Happy New America: The Viral Photo Out of Connecticut That’s Giving Some Gun Owners Chills
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No different than Canadians when push comes to shove. We all lined up like good little boys and girls to register our guns too. So much for “From my cold dead hands”.
High River wasn’t enough? Alberta has a lot of sheep too.
Is there still a second ammendment? Only in the history books!
New York City has already used a registry to confiscate registered firearms – after, of course, making the registered guns “illegal.”
I wonder if they will reverse course when it Is realized how much revenue will be lost? Registering, licensing, zoning shops and ranges. licensing shops and ranges, licensing teachers of required courses – or just increase taxes on fizzy drinks?
Ummm…not exactly, BDFT. Not exactly.
But the less said about that, the better. As long as the liberals and red coats don’t get stupid, nobody gets hurt.
Making civilians register themselves and their property has preceded every organized tyranny from Egypt to Rome to Aristocratic Euro- imperialism – making civilians register arms or outlawing civilian arms has preceded every genocide in the 20th century. Like Canada, Australia, Europe and Britain, civilian firearms owners and private property are the canary in the coal mine in determining the toxicity of malevolent power structures developing in the modern constitutional, free state.
Americans have tasted true freedom and personal liberty, unlike their brethren in other encroaching UN police states. Canadians tasted some similar freedom due to the hunting/independent culture that developed in our vast rural areas. Canadian firearms owners resisted the 1993 police state edict, setting up a confiscatory regime, by not fully complying with orders to register their long guns or get a licence to possess what they already peacefully own, making the whole globalist gun confiscation agenda unenforceable under charter-based rule of law – color of law charter/constitutional abominations are needed to further the enforcement agenda in this circumstance (as we saw in High river, New Orleans and elsewhere). During registration here, the truthful estimates gauged Canadian registration compliance at only 63% overall with only a little more than 3/5 of the long guns that were really in civilian hands accounted for. So their plans to know what type of gun you had and confiscated via classification was dead – this is why they created the new mandatory possession licence as a back up plan to determine who had guns (of any type) when the general confiscation order comes (see High River as to how this shotgun approach to confiscation will roll out).
Registering a gun simply singles you out as a target for police abuse and legal harassment – it is the licence which will be used to target you for confiscation/incarceration. Americans will follow suit with more numbers resisting this control regime.
When Americans are forced into a state or Federal licencing scheme to own or possess firearms, they will know confiscation and incarceration is part and parcel of that UN-based pogrom – as it is in Canada today – Harper seems to be comfortable with having a certain group of Canadians held accountable to foreign legal constructs and targeted by police for intrusive abuses, duplicitous property seizure and malicious prosecution – he must be comfortable with this UN police state pogrom because he is comfortable with the current federal firearms licencing regime which was fully patterned from the UN model used in militarily occupying a nation – an incrementall version of civilian firearms confiscation which uses attrition via police/regulatory pressure to get firearms from peaceful civilian hand via infeasible regulations with siezure as a default for any arbitrary infraction – a control regime which incrementally reduces civilian ownership by creating undue criminal liability for the non criminal possession/use of sporting firearms and a nebulous regulatory regime which sets certain Canadians (lawful firearms owners) out as perennial criminal suspects and a fallaciously presumed threat to public safety – a regulatory regime virtually impossible to comply with which is abusively enforced, maliciously prosecuted and covertly ascended to by a government/administrative structure which sees their role as martinet controllers of a police-junta occupied population not civil servants in responsive liberal democracy.
The mindset and nature of the power structures in former constitutional democracies is changing and civilian firearms possession is a litmus test as to how far that nation has devolved into globalist statism.
The gun debate(ha!)is a perfect example of how extremists of both the partisan right and left build positional bunkers and ensure no fair middle-ground is ever found on any important topic.
I believe guns are a necessity and anyone should own any firearm they desire with no government involvement.
I believe all guns are dangerous and no private citizen should be encouraged to own any firearm.
And NEVER will these two sides meet because there is no room for something as silly as compromise when you have an ideology to take into battle.
BTW, High River was never anything more than a stupidly misguided attempt at safety. Stop trying to turn it into an equally stupid rallying call for the “cold dead hands” brigade.
And like the Canadian registry, BDFT – theirs won’t be worth the time of day.
There are two types of people conspicuously absent from that line up: the drug dealers, the gangbangers and ghetto trash…and the intelligent and otherwise law abiding preppers who will not be disarmed by political turd brains.
I encourage the liberal flimps to think of me as a ‘conscientious objector’ to gun control.
I expect that a good portion of that crowd are the famous NDP ‘Rent a Rally’ bunch who line up for the cameras. With a large crowd photographed the elites are saying “see here, these people are stepping up”
In Canada, when the registration scheme got started, the media dragged out compliant gun owners who supported the legislation.. They were called FUDDS..
An interesting story is making the rounds, in which a representative from Gun Owners of America was talking to the crowd, handing out business cards, etc.. The State Police put the run on him for illegal solicitation.. the salient fact was, one of the supposed assault weapon owners ran to the police and complained..
Smoke and Mirrors folks..
Great comments folks. Problem is that you are preaching to the converted. We all know what you are saying is prevalent and true.
But your message is lost here.
I am reminded of a Firearms Instructor’s radio add on local stations. I believe it begins: ” Exercise your right to own a firearm…”.
This single radio add does more to thwart the brain dead Pacifist monkeys than anything I have seen or heard elsewhere.
What’s this “we” you speak of? Got a tapeworm there, buddy?
Anyone in that line up is a complete idiot. Talk about iq test.
BDFT
Not all of us.
The mistake those guys in the line made was NOT bringing their guns with them. Loaded and ready to use.
So CO, what exactly is the compromise between ice cream and dog crap?
Thank you Ray for proving my point perfectly.
Maybe you should try talking to the guys selling ice cream.
Here’s a good compromise for you CO. You don’t tell me what I can own and I won’t force you to own what you don’t want to own.
They say that the law is unconstitutional but elected a critter that finds the constitution an obstacle.
Joe, tell me where I said I was against gun ownership.
Hmmmm? I’m waiting.
You can’t, because I didn’t. But, in challenging my opinion with a feeble false accusation you have also proven the point of my original post just beautifully.
Thank you.
Yeah well, the alternate media and word-o-mouth is frustratin’ their agenda south of the medicine line.
The “progressive elites are gonna learn the hard way that when ya get down to the Yanks are…..ha ha….revolting people.
Its called the knock-out game. Only mugging gun owning Americans, by an out of control socialist bureaucracy.
They will be sorry they registered as we found out in Canada. A gun owner is considered an automatic criminal by the Police.
“A gun owner is considered an automatic criminal by the Police.”
That seems to be a sad truth in this country.
There is a huge disconnect between today’s Canadian city dwellers and the hundreds of years of blood sweat and tears it took to build this nation. They have no conception that the firearm was, and for some rural folks still is, a vital tool for survival.
That said, I must also comment on the utterly stupid argument of some defendants of the long gun registry’s usefulness….that the police “need to know” for their safety. If law enforcement doesn’t assume a weapon is present 100% of the time, no matter what intel they have, their careers will be very short-lived indeed.
Finally….let me take this chance to wish all here a Happy and Healthy 2014.
The Libs are living in La la land if they think that all of those guys are registering ALL of their guns.
Yes, the Liberals have just made “criminals” out of 99% of them, but when they really want a gun, they’ll have one, just as the gangbangers will.
The new laws are much milder than Canada’s current legislation. No new magazines over 10 rounds. Existing high capacity magazines and assault rifles are grandfathered, but require registration. Long gun ownership is no problem and open and concealed carry are “shall issue” by local jurisdiction.
My take is this does nothing to address the problems leading to Sandy Hook. The left exploited the tragedy to inconvenience and stigmatize law-abiding gun owners.
Wikipedia “Gun laws in Connecticut”
The dutiful and obedient servants of a criminal government.
Why should I compromise when someone wants to take my property?
‘Assault rifle’.
One of the most misused terms of the last 20 years.
Kinda like how the concept of personal freedom being labelled as ‘right-wing’.
Canadian Observer, the difficulty with your two “extreme” viewpoints is that one of them has gotten 100 million people killed since 1900 and the other has not.
Guess which is which.
This is a recurring problem I find with educated Canadians who should know better. The very idea that there are some things which government must be kept out of is considered crazy and extreme.
Furthermore, there are some issues upon which there is no compromise position. Gun control is one, property rights are another, related one. Either I am a sovereign individual who has the right to property and self defence against unwarranted violence, or I am not.
Please pick one, Mr. Observer. There is no fence for you to sit on.
As long as there are Conservative American’s there will be guns, the left needs to get over it.
If military and police don’t outright sell them out the “back door”, they will build them in their garages and custom chop shops. That of course is not even considering the MILLIONS of “buried” guns in every part of the country.
The War on Drugs that the dope-head left hates so much is a joke compared to the lefts ability to crush the Second Amendment rights of intelligent free thinking people.
Sooner or later they’re going to paint themselves into a corner they wish they hadn’t.
A gun is a tool. What I own in the way of tools is none of the governments business. It’s that simple.
The US constitution’s 2nd amendment has been ruled to be an individual right by SCOTUS. Thus, were I in the situation of a CT gunowner I would register none of my guns. That has a risk as was the risk I took when I just registered a few guns when C68 came out and will likely bury about 1/3 of them given the actions of the HRGT in High River.
What I’ve noticed is that the response of police to people with unregistered guns are directly proportional to how likely they think the individual with the guns will respond if arrested. A fairly wealthy individual I know had his (completely unregistered) guns along with numerous other items stolen in a break in. He had no charges against him for having numerous unregistered guns. Were he a minimum wage nobody, most likely he’d be facing numerous charges.
In Canada, it is illegal to possess an assembled AK47 30 round magazine. There’s a ruling from a Calgary court quite a while ago where this was made clear. Thus, I can say without any fear of attracting police attention that I own a number of such magazines which are stored disassembled but can be quickly reassembled when the situation calls for this. To make a disassembled magazine illegal would have created such incredible legal headaches that this was the result. 3D printers will make it even more of a hassle for those moronic enough to believe that a 30 round magazine is a weapon (if one noticed certain types of springs being banned then stock up on them).
I’m in a position where I can afford to pay a lawyer if the situation calls for it. Thus, I can stick to my principles more. Given a “felon” designation in the US is a very serious label and hence I expect that a lot of people will take what they believe is their only option. However, it’s getting to the point where the time to shoot the bastards is drawing ever closer and closer.
Compromise. One side loses half of what it has, the other side gains half of what it wants. When that game is over the winner starts the game again.
Loki said: “However, it’s getting to the point where the time to shoot the bastards is drawing ever closer and closer.”
This is not something that usually happens in history. What -usually- happens is the screws get turned ever tighter, one notch at a time. Never so much that the people rise in anger, but never stopping either.
Then something breaks, and there’s hell to pay.
In the USA and Canada the thing which will break, in my humble opinion, is the welfare system. One day the food stamp credit cards will stop working. Given the monolithic nature if the US system, it may very well happen nation wide and simultaneously. Then the zombies will riot.
Or it could be cities defaulting on their bonds. Look at Detroit, then imagine that happening to NYC, LA and Chicago all in the same year. There’s more people in NYC city limits than there is in all of Ontario. Including Toronto. Suddenly, no more city services.
Really, there isn’t going to be an uprising against the authorities. There will be a very quiet turn to the Black Market and ever increasing amounts of business will be conducted under the table. Example, in Canada when the Registry was instituted there were an estimated 7 million gun owners, that number may have been as high as 10 million by some accounts. Two million people registered at least one gun. At least five million scofflaws, that’s the biggest number of people breaking a major law in Canadian history I’m pretty sure. It is doubtful that most of those people registered -everything- they owned, so the number is likely even higher.
That’s what is going on right now in Connecticut and New York, who also has new bans in place as of Jan 1st.
This will continue. The federal, state and city gvts will pass more and more bans and more and more taxes, as the number of people evading same becomes larger and larger. Until something breaks.
Yes, of course the advent of police targeting and kicking in the doors of private homes, and stealing legally owned property on fallacious policy based pogroms is nothing to complain about – if you are an obtuse martinet posing as a progressive.
americans have given up their freedom because they lack the courage to fight to keep it. Canadians will roll over for anything as long as someone says it is free from the government. I have been disappointed by both Canadians and my ancestors in America. freedom is a difficult thing to embrace, one has to actually do something for one’s self. when the cry is heard nation wide, what will the government do? you know you are no longer free. posting such drivel as I have does not make me free.
No different than Canadians when push comes to shove. We all lined up like good little boys and girls to register our guns too. So much for “From my cold dead hands”.
High River wasn’t enough? Alberta has a lot of sheep too.
Is there still a second ammendment? Only in the history books!
New York City has already used a registry to confiscate registered firearms – after, of course, making the registered guns “illegal.”
I wonder if they will reverse course when it Is realized how much revenue will be lost? Registering, licensing, zoning shops and ranges. licensing shops and ranges, licensing teachers of required courses – or just increase taxes on fizzy drinks?
Ummm…not exactly, BDFT. Not exactly.
But the less said about that, the better. As long as the liberals and red coats don’t get stupid, nobody gets hurt.
Making civilians register themselves and their property has preceded every organized tyranny from Egypt to Rome to Aristocratic Euro- imperialism – making civilians register arms or outlawing civilian arms has preceded every genocide in the 20th century. Like Canada, Australia, Europe and Britain, civilian firearms owners and private property are the canary in the coal mine in determining the toxicity of malevolent power structures developing in the modern constitutional, free state.
Americans have tasted true freedom and personal liberty, unlike their brethren in other encroaching UN police states. Canadians tasted some similar freedom due to the hunting/independent culture that developed in our vast rural areas. Canadian firearms owners resisted the 1993 police state edict, setting up a confiscatory regime, by not fully complying with orders to register their long guns or get a licence to possess what they already peacefully own, making the whole globalist gun confiscation agenda unenforceable under charter-based rule of law – color of law charter/constitutional abominations are needed to further the enforcement agenda in this circumstance (as we saw in High river, New Orleans and elsewhere). During registration here, the truthful estimates gauged Canadian registration compliance at only 63% overall with only a little more than 3/5 of the long guns that were really in civilian hands accounted for. So their plans to know what type of gun you had and confiscated via classification was dead – this is why they created the new mandatory possession licence as a back up plan to determine who had guns (of any type) when the general confiscation order comes (see High River as to how this shotgun approach to confiscation will roll out).
Registering a gun simply singles you out as a target for police abuse and legal harassment – it is the licence which will be used to target you for confiscation/incarceration. Americans will follow suit with more numbers resisting this control regime.
When Americans are forced into a state or Federal licencing scheme to own or possess firearms, they will know confiscation and incarceration is part and parcel of that UN-based pogrom – as it is in Canada today – Harper seems to be comfortable with having a certain group of Canadians held accountable to foreign legal constructs and targeted by police for intrusive abuses, duplicitous property seizure and malicious prosecution – he must be comfortable with this UN police state pogrom because he is comfortable with the current federal firearms licencing regime which was fully patterned from the UN model used in militarily occupying a nation – an incrementall version of civilian firearms confiscation which uses attrition via police/regulatory pressure to get firearms from peaceful civilian hand via infeasible regulations with siezure as a default for any arbitrary infraction – a control regime which incrementally reduces civilian ownership by creating undue criminal liability for the non criminal possession/use of sporting firearms and a nebulous regulatory regime which sets certain Canadians (lawful firearms owners) out as perennial criminal suspects and a fallaciously presumed threat to public safety – a regulatory regime virtually impossible to comply with which is abusively enforced, maliciously prosecuted and covertly ascended to by a government/administrative structure which sees their role as martinet controllers of a police-junta occupied population not civil servants in responsive liberal democracy.
The mindset and nature of the power structures in former constitutional democracies is changing and civilian firearms possession is a litmus test as to how far that nation has devolved into globalist statism.
The gun debate(ha!)is a perfect example of how extremists of both the partisan right and left build positional bunkers and ensure no fair middle-ground is ever found on any important topic.
I believe guns are a necessity and anyone should own any firearm they desire with no government involvement.
I believe all guns are dangerous and no private citizen should be encouraged to own any firearm.
And NEVER will these two sides meet because there is no room for something as silly as compromise when you have an ideology to take into battle.
BTW, High River was never anything more than a stupidly misguided attempt at safety. Stop trying to turn it into an equally stupid rallying call for the “cold dead hands” brigade.
And like the Canadian registry, BDFT – theirs won’t be worth the time of day.
There are two types of people conspicuously absent from that line up: the drug dealers, the gangbangers and ghetto trash…and the intelligent and otherwise law abiding preppers who will not be disarmed by political turd brains.
I encourage the liberal flimps to think of me as a ‘conscientious objector’ to gun control.
I expect that a good portion of that crowd are the famous NDP ‘Rent a Rally’ bunch who line up for the cameras. With a large crowd photographed the elites are saying “see here, these people are stepping up”
In Canada, when the registration scheme got started, the media dragged out compliant gun owners who supported the legislation.. They were called FUDDS..
An interesting story is making the rounds, in which a representative from Gun Owners of America was talking to the crowd, handing out business cards, etc.. The State Police put the run on him for illegal solicitation.. the salient fact was, one of the supposed assault weapon owners ran to the police and complained..
Smoke and Mirrors folks..
Great comments folks. Problem is that you are preaching to the converted. We all know what you are saying is prevalent and true.
But your message is lost here.
I am reminded of a Firearms Instructor’s radio add on local stations. I believe it begins: ” Exercise your right to own a firearm…”.
This single radio add does more to thwart the brain dead Pacifist monkeys than anything I have seen or heard elsewhere.
What’s this “we” you speak of? Got a tapeworm there, buddy?
Anyone in that line up is a complete idiot. Talk about iq test.
BDFT
Not all of us.
The mistake those guys in the line made was NOT bringing their guns with them. Loaded and ready to use.
So CO, what exactly is the compromise between ice cream and dog crap?
Thank you Ray for proving my point perfectly.
Maybe you should try talking to the guys selling ice cream.
Here’s a good compromise for you CO. You don’t tell me what I can own and I won’t force you to own what you don’t want to own.
They say that the law is unconstitutional but elected a critter that finds the constitution an obstacle.
Joe, tell me where I said I was against gun ownership.
Hmmmm? I’m waiting.
You can’t, because I didn’t. But, in challenging my opinion with a feeble false accusation you have also proven the point of my original post just beautifully.
Thank you.
Yeah well, the alternate media and word-o-mouth is frustratin’ their agenda south of the medicine line.
The “progressive elites are gonna learn the hard way that when ya get down to the Yanks are…..ha ha….revolting people.
Its called the knock-out game. Only mugging gun owning Americans, by an out of control socialist bureaucracy.
They will be sorry they registered as we found out in Canada. A gun owner is considered an automatic criminal by the Police.
“A gun owner is considered an automatic criminal by the Police.”
That seems to be a sad truth in this country.
There is a huge disconnect between today’s Canadian city dwellers and the hundreds of years of blood sweat and tears it took to build this nation. They have no conception that the firearm was, and for some rural folks still is, a vital tool for survival.
That said, I must also comment on the utterly stupid argument of some defendants of the long gun registry’s usefulness….that the police “need to know” for their safety. If law enforcement doesn’t assume a weapon is present 100% of the time, no matter what intel they have, their careers will be very short-lived indeed.
Finally….let me take this chance to wish all here a Happy and Healthy 2014.
The Libs are living in La la land if they think that all of those guys are registering ALL of their guns.
Yes, the Liberals have just made “criminals” out of 99% of them, but when they really want a gun, they’ll have one, just as the gangbangers will.
The new laws are much milder than Canada’s current legislation. No new magazines over 10 rounds. Existing high capacity magazines and assault rifles are grandfathered, but require registration. Long gun ownership is no problem and open and concealed carry are “shall issue” by local jurisdiction.
My take is this does nothing to address the problems leading to Sandy Hook. The left exploited the tragedy to inconvenience and stigmatize law-abiding gun owners.
Wikipedia “Gun laws in Connecticut”
The dutiful and obedient servants of a criminal government.
Why should I compromise when someone wants to take my property?
‘Assault rifle’.
One of the most misused terms of the last 20 years.
Kinda like how the concept of personal freedom being labelled as ‘right-wing’.
Canadian Observer, the difficulty with your two “extreme” viewpoints is that one of them has gotten 100 million people killed since 1900 and the other has not.
Guess which is which.
This is a recurring problem I find with educated Canadians who should know better. The very idea that there are some things which government must be kept out of is considered crazy and extreme.
Furthermore, there are some issues upon which there is no compromise position. Gun control is one, property rights are another, related one. Either I am a sovereign individual who has the right to property and self defence against unwarranted violence, or I am not.
Please pick one, Mr. Observer. There is no fence for you to sit on.
As long as there are Conservative American’s there will be guns, the left needs to get over it.
If military and police don’t outright sell them out the “back door”, they will build them in their garages and custom chop shops. That of course is not even considering the MILLIONS of “buried” guns in every part of the country.
The War on Drugs that the dope-head left hates so much is a joke compared to the lefts ability to crush the Second Amendment rights of intelligent free thinking people.
Sooner or later they’re going to paint themselves into a corner they wish they hadn’t.
A gun is a tool. What I own in the way of tools is none of the governments business. It’s that simple.
The US constitution’s 2nd amendment has been ruled to be an individual right by SCOTUS. Thus, were I in the situation of a CT gunowner I would register none of my guns. That has a risk as was the risk I took when I just registered a few guns when C68 came out and will likely bury about 1/3 of them given the actions of the HRGT in High River.
What I’ve noticed is that the response of police to people with unregistered guns are directly proportional to how likely they think the individual with the guns will respond if arrested. A fairly wealthy individual I know had his (completely unregistered) guns along with numerous other items stolen in a break in. He had no charges against him for having numerous unregistered guns. Were he a minimum wage nobody, most likely he’d be facing numerous charges.
In Canada, it is illegal to possess an assembled AK47 30 round magazine. There’s a ruling from a Calgary court quite a while ago where this was made clear. Thus, I can say without any fear of attracting police attention that I own a number of such magazines which are stored disassembled but can be quickly reassembled when the situation calls for this. To make a disassembled magazine illegal would have created such incredible legal headaches that this was the result. 3D printers will make it even more of a hassle for those moronic enough to believe that a 30 round magazine is a weapon (if one noticed certain types of springs being banned then stock up on them).
I’m in a position where I can afford to pay a lawyer if the situation calls for it. Thus, I can stick to my principles more. Given a “felon” designation in the US is a very serious label and hence I expect that a lot of people will take what they believe is their only option. However, it’s getting to the point where the time to shoot the bastards is drawing ever closer and closer.
Compromise. One side loses half of what it has, the other side gains half of what it wants. When that game is over the winner starts the game again.
Loki said: “However, it’s getting to the point where the time to shoot the bastards is drawing ever closer and closer.”
This is not something that usually happens in history. What -usually- happens is the screws get turned ever tighter, one notch at a time. Never so much that the people rise in anger, but never stopping either.
Then something breaks, and there’s hell to pay.
In the USA and Canada the thing which will break, in my humble opinion, is the welfare system. One day the food stamp credit cards will stop working. Given the monolithic nature if the US system, it may very well happen nation wide and simultaneously. Then the zombies will riot.
Or it could be cities defaulting on their bonds. Look at Detroit, then imagine that happening to NYC, LA and Chicago all in the same year. There’s more people in NYC city limits than there is in all of Ontario. Including Toronto. Suddenly, no more city services.
Really, there isn’t going to be an uprising against the authorities. There will be a very quiet turn to the Black Market and ever increasing amounts of business will be conducted under the table. Example, in Canada when the Registry was instituted there were an estimated 7 million gun owners, that number may have been as high as 10 million by some accounts. Two million people registered at least one gun. At least five million scofflaws, that’s the biggest number of people breaking a major law in Canadian history I’m pretty sure. It is doubtful that most of those people registered -everything- they owned, so the number is likely even higher.
That’s what is going on right now in Connecticut and New York, who also has new bans in place as of Jan 1st.
This will continue. The federal, state and city gvts will pass more and more bans and more and more taxes, as the number of people evading same becomes larger and larger. Until something breaks.
Yes, of course the advent of police targeting and kicking in the doors of private homes, and stealing legally owned property on fallacious policy based pogroms is nothing to complain about – if you are an obtuse martinet posing as a progressive.
americans have given up their freedom because they lack the courage to fight to keep it. Canadians will roll over for anything as long as someone says it is free from the government. I have been disappointed by both Canadians and my ancestors in America. freedom is a difficult thing to embrace, one has to actually do something for one’s self. when the cry is heard nation wide, what will the government do? you know you are no longer free. posting such drivel as I have does not make me free.
ya all are one dumb bunny.