University of Saskatchewan "Engineering Incident"

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From: U of S Announcement
Sent: October-25-13 8:15 AM

Wednesday's precautionary sweep by hazmat officials, of an engineering chemistry lab, was prompted by a student who threatened the potential use of dangerous chemicals. This student was arrested after a search of his home revealed chemicals stolen from the university. He has been charged with theft and remains in police
custody pending a court appearance today.

The student's name Mohamadmahdi Kowsari. A photograph is attached.

Developing.


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Oh those crazy Irishmen!

I am really digging this Orwellian newspeak! Bravo!

My first thought was it had to be a Mennonite or a Hutterite.

And what are these "dangerous chemicals"? The newspaper story makes absolutely no sense. Back in my university days those who were less concerned about the potential for a chemical reaction not going as planned would mix together nitric acid and glycerin. The one guy who was the local expert in this matter claimed it was far safer than it appeared at first sight and the trick was to make sure that the resulting product was very pure. Needless to say, the NTG was used in various pranks around the university.

Then there was the ubiquitous Hg fulminate and related compounds which were poured in liquid form onto various floors in the buildings and made a satisfying bang whenever anyone stepped on the dried explosive. The housekeeping staff used to grumble about blackening of floors but police were never called in.

Presumably universities have become more puritanical as of late as all of the explosive chemistry experiments we engaged in were during the 1970's which were a period characterized by freedom of expression and investigation.

Just part of a broad strata of Canadians.

Nobel invented dynamite, right? No Nobel Prize for creative uses of explosives, right?

Muslims have won two science Nobel's total since inception. Let that sink in. 1,500,000,000 of these geniuses and two prizes in chemistry, medicine and physics combined.

Time to create a Nobel in Creative Uses of Explosives.

One problem. The Nobel is only awarded to people who are alive.

Damn, back to the drawing board. Hard to give Nobel's to suicide bombers.

Probably just working on a cure for Joooos and other filthy unbelievers.

Loki are you trolling or joking?

A great time honoured curiosity among youth who are intrigued by things that go BOOM!

We used to build bombs with carefree abandon; out of the sheer joy of blowing stuff up like stumps and garbage cans. We got pretty inventive with FFFG black powder; although we weren't all gung ho on reenacting Guy Fawkes proclivities because we had no political bent.

Cue politically correct freak show conniption fit...maybe he was just getting ready for Halloween type fireworks and wanted to build his own...


Cheers
Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief

1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”

Mohammad coefficient of 100%.

Nothing to see here. Move along.

Multiculturalism: Working as intended since 1982.

Just another visit from the Vibrancy Fairy.

I am with Trudeau the younger on this one: what did WE do to make HIM make explosives?

a can of gas and a match would do more damage

Geez, where have we seen this before?

Oh yeah. EVERYWHERE.

Hans, when we were kids 8-10 we got a case of stump blowing dynamite and a box of non-el caps, we entertained ourselves one summer by creating a mortar out of cast sewer pipe and the explosives.. you know, you can throw a soup can full of concrete almost 500 yds, with 1/2 a stick..

Incidentally, nobody died..

Unbelievable. When will our government wake up? Stop bringing these folks in already!

His LinkedIn profile is still working. I thought he might be the lunatic son of an emigre, but in fact he graduated from Arak University, three hours from Tehran by car. In other words, it should have been obvious to anyone he was an Iranian agent, and the immigration officer daft enough to sign off on letting him into Canada should be dismissed forthwith.

Rest assured this is not the only Iranian spy building bombs in Canada's universities, just the one stupid enough to get caught.

Then you realised they don't send their young men to foreign universities to learn how to engineering to apply to the violent destruction of their host's society.

Who does?

Oh, and by the way, just to add to the fun---he claimed to have been working on biofuels!

I spent the first four months of 1986 on patrols in South Down to deter PIRA from using such homemade mortars. Because when we didn't do that, people died. It cost me my marriage, but it is important to look into who is playing with explosives and learning how to make their own, and into why they want to.

Now remember, you can't cast aspersions on muslims because of the actions of one individual unless he owns guns or is a conservative; then you can blame all the gunowners and/or conservatives on the continent.

From the article: " Where he would get a chance to present his side of the story and we'd hear all of the evidence and then a tribunal would make a decision about his continuing status at the university," he said."

Oh wow! So PC of him.

you'd think these asshats that write this stuff would know about google, and there fore realize how stupid it is to try and hide the "facts"

"Shields collapsing, Captain." - Lieutenant Sulu

"There are no signs of intelligent life anywhere." - Buzz Lightyear

Is October Islamic history or Islamic chemistry month?

Bally Hoo Sandbar!

Peek a Boo Snackbar!

I hope that Mohammed sues the balls off the fairies who have chosen to
make an example of him. If he ever does make some explosives I'd suggest
the first use is to blow the president of USask to hell (not far for any
university "official") and then use some to do the same for the "media"
representative.

He was probably at U of S on a Billy Sol Hurok memorial scholarship.

Anyhoo Gaydar!

Anglican convert. Bank on it.

We will have to wait and see what this is all about, but what I can tell you is that there are now so many muzzie students and muzzie professors on Canadian university campuses, many with serious attitude problems, that it is only a matter of time before one of them decides he wants his virgins.

Looking at Linkedin, it appears this muzzie went to Arak University, which means he is Iranian. Enough said.

When I was a kid, my basement chem lab was better equipped than the one in my high school. I started out with a chemistry set from the Eaton's catalog, but was so crestfallen when I discovered that you couldn't really do anything interesting with it that my dad kindly let me help myself to materials from the assay office at a mine plant he was dismantling, so I got really busy. Thus, I had sulfuric, nitric and hydrochloric acid in gallon containers, a Kipps generator for making hydrogen, plenty of (in retrospect) highly dangerous reactants and lots of other way cool stuff, and would happily while away the hours in my basement lab "experimenting", i.e., making fireworks, rockets and other cool pyrotechnical stuff. Alas, I could never get the atomic absorption spectrophotometer to work. I also used to go up to the corner drug store in our small town and have the pharmacist order bulk chemicals for me: "Hi, Mr. Smith, I need another couple of pounds of potassium chlorate and a pound of sulphur, please." And he'd actually order it for me, and at a cost affordable from my 13-yr olds' allowance. It boggles the mind to think what would happen if you asked a pharmacist to do this today. Of course, I was trying to buy red phosphorus to mix with potassium permanganate, not to use to make crystal meth (which hadn't even been invented then). BTW, Potassium chlorate, sulphur and any kind of powdered metal (easily got from any machine shop with a lathe) can be combined to make a great rocket fuel.

Great story webley! When I was young there was a kid I knew who was seriously into chemical experiments like you were, and he actually set his parents' basement on fire by accident! It was the hot topic in school for months.

I was not a chemical person, more into electronics, but did crazy dangerous things too like using the high voltage transformers in TV to wreck all sorts of havoc. Today, I take pleasure in showing my sons cool things that most kids will never see, albeit in a little more orderly way!

Sulphuric acid? Any gals go on a date that went south lately? Any rebuffing of this lads advances? You female co eds had better cover up!!

When I was a kid we had neighbors who had a kid who was retarded. LeRoy was harmless but he always wanted to start fires. One year his parents bought him a chemistry set.
Predictably a few months later he blew up the basement, setting the structure on fire.
The kid was smarter than we thought.

A WMD stockpile in the making? How close was he to crossing the Obama Red Line?

I was wondering why CJME wasn't giving out the name of the man charged,,,at first I thought it might be because he's "colored folk", heck I can see now, that it was just because his name is so hard to pronouce!

As an mech engineer with background in organic chem (planned for med school) there are several chemicals we used to handle in the labs that would definitely take an arm off in small quantities when titrated.

He was planning something.

Yeah sulfuric and nitric acid mixed with the correct material can make a cornucopia of tri-nitrates.....which all go boom....

Yeah back in the day door handles, toilet seats and hallways were frequently mined with fast drying fulminates....contact explosives....interesting times....

Neither Brad, just some undergrad university reminiscences from a simpler time where the most destruction caused by student pranks was the damage from flushing some Na or K in metallic form down a toilet. Not something I engaged in personally as I thought it was too destructive.

A common distraction in boring labs was to pour some nitric acid into a large beaker (just a bit on the bottom) and than throw in pellets of NaOH which would make a fairly loud bang when the two reacted. There was the 50% H2O2 on NaBH4 trick which gave a surprisingly large bang when a few drops of the H2O2 reacted with a 100 mg or so of NaBH4. Then there was the watching LiAlH4 catch fire when water was poured on it, but the great amusement caused by spilling a bit of T-butyl mercaptan in the arts building and watching it be evacuated. We knew how to have fun with chemistry back then.

Said: "The university uses diligence in the handling of such materials."

Unsaid "...except in the case of students stealing and hording potentially dangerous chemicals, where we just have to get lucky in catching them."


Not quite sure what all the fuss is about. Story only mentioned h2s04. I mean, wouldn't want it pitched in my face, but it's not too hard to procure. Sounds more like simple theft at this point.

I'm pleased that someone caught this muslim before he harmed anyone.

25 seems a bit old to be filching chemicals from the lab but its hardly unusual. (I outgrew the practice after high school but, as the comments above illustrate, there were plenty of U students who didn't.) If Mohamad was planning on manufacturing explosives, I'm damned if I understand why he would have taken sulphuric acid home.

60 years ago, I had a roomate in Chemical Eng, who used to bring home ethyl alcohol in 500 ml flasks for our "gentleman's" liquor cabinet.

Let's face it folks: If the guys name was Billy Smith, this story wouldn't have made the last page of the Sheaf, much less off-campus news. And what's all this bullshit about Iranians? I've never heard of an Iranian suicide bomber, and most of the 30 or 40 thousand Iranian immigrants here in Canada left their homeland because the cops or the basiji had taken an interest in them.

Since you can probably look it up in dozens of places on line, I don't think it's out of place to point out that the nitration reaction, for making things like nitrocellulose, nitroglycerin, etc. does require some sulfuric acid in the mix to absorb the water released from the organic material by the nitric acid. Essentially it dries the nitro-product, and keeps the reaction from being degraded by water buildup.

Just another pious Muslim looking to practice Jihad. Adding more human sacrifices to allah.
Be assured though, the Government has told us thee folks will assimilate.That Islam is the Religion of peace.

Too many assumptions being made here. None of us are responsible for what we were named; and being named Mo doesn't mean he was a practising muslim.
In fact, as Zog points out, the vast majority of Iranians in Canada fled the rise of the Mullahs. Most Iranians that I know personally are just as cosmopolitan, if not more so, than the rest of us.
I'm just as guilty as Loki and others here of playing with things that went bang in my 'youth'. Lets also not forget this dude was in Engineering; not the most benign of student bodies...

On the OTHER hand...there IS a mention of threats...
"prompted by a student who threatened the potential use of dangerous chemicals." ?!
THAT needs further explanation.

Sulfuric acid can be used for a number of "not good" results. Yes, you can use it as a catalyst to nitrate toluene or glycerin with nitric acid. But that is dangerous while you make the explosives.

Another use is to use it as the ignition source for an ammonium nitrate / diesel bomb. Acid takes a little while to eat through a latex "timer", then oxidizes the diesel until it ignites and sets off the nitrate. McVeigh used a device like this, I believe.

When I was in university, I procured a litre of sulfuric acid from the chemistry stores without much difficulty, for use in science demonstrations for public school students. I needed diluted acid to adjust pH in various solutions, but the chemistry department only stored and distributed fuming acid. I had to dilute myself...

Sulfuric acid is the most common inorganic chemical manufactured in the world - getting it is pretty easy.

The pathetic little people, the denizens of modern "universities", will wet themselves when faced
with anything stronger than spit. I recently walked into a friend's lab and saw some burettes
set up for titration. There were stickers on them, saying that they contained 0.01 N hydrochloric
acid; and gloves and protective glasses were essential in handling this equipment. 0.01N!!!!
That's much weaker than commercial "muriatic acid" (which is hydrochloric acid) used for
removing rust.

A few things deemed hazardous by the feebs really are dangerous. A very, very few.

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