University! “Say whatever you want to say to my face”

Update – 9:15am Saskatchewan time, and Gormley’s still waiting for the U of R President Vianne Timmins to return his call. And let’s see if we can dig up this guy’s identity – email me privately if you like.
Update 2. Timmins has apologized.
Update 3.
OK let's start now. Kevin Daniels FB page: FAWKED UP JOHN GORMLEY LIVE AT HIS OWN BOOK LAUNCH HE WAS SO SCARED …. (1/2) #UofRFreeSpeech
— John Gormley Live (@JohnGormleyLive) March 20, 2014

What ya see when ain’t gotta a gun…..
yah just need some “take down” skills:-))))
just another stereo typical chief spence drunken indian, i am happy to say that they are becoming a minority! (no i know he wasn’t drunk but that seems to piss them off)
“Say it to my face!” the man screams from behind a mask.
I can hardly think of a better metaphor for Canada’s Indian Problem(tm).
I think he should go to some sensitivity training for the cultural group he offended with the costume…
At around 13 minutes:
“Hey, we signed treaties here to allow you guys to live in co-existence with us, not the other way round…”
Kind of says it all.
Vianne Timmins biography at the U of R website mentions her status as “a member of the Bras d’Or Mi’kmaq First Nation in Nova Scotia.”
Will this influence her statement to Mr. Gormley, assuming any is forthcoming?
http://www.uregina.ca/president/executive-team/president/biography.html
I’m guessing that the U of R cheerleaders have that bit of info highlighted (remember highlighting?) and posted in their change room now, beside, “just say no, to cowboys and indians”.
On one hand they want to be independent from us and make their own decisions but on the other we’re supposed to show up and check their water treatment plants to ensure they have potable water. They are supposed to be getting an education here so why can’t they see their own inconsistencies? There is no way to reason with someone who is so blind to their own faults or so unwilling to take any responsibility for themselves.
Greg Renouf likely knows who these idiots are. Mr Gormley ably demonstrates how to deal with such ass-hattery.
I want you to bring me….a shrubbery!
If these Indians hate us so much now ….. what would they do if we stopped giving them the 12 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR!
It’s time to take the native population off the tax payer teat and have them grow up and take responsibility for themselves. That is the problem … the Indians have no pride, low self-esteem and not much ambition. If they were making their own lives, they would suddenly be proud of them selves, their self esteem would rise and they would realize how far even a little ambition can get you.
In short, it’s time for the Canadian Native Indian to join the great society that is keeping them in an apartheid situation where they are in the government hand out trap. They need to be kept busy making their lives … like the rest of us.
Strange bedfellows: bravery and anonymity.
There’s a curious relationship between anonymity and bravery.
Man, that video was hard to sit through. Between the native zombie and the mindless students it shows you are far down the toilet universities have gone.
“If these Indians hate us so much now…”
No ‘ifs’. Imagine how much they’d hate us if Stephen Harper hadn’t apologized for the horror of those Residential Schools, eh?
Did Obama go to the Indians and bow and scrape and apologize for Custer? Nope.
Shows you what a Statesman Canada has over what America has, eh?
This is the University of Regina. Handed over to the indians decades ago and serving as nothing but a day care and indoctrination centre for ages 20 to ?? ….
Useless waste of money, time and oxygen.
“Did Obama go to the Indians and bow and scrape and apologize for Custer? Nope.”
Not specifically schools – he just apologized for EVERYTHING.
http://nativevotewa.wordpress.com/2009/12/31/president-obama-signs-native-american-apology-resolution/
Oh, he signed a piece of paper instead of giving a speech.
I guess he was tired of speechifying that day, eh?
My take on apologies is that if you apologize for EVERTHING you’ve apologized for NOTHING.
My favorite part:
“The Apology Resolution comes with a disclaimer that nothing in the Resolution authorizes or supports any legal claims against the United States and that the Resolution does not settle any claims against the United States.”
nyuk nyuk nyuk that’s taking responsibility. LOL
I’m guessing that the U of R cheerleaders have that bit of info highlighted (remember highlighting?) and posted in their change room now, beside, “just say no, to cowboys and indians”.
Actually Marc, that’s sound advice for many early 20s females… not that it should be limited to those groups.
🙂
Saw “Tonto and the Lone Ranger” with Depp playing Tonto and some whitey playing “Lone Ranger”
We laughed all the way through, so bad it was good
I always wondered as a kid why they called Whitey “Lone Ranger” cause if he ever stopped quick “Tonto” would have been stuck in his butt.
But I digress.
This individual looks like he found a crow on the freeway and stuck it on his head, what is with the mask?
Don’t he want his Mom to be glad he has finally left the basement?
Just. Freakin’. unbelievable.
I could not watch the whole thing.
University, where truth, respect, go to die.
Need a small can of “whup ass” for that idiot.
If he is too scared to show his face you don’t need a big can
Is that not the smallest drum anyone has ever seen?
I guess that is so the “protestor” can effect a getaway.
search for Uof R “cowboys and indians” cheerleaders.
Laughable at best….
no feather in your headress white eye!
DAMMIT!!!
I finally see a real, live Sasquatch but don’t have a gun …nobody will believe me.
Bubba
“”Is that not the smallest drum anyone has ever seen?””
made in China!!!!
Does he shoot, poison or trap eagles?
Looks like he scared ’em to death…
Exactly! Furthermore, cut the 12 billion or so from Quebec’s welfare cheque and ROC would have a great surplus.
What BC said @ 12:58. The universities have become like Mao’s Red Book brigade, with the universities being run by mindless and useless presidents.
The university throws under a bus a group of young people who just for the fun of an evening party dress up like a Hollywood version of cowboys and Indians but this bunch of bullies demand that they and only they have a right to speak at a public event and the consequence, the university president who hung the students out to dry and orders them take sensitivity classes phones to apologize to Gormley. Its these idiots who need to be dragged before John and ordered to apologize and then ordered to take a course on civility and respect.
Who were the civilized ones last night, it’s pretty obvious. My respect to John for his self control.
Ken (Kulak) – And Timmons is one of the most useless of those presidents (just reprising her performance as useless Academic Vice-President at UPEI).
OMMAG – Yes, Regina has hired someone as “Executive Lead for Indigenization” and made that their top priority in their academic plan. If there are any serious students at U of R (and I didn’t see any in the part of that video I could bear), they need to get out now.
River Rat – I didn’t they wanted non-aboriginals looking after their water treatment systems; rather they want to be compensated when they mismanage or damage the water treatment systems that the government has provided.
Get over yourselves “First Nations”. The entire history of the world is that of invasions and people conquering other people. You’re not special. Go make something of your lives and stop living 300 years in the past.
As a friend of mine says, “20,000 years on this continent and you guys hadn’t even developed the wheel when the white man showed up. In the giant 1:1 scale game of Sid Meier’s Civ, you lose.”
I have to congratulate John Gormley for keeping his cool in the face of that fat troll wearing a freakin’ bird on his head like Johnny Depp.
There’s no way on Earth I could have stayed on message and not strayed off into taunting that chicken-wearing psycho until he swung at me.
You want to know what’s wrong with Canada, in a nutshell? That kinda sh1t right there is meant to be settled in the parking lot. In our culture, that is what is supposed to happen when some imbecile disrupts your speaking event and calls you out like that. You drag his sorry @ss to the parking lot and you settle his hash, and that’s the end of it.
But nooooo, after 70 years of We-Know-Better-Than-You Liberalism, now there has to be an Inquiry, and Police, and Officials must Confer, and Vapid Insincere Apologies Made After The Fact shall be taken as sufficient redress, and on and on and ON it goes.
Until the rule of law returns to our Universities western civilization will continue to slide..
Skip ahead to around 29 minutes. Is this what university is turning out these days? What a waste of human resources. If we closed down the majors this type is studying and we eliminated the minimum wage and reduced unemployment insurance, just think of the competition for low skilled jobs. We could compete with China and India. Canada could become a major supplier of manufactured goods again, because I don;t think this one is even capable of flipping burgers without sliding into the fry vat. sarc/
I didn’t hang around with Liberal Arts students in university. Found the naivety too maddening. But this is far beyond what I witnessed. Is this young woman the product of too many recreational drugs? Does anyone know what see was talking about?
I lasted for 35 minutes and then had the overwhelming urge to open a vein. How Gormley resisted the urge to strangle someone is beyond me. A whole class of victims blaming all their problems on the evil white man without even contemplating that they might be at fault for their own problems. Takes a good man to put up with that crap for a full hour. Wonder what all those students want to be when (if) they grow up. Whatever it is you can rest assured it will need taxpayer support.
I read through the many comments related to this episode on Gormley’s Facebook page. Wow. Any notion I once had that we live in a society where civility matters was quickly ripped to threads. “The Barbarians Are Inside the Gates” would be quite apropos to describe the majority of opinions there. 🙁
Someone like that couldn’t survive in the 300 year old world of his ancestors. No, they live in the world of endless renegotiation of their mercurial treaties. There is a huge Indian industry involving lawyers (white pimps) willing to continually push the grievance and entitlement envelope.
About 22 years ago, I represented a forest company (my employer) on Vancouver Island involved in a multi-sectoral, NDP-indspired land use circle-jerk. An Indian similar to this (representing only himself) would take the floor periodically and rant for a hour or so. The process people who facilitated the meetings wouldn’t say anything. I would always get up and leave the room, usually unaccompanied by my more politically correct colleagues. One time, during a break the renegade Indian approached me and talked to me quite cordially. I got the impression that I was the only person in the room for whom he had any respect.
A number of years ago my MP asked me what I thought should be done with the native issue. I told him to take all natives under 40 years old and cut them off government assistance. Then give them 5 years to get a trade or education. After that they’re on their own. Those over 40 are too entrenched to cut loose so let them ride out the old system. He thought I was too harsh.
Agreed, and furthermore in many instances are in control of the gates.
And the people slept.
I figure we should offer every young Indian between the ages of 18 and 25 a one-time payment of $250,000 on the condition that, upon acceptance, they sign away their treaty status for ever.
In the long run it would be a hell of a lot cheaper. The smart, able ones will survive and contribute, the others won’t do either. It might take several generations, but eventually it would put an end to all this BS.
I’m curious if Mr. Klein aka Saskboy knew the protesters were coming prior to his recording the event
I say go back to a civilized system like the Code Duello.
http://acfencers.tripod.com/codeduello.html
We should go back to a more Civilized way to settling disputes. Code Duello.
http://acfencers.tripod.com/codeduello.html
I agree with you on the generational aspect but not giving young people $ they haven’t earned. That’s a recipe for all kinds of abusive behaviour which would lead to taxpayer support in rehab or prison. They need to take responsibility for their own lives and work towards a goal in order to feel fulfilled.
Mommy Indian doesn’t get up in the morning, prepare breakfast for the clan, and see the children off to school while the Daddy(most of the children are from different Daddies and are only half siblings) goes off to work. They all get up when they feel like it, if they’re even home, because they’re on ‘Indian Time’. The children may or may not show up for schooling and Daddy Indian likely does not have a job because if someone hires him his attendance is sporadic too.
They do not have a nuclear family and a schedule with goals in life.
They are dysfunctional and have never seen what a functional life looks like.
Their last best hope was the residential school system which gave the children a schedule with 3 meals/day and schooling.
Politically it is an avenue which is DEAD to them forever now because they demonized the residential school system as the sexual abuse equivalent of Auschwitz for short term monetary gain.
I don’t care what happens to them but this wanton harassment, threatening, and interfering with productive society has to stop.
EXACTLY THIS..!
“…A number of years ago my MP asked me what I thought should be done with the native issue. I told him to take all natives under 40 years old and cut them off government assistance. Then give them 5 years to get a trade or education. After that they’re on their own. Those over 40 are too entrenched to cut loose so let them ride out the old system. He thought I was too harsh…”
Long fracking overdue.
12+ Billion a year. …of My tax dollars so you can sit on your (_i_) and protest how badly you’re being treated and then have the unmitigated audacity to show up & protest against the very industry that feeds my family and likely his too.! WTF.??
The Natives would have you believe that they wish for a return to the “old days”…I say lets give it to them.! Indian act dead and gone. No payout, you get what land and homes you live on. You get all the rights and priviliges of all other Candians including the obligation to pay taxes. You also get a Canadian Passport. Dont like the deal…then feel free to piss off to Iran.
When this country finally finds some BALLS…maybe this will happen…I’m not holding my breath
“That’s a recipe for all kinds of abusive behaviour which would lead to taxpayer support in rehab or prison.”
You’re absolutely right. And you forgot the morgue. But the goal is the breakup of a corrupt institution that dooms them all (see Oz’s comment) anyway.
Paul in Calgary
“i know he wasn’t drunk”
If he wasn’t drunk how does he explain his uncivilized actions. What was his excuse for his mental break down. I don’t expect we accept his actions as normal and becoming of a normal person in our society with actions that are acceptable.
What did the First Nation leaders have to say? Did they think his actions were normal and acceptable? I hope they excuse him as being drunk and least of all as a normal person and someone they are proud of.
What an example for their children and they thought residential school’s harmed their children.
If you were a more curious person Mr. Legaarden AKA BreakfastMeat, you’d know I regularly attend UofR public lectures, including 2 the week prior to this. So the answer is, no.
You should have just asked me, and I wouldn’t have bit your head off. I don’t appreciate your now regular attempts to stir up shit that you think will make me look bad.
I got rusticated twice for less but that was well before the powers of evil were exalted higher education.
Actually NME666 it looks kinda like he/she cut the bottom off a KFC bucket O’ Chicken.
The assumption here is that He/She is Native, how do we know that this individual is not practicing “culture theft” IE pretending to be something he/she is not?
Where is the “Lone Ranger” enquiring minds want to know.
Aaah brings back memories of yesteryear.
This is good apparently “Kemosabe” is Apachie for “Idiot” who knew?
http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2013/06/26/kemosabe_meaning_origin_and_history_of_tonto_s_word_in_lone_ranger.html