Remember High River: cast your e-VOTE to support Motion M-439 to privatize the functions and operation of the Canadian Firearms Registration System. Start here.
Remember High River: cast your e-VOTE to support Motion M-439 to privatize the functions and operation of the Canadian Firearms Registration System. Start here.
So when the Liberals take over they can fill it with anti gun Nazis and screw everyone over. Not a fan of provincial CFOs but at least provinces with a different mindset can have some control.
From the comments at the link,I’d say the “anti gun Nazis” are already in place.
We don’t need a “firearms officer” in every Province,after the person applies for his PAL or RPAL,he shouldn’t have to report to a virtual “parole officer” for every action he takes with a firearm, restricted or not.
The gun clubs would do a better job of providing information.The concept of ATT ‘s is absurd, just another deliberate thorn in the shoe of legitimate gun owners, by the anti-gun crowd.
We are an oppressed minority in this Country, too bad the HRC’s won’t hear our cases.
??? Seriously????
A ‘gun registry’ is bad enough in itself, but to privatize it? You’re going to turn over to a private group a list of who has what guns and where?
… And when the list gets “lost”, sold, or misused in some heinous manner, all the company has to do is say “sorry… we’ve taken steps to see that it doesn’t happen again”.
Maybe someone will get fired, maybe the company will face a steep fine of a few hundred loonies. Oh yeah. heads will roll.
Bad enough when the data is in the hands of the gov’t, but to hand it over to Target or AT&T?????
Talk about Canadians sucker punching themselves… What you should be doing is eliminating the registry.
I’m sorry I thought the problem was registering guns not who runs the registry.
+1 Joe @ 2:02
Says it all.
How about demanding the repeal of C-68 instead!
The petition want all my info. I don’t want to give that to them. I do not know what they will do with it.
I do not trust ANYONE anymore.
“The petition want all my info. I don’t want to give that to them.”
Then don’t give your real info, you don’t on this forum do you? It’s common sense not rocket science
@ don Morris:
I agree. Repeal C68, don’t feed us manure.
As if the ATT ever stopped anything.
Don’t give up hope! The rumoured announcement is the Heenan Blaikie Law Firm is going to be either non-existent or creep back to his hole in Quebec. this just has be an indicator there is not the same revenue availability for unelected or former elected liberalized party people.
My conjecture this is more than the lack of librano access to sponsorship and/or a perceived danger of coming too close to the ongoing municipal funding scandal.I think it might just be the normal taps are shut off for the firm’s members.
Hopefully PMSH can keep any similar conservative Law Firm from filling the gap. Cheers;
How about repealing all the provisions of C17 as well, along with the prohibited by name firearms? Also, replace the “mother may I” PAL or FAC with a “refusal if unfit” system.
All of the above. Thumbs up!
The problem is ANY kind of registry.
I want my private property rights enshrined and protected under the constitution. Including firearms!
They’ve got your IP address, all other info is irrelevant.
I think it’s funny that I can take a .50 cal long rifle that is deadly and accurate up to 1.5 miles and “plink” all day long on crown land but I will fo to jail if I take my sig .22 caliber pistol to the middle of nowhere and shoot pop cans…the laws are just stupid …the spaz 12 shot gun is banned in Canada because “it looks to tactical”
keep the P.A.L. thing and the rest be gone ..it’s about education , keep the hunter safety stuff because it does help hunters or those who are learning to hunt. outside of that allow open and concealed carry , keep the att but it would simply give you the authority to open or conceal carry anywhere no just to a range where you guns must be locked up tighter than fort knox..that’s just silly. maybe have it so while traveling in a vehicle the fire arm must be unloaded , how ever loaded magazines are acceptable just not in the gun while traveling.
get rid of the prohibited class period move every singe fire arm into just a regular pal class , this way you are educating people yes there are a lot of stupid people in the usa who have guns that makes me nervous. not about limiting or denying them ownership but teaching them basic safety.
enshrine the castle law , stand your ground laws, and private property rights into our constitution . make an explicate and unchangeable rule that no matter what happens no matter how many massacres happen no matter how many kids shoot there siblings accidentally the gun ownership debate will NEVER be up for debate ..look at the usa its a mess down there. because they use these stupid people as some sort of trigger or excuse to eliminate guns and gun ownership witch is silly.
my 2 cents.
ofaycat >
“The petition want all my info. I don’t want to give that to them.”
They already have ALL your info.
Why cower from them?
Your country, your free speech, you may as well use it while you still have it.
The first gun I purchased was a winchester 30 30. I walked into the Bay, payed my money and walked out with a pretty little carbine and two boxes of shells. I want those rights again and to hell with any piece of crap legislation brought in by that fn commie turdeau. My rights under the BNA. The rights I was born with.
We use dynamic IP addresses, don’t you?
…agreed, and in a perfect world that would be the case. I want free unlimited energy too.
However we live in a world full of idiots, and far from perfect. When you choose to live amongst idiots you have to accept that laws are enacted to control idiots, and you’re inconvenience is just unintended consequences to the bureaucracy.
Most of the counties in the USA have extremely low homicide rates and some of them have very high gun ownership rates.
The rates of homicide are simply increased by gangsters in a small number of counties who are shooting one another.
The gun control issue in Canada has never been concerned with logic and reason, it’s about emotion, political propaganda and using any opportunity to rack idiot-control up another notch. A quick search on militarization of police forces will fill in the details.
I cast my e-vote.
I don’t have to accept idiots at all. And I don’t need government or non-government groups policing or criminalizing my rightful and lawful activities.
Sign this petition? Sure … right after I’m declared dead.
Dynamic IP Addresses don’t hide anything. Your Server’s computer system records all traffic and relates you to any new IP.
Everyone. We lost our freedoms in one big swoop; we can’t get them back the same way.
One Small Step At A Time.
I would trust a private contractor long before a Liberal Appointed Lackey. Just check out the High River Incident. They knew what guns the residents owned. How???
Motion M-439 will remove the Gun Owner Registry from the Criminal Code. Get It??
The only thing I will support is the total repeal of C68 and C17. People should be allowed to own firearms without any statist knowing what they own. Perhaps one could compromise with the state on concealed carry by allowing the state to know who’s got a CCW. Concealed carry is desperately needed in Canada as presently there’s no legal way for an individual to protect themselves with their legally owned firearms.
For those who live in remote rural areas, SSS is the preferred method for dealing with dead criminals. We need the same rights for Canadians who live in cities. That PMSH has made absolutely no move to repeal C68 despite having a majority doesn’t bode well for the “Conservative” party as the only losers in High River were those people who registered some of their firearms. I know lots of gun owners who have registered none of their firearms and the only problems they face are the inability to buy ammunition due to the lack of an FAC. However, those with valid FAC’s are happy to keep fellow shooters supplied.
that’s nice you believe that you know what our server does
If it removes the licensing from the criminal code then it’s a step forward. You can direct us to the sections of Motion M-439 that are supposed to do that?
The only thing I will support is the total repeal of C68 and C17. People should be allowed to own firearms without any statist knowing what they own. Perhaps one could compromise with the state on concealed carry by allowing the state to know who’s got a CCW. Concealed carry is desperately needed in Canada as presently there’s no legal way for an individual to protect themselves with their legally owned firearms.
For those who live in remote rural areas, SSS is the preferred method for dealing with dead criminals. We need the same rights for Canadians who live in cities. That PMSH has made absolutely no move to repeal C68 despite having a majority doesn’t bode well for the “Conservative” party as the only losers in High River were those people who registered some of their firearms. I know lots of gun owners who have registered none of their firearms and the only problems they face are the inability to buy ammunition due to the lack of an FAC. However, those with valid FAC’s are happy to keep fellow shooters supplied.
Sorry for the double post – got an error message the first time that tried to post and made the incorrect assumption that my post didn’t get through. Weird error message:
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“That PMSH has made absolutely no move to repeal C68 despite having a majority doesn’t bode well for the “Conservative” party as the only losers in High River were those people who registered some of their firearms.”
In this case, the list of Firearms License holders would be all they needed for the addresses of which houses to search. The ‘gun registry’ was always a red herring. I suspect the ammunition grab was the real reason for the exercise.
I know quite a few Conservatives who have lost all faith in the party because of that. I expect the Conservatives will make some wild promise like repealing C-68, just before the next election. Some might fall for that again.
Well let’s try to stay grounded here.
Who would you rather vote for a party that promises to repeal c-68 and does a half assed job of it…or a party that promises a full ban on guns according to the u.n. ?
folks I don’t care how unhappy you are with the conservatives they are the only hope now. so be loud be vocal harass your mp’s if they are not doing what they promised to do. THAT IS YOUR RRIGHT AND OBLIGATION!!
Once again I think it’s about education. please read my above post!!
“However we live in a world full of idiots, and far from perfect. When you choose to live amongst idiots you have to accept that laws are enacted to control idiots,…”
The firearms legislation was enacted for one purpose: getting votes from the urban areas and women.
register nothing and if you have don’t re-up.
Privatize? Not a chance. CSA of guns, anyone?
How about the Conservative Party of Canada take “the functions and operation of the Canadian Firearms Registration System” and cram them up Justin Trudeau’s shiny pony? How about you boys and girls of CPC do what you said you were going to do, and kill this thing deader than the cod fishery? How about some of that?
Privatize, as if.
North: My comments are based on my training on advanced UNIX and excerpts I have read on Server Software. I left that field it seems like ages ago and so can’t remember the names of the user log files; but the names likely are different for every software package.
This is from the wording of the motion:
“Motion 439 – April 11, 2013 – That, in the opinion of the House, the Minister of Public Safety should, with the approval of the Governor-in-Council, rescind the existing agreements with the governments of the provinces and amend Section 95 of the Firearms Act to privatize the functions and operation of the Canadian Firearms Registration System, in recognition that the Parliamentary Budget Office has identified:
(a) provincial criminal justice expenditures as the largest contributor to rising public expenditures on criminal justice;
(b) policing expenditures categorized as fully dedicated to crime includes firearms programs when in fact they are non-criminal and should be administered as such; and
(c) law enforcement professionals spend too much time on administrative tasks at the expense of front-line policing.
I am going by the wording of item (b). That would indicate to me that it is the intent of the Motion to treat firearms paperwork as non-criminal.
Perhaps I’m being a bit hopeful, but what else is there; Shiny Pony?
I treat this as a “run it up the flagpole and see what transpires” sort of thing. But if you all walk away???
Jaimie MacMaster said: “The firearms legislation was enacted for one purpose: getting votes from the urban areas and women.”
That’s true, but there were two other items on the agenda. The second was to punish rural voters/trogs for daring to be off the Liberal reservation on every issue.
The third was MONEY. Two billion dollars vanished into the Firearms Registry and were never seen again. Two. Billion. Dollars.
Of the three I suspect that the money was the most important consideration.
See Obamacare for current example. Its not about healthcare. Its about money.