The Five Horses Of The Apocalypse

Ya know, it the librul idiots are being stuck with insurance increases and with the bill, why should I complain? If our offspring are going to have to pay, why should I complain. Have you listened to your offspring lately. It is all gimme, gimme, gimme. I don't have to empty the garbage. You can't discipline me. etc. Well, they are going to have to pay or die. They are going to have to work or starve. At some time they will look up their old librul school teachers and take revenge. Meanwhile, I'll be dead and lovin' it. Actually, I don't want them to take revenge on their teachers and professors. I want that scum to have to live through what is coming.

After single payer, without cross border access, the States will find a way to tax benefits or reduce availability for credits by income levels. Then when the Federal government runs out of money and some entity, someplace says United States of America is a "third world country.

The Brokerage (vote buying) political party will then download it's share of the cost on to the individual States and the then vaunted U.S.A. Government system will continue to pay for care with the diagnostic system damaged as the various State Governments stop equipment upgrades and proper maintenances. Can't happen?

Ask a Canadian who experienced the tightening up process and when Diagnostic Equipment (x-ray machines) were found to be ineffective in providing a proper image, plus the long delay in the introduction of sufficient MRI equipment. The percentage of ineffective x-ray machines which came to my attention was 47%. The wait times for MRI information stretch from months to years.

Does anyone have another figure or is able to corroborate? Cheers;

Rall and a few other lefty commies coming to their senses....

"Too late, too late!!" The bitter cry....

From Sarah Palin's lips to God's ears.

Oblameya didn't heal the planet,,
He made hell freeze over.

Quoting Palin to the Kos kiddies, Sacrilege!
Shrillary should be throwing empty scotch bottles by now screaming "No, not her, not the one that must not be named!"

I like Rall's comment about Obama being a Kenyan socialist, without the socialism.

I love the sound of schadenfreude in the morning. It sounds like lefty head explosions.

Yes the responses to Rall on Kos are hysterically funny. It's always good to see the socialists turn on each other.

But there is a deeper tragedy here. There is no question, even by those on the right, that the US healthcare system needs reform desperately. The US spends more money and gets worse health outcomes, both public and private, than any other industrialized nation. The problem is that the crapulous legislation promulgated by Pelosi (let's not forget about this California dimbulb in all this) and the incompetent impletmentation by the Obama administration have hopelessly tainted the issue for a generation.

The US is going to have to wait a long, long time before there are any real improvements to their broken system.

Just reading this at ZH, sry if it was covered before or in tips. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-26/legal-glitch-has-potential-sink-obamacare

O's mandate says: To receive the credit, the law twice says they must buy insurance "through an exchange established by the state." But 36 states have decided against opening exchanges for now.

Cluster pluck.

There were two reforms that would have gone a long way to addressing the costs in the US healthcare system, Tort reform and consumer access to every health insurer. It is estimated that class action lawsuits add at least 25% to the costs. Lack of access to more than 2 insurers at the state level adds another 10 to 15 percent. it's ironic that the US system is often characterized as having "worse health outcomes" yet they have virtually no waiting lists, better doctor access and demonstrably better R&D compared to, say, Canada and Britain. If health outcomes are strictly determined by longevity, US life expectancy is marginally lower but there are a lot of contributors to that stat besides the healthcare system.

If there is one thing I've learned from Hollywood, Evil will always surround itself with Idiots.

Rall dismissed Palin's contention too hastily. The ACA was indeed designed to move the US towards single payer but the genius of the system, which the institutional left could care less about in terms of function, is that private insurers will be eventually blamed for the inevitable failure to deliver. They have been mandated to insure the uninsurable on the promise of subsidies for some classes of the insured. The result will be unaffordable insurance for all except the nutured and growing underclass whose ranks will have swollen so much by by 2016 that single payer will be the Dems single campaign slogan to victory.

As someone who has used both systems, I can say that while the US system is twice as expensive (the US single payers: Medicare, Medicaid and VA pay out equivalent cost per capita as the aggregate Canadian system before you even add in the cost of the private system complete with mandates), there is no comparison as to the quality of care and service. Also, one can still avoid all third parties and directly contract with a provider. This will all change with the ACA.

The stats which show lower quality of outcome of the US health care system suffer from the same statistical attributes that imply that Winnipeg is the murder capital of Canada. Pull out one demographic and everything changes.

As with anything else damaged by the dead hand of government, US health care could be reformed with a good dose of capitalism and for those who fall through the cracks, charity, or state assistance (vouchers) are a much more effective cure as the deviation should not be the driver in any effective system.

Yea, well regardless of what anyone here say's the “End Times” will hit New York City first. It's always that way in the movies, don’t you people watch the movies?

Otherwise the end times happen every day to someone somewhere, especially when walking in the wrong neighborhood at night, or living in an African Republic.

Well its nice that Mr. Rall thinks Barry is a doofus and all, but lets remember one thing. Mr. Rall thinks Barry's a doofus for NOT implementing single payer, centrally planned and controlled healthcare.

Mr. Rall is a communist piece of doodoo, if you read the whole article. I suspect he'd be ok with death camps as long as only old white Republicans were put in them.

Frankly, I don't want this guy on my side. A lot.

By the way. For Canadians who don't know, the US health system on the whole has a -much- higher standard of care than the Canadian system. The worst, crappiest, most overcrowded and understaffed public hospitals in the worst dumps in the USA, like Detroit MI or Mount Vernon NY, are about -equal- with Canadian hospitals. The much hated and derided VA hospitals are about -equal- with Canadian hospitals.

Private hospitals are of course extremely superior to the crappy county hospitals and the VA. Canadians don't like to hear that, but then nobody likes to hear they've been played for a sucker.

We're suckers. We should all wear a freakin' sucker stuck on our foreheads.

Impeach, don't complain, impeach! The real idiots here are congress sitting on their hands as an open criminal regime hollows out America.

The best irony of the whole story?

A Canadian company did the website design!

http://stuartschneiderman.blogspot.ca/2013/10/who-chose-cgi.html