coffee on its own. Leave us be, government and concerned citizens. Mind your own business.

This isn't anything like smoking. Nor are kids going to start smoking if they try these first because smoking tastes effing disgusting in comparison, plus it costs 10 times as much. There is no "natural progression". I can't believe (well I can, actually) that Vancouver banned these from beaches and parks. I can see how you might not want cigarette butts all over these places, but that's not an issue here.

Here in Montreal, one vape shop snubbed Health Canada a few years ago offering nicotine liquid with the physical products and now there are over 30 stores. I see almost as many people vaping as smoking now, as people convert. Good luck shutting this all down now...unless you want to have a large and illegal underground trade.

So e-cigarettes are a "gateway" to real cigarettes? Fine. Now where's the call to have a ban on all restaurants serving Shirley Temple drinks to the kiddies, so they can act all grown up like Mom and Dad? Ms. Ambrose?

What a load of crap.

I've been using e-cigs for about a Month, they are great! Within the first two weeks of usage I was down to a pack of cigs a week, pretty good for a pack a day smoker. Haven't had a smoke in just over a week now and feel great... the only time I jones for some lovely tobacco is when I have a beer or two. E-cigs are awesome and I would recommend them to anyone serious about quitting tobacco. Whether its about tobacco or e-cigs, make no mistake this issue is about control, as in those that want to control others, nothing more nothing less... call it a test case.

On e-cigs since May, down to half as much nicotine, haven't had a cancer stick in 5 months and no desire whatsoever to touch tobacco. I go for days without vaping now. Gateway my fat hairy a$$. Puritanism is alive and well and lives on the leftard side... The CPC are lucky the alternative (libs and dippers) are worse. Conservatives? Pshaw. Not by my book.

And the rationale for draconian antismoking laws is secondhand-smoke of which there is none with e-cigs, so restricting their use to places where only tobacco smoking is allowed is ludicrous. This is about the Left wanting to run lives and the bureaucracy wanting both more money and to save money from lost tobacco revenues. (Lifetime nonsmoker here, BTW.)

Well, as a Libertarian, people should be allowed to hurt themselves. And as someone brought up as a Christian, people should be allowed to offer charitable aid to those people. However, the government chooses to monopolize charitable functions and dictate behavior.

It's revealing that none of you have picked up on the fact that the kids are increasingly using e-cigs to ingest other drugs besides nicotine. That's the real problem, not any 'gateway' to tobacco use.

Citation please, John Galt, because I follow the vaping community closely and I don't hear of this at all.

Lance, John G, it is true about using them for "other" uses than nicotine. I personally have several friends that use them for that purpose. I also work with several younger guys (early 20's) that rage about them for that purpose. In my opinion so what? Really no different then "tobacco pipes" or rolling papers is it? What they are really missing is the tax revenue, there is no shortage of stories about people quitinb smoking with the vaporizers. I plan on getting one myself after hearing many stories personally about people quitting tobacco.

"We have heard that e-cigarettes may be a gateway for teens to begin smoking

NO Politics is a gateway for psychopaths to control others. Fixed that for you Ambutt.

Another charity struck from my list. Any charitable organization that attempts to bring to bear the horrible weight of the government in its effort to force me to conform to its special interests is no organization I want ever with to be associated.

Galt, getting stoned by any means, cannot be stopped. The kids will blaze away by one means or another. Not advocating it, but just saying.

I realize that people get emotional when discussing their addictions. If all you're looking for is validation of your opinion then conduct a poll. Don't ask for discussion unless you're open to different viewpoints and opinions you won't agree with.

Started the vaping 4 on April 1/14
Had one week where I snuck one per night for 5 days, otherwise haven't touched he'd a cig since.
Down to a 3 nicotine level and vape when a real urge comes upon me.
Nannystate be dammed.

The quote that opened this discussion isn't about restricting what adults want to do with e-cigs. It specifically relates to "e-cigarettes - teens - smoking". All of my comments have been directed at that subject.

So don't start inferring what isn't implied. Some of you want to rant about e-cigs and adults; I couldn't care less what other adults do. However if you're in my vehicle, or in my office or in my house you can't smoke anything, including e-cigs. Other than that, it's not an issue for me, adults can do whatever they want.

Thanks to vaping it's damn rare to see someone smoking a real honest to god cigarette these days. That's the concern for the various advocacy groups. Their funding is drying up and they're panicking.

However if you're in my vehicle, or in my office or in my house you can't smoke anything, including e-cigs.

I presume you don't cook in your house due to the horrors of vaporized vegetable glycerin. lol