Amen.Put me in charge of food stamps. I'd get rid of Lone Star cards; no cash for Ding Dongs or Ho Ho's, just money for 50-pound bags of rice and beans, blocks of cheese and all the powdered milk you can haul away. If you want steak and frozen pizza, then get a job.
Put me in charge of Medicaid. The first thing I'd do is to get women Norplant birth control implants or tubal ligations. Then, we'll test recipients for drugs, alcohol, and nicotine and document all tattoos and piercings. If you want to reproduce or use drugs, alcohol, smoke or get tats and piercings, then get a job.
Put me in charge of government housing. Ever live in a military barracks? You will maintain our property in a clean and good state of repair. Your "home" will be subject to inspections anytime and possessions will be inventoried. If you want a plasma TV or Xbox 360, then get a job and your own place.











How dare Mr.Evans use common sense or hold people accountable for their own decisions. Doesn't he know that everything is Bushes and Harpers fault.
Just a reminder that there are freeloaders on both ends of the $75 billion food stamp program - of course the entitlement zombies who abuse the system, but also corporate welfare cronies who encourage government to keep the lush program in place. I read where over 90% of SNAP money goes to the 3 top US retailers and 6 largest processed food manufacturers - who ALL, incidentally, show up in the top 20 corporate doners to the DNC.
I read where over 90% of SNAP money goes to the 3 top US retailers and 6 largest processed food manufacturers
I don't quite get your point. Is it your assertion that if food stamps were cut off that people would quit buying their food?
I think the retailers would still garner the business. The food stamp people would simply use food banks, steal money, or shift some of their drug and entertainment dollars to food.
That's how the commies did it in the FsU and east Germany.
My buddy Andy had one of the best ideas I ever heard for welfare recipients.
In order for a recipient to be eligible for a welfare cheque, he/she would be required to report to a hall for eight a.m. They would have to sit in a chair from 8 to 10, then they'd get a 10 minute break. From 10:10 to noon, they'd be back in the chair. One hour lunch period, then back in the chair until 5 p.m. with a 10 min. break mid-afternoon. Repeat process 5 days a week as long as they want welfare.
So, you'd have to get up in the morning, no TV, no 'puter, no drug-dealing, no taking a taxi to the beer store at 10 a.m.
How do you ever expect to get these people to vote for you if you make free stuff tough to get and keep?
The objective is to buy their votes, not make them vote for someone else.
Regards. . . Barry
I have fond memories of the time I spent living in military barracks. And in Canada at least (though maybe not in the US, as I have spent some time in barracks down there), they are not what they were like during WW11.
Very true, minuteman, and very good food too. Back in the late 70s when I joined, several guys in my platoon had been given the option of jail or boot camp. No community service options in those days.
Nonetheless the clever and satirical solution presented here is clearly not possible, for obvious reasons. I think one of the omissions media types make is assuming welfare income represent 100% of clients "earnings." Under the table and illegal commerce abound I'm sure.
The fact is welfare is a trap. It used to be we were entitled to a hand up, not a hand out (thanks Bill Gairdner). Now it's become intergenerationally institutionalized.
My point Doowleb, supports what the man postulates in the article, the system is needed and used primarily by elderly, infirm and dependent children, however the money goes to retailers who primarily sell processed, ready to serve foods - this is expensive and primarily not all that nutritional. It is hawked by the big chain retailers like Walmart, Kroeger, super-valu because they buy in discounted bulk for national warehouses and the spoilage is minimal with good shelf life -large buy discounts and shelf life = wide profit margin - no money in fresh foods for the biggies because it's a pain to source, warehouse, transport and sell before expiry - local small quantity buys and spoilage = small margins.
Fresh and whole food is what should be covered on SNAP - bread, produce, hamburg, beans, rice, dairy flour sugar etc. If food stamp users want lasagna or cup cakes or beef stew they should be willing to make it from scratch. It is interesting to note that these same food processors and and large retailers are among the largest pro SNAP lobbies in DC.
My point is the SNAP system is needed but abused at both ends and there is little incentive to change the type of foods covered to reduce cost and supply proper nutrition to those who need it.
Doowleb >
“I don't quite get your point”
Goggle - Profits from Poverty
Then open the PDF provided by the Government Accountability Institute
g-a-i.org/wp-content/.../10/GAI-Report-ProfitsfromPoverty-FINAL.pdf
The poverty industry serves much of Corporate America and Government America on many levels; it readily serves the Democrats and their “Liberal” left wing base as a voting plantation including an easily accessible weapon of fear as you have already laid out in your comment above.
Between the poverty, penal, security and arms Industries, the US has defined its future as a fascist police state.
Occam, I never thought of "upper" end abuse, but can certainly see that being the case. How ever there is another element that encourages welfare status quo, and that is churches. In a recent article about the shut down and GOP wanting to trim some "entitlement" programs, 8 different religious orgs. opposed the GOP position, they are, and I'v said so many times, just as bad as the lefties on this file.
and on a personal note, back in 61 or 62 my father collected welfare for about 3 months in the winter, after he got laid off. He would take a shovel ad go out and shovel driveways and side walks for extra cash, some ppl paid, some didn't, but my father felt productive in doing something, rather than sit on his ass at home watching idiot box.
While there is no shortage of ideas on solutions, the goal at the end of the day, for those fit to work, should be to make a job at MacDonalds preferable to welfare.
Personally, I would like to see them (particularly the welfare Queens) farmed-out to Hutterite colonies.
I'd settle for welfare recipients not voting. That alone would be a tectonic shift in modern life.
Between that and ending public sector unions, half the work of cleaning up our over-governance problem would be done.
Just imagine the number of jobs that would come from those two little changes. It'd be like Christmas!
The best part of the article is denying the vote to welfare recipients. This is easily doable in the US as prisoners there don't have the right to vote in presidential and other elections. This one step alone would be enough to destroy the dumbocrats.
However, with so many RINO's around, don't look to them to come up with something that makes this much sense. Getting people on welfare to work is also a good idea but then one would have unions complaining that they're being undercut by "slave labor". Probably the best thing is to make those on welfare do the jobs that Americans won't do. It would have to be a job that would be hard to mess up although making a connection between how well one performs at ones job and whether one gets to eat that night would do a lot towards making these individuals understand the concept of responsibility.
The Phantom >
.......along with prisoners, and those that cannot provide proof of identification.
I'd require all government cheques to be picked up at a post office with I.D.. I think half the people on government programs don't even live in this country.
Oh, yeah! The Hutterites do know how to work, and each colony member has a specific job and is trained to do it well. As a kid, I went many times with my parents and siblings to visit a Hutterite colony near my home town in Saskatchewan. (My father was well respected as a businessman and knew the male elders well.) I remember being handed a raw corn cob to gnaw on, which was not to my taste, but I was really impressed with their kitchen and its aromatic baked goods. No member of the colony other than small children would get away with not contributing.
Gatesville man surprised letter to the editor is an Internet phenomenon
A Central Texas man whose pointed prose about government assistance programs made him an Internet folk hero says he is surprised but delighted his words continue to reverberate in cyberspace.
Alfred W. Evans of Gatesville said he expected his “put me in charge” letter to the editor printed in the Tribune-Herald on Nov. 18, 2010, to resonate with others fed up with welfare abuse. But he never expected it to be emailed across the country, much less become such a phenomenon people would add in their own passages, make up a new identity for the author and even satirize it.
Perhaps the most unexpected development, Evans said, was when be began receiving money in the mail from people wanting him to run for office.
http://www.wacotrib.com/news/gatesville-man-surprised-letter-to-the-editor-is-an-internet/article_9d71fc0d-fc4a-58ac-a6e2-3bab28612253.html?mode=print
An essential problem is that most welfare recipients have the vote.
I won't give names or locations, but one of my sisters-in-law is the postmaster in a large village in Ontario near the border with the US.There are Americans that have a post office boxes and only come once a month to pick up their Canadian welfare cheque. She is not allowed by Canada Post to inform on them.
"...An essential problem is that most welfare recipients have the vote..."
True. Not too many of them exercise that duty in this area, but it's probably a different story in urban centres.
But the real drain that our welfare systems exert on the tax coffers is paying the salaries of the legions of social workers, counsellors, lawyers and other "experts" who derive all or part of their income from the welfare industry...and it is certainly an industry.
I would venture a guess that three quarters of every welfare dollar goes in this direction, so there is absolutely no incentive for anyone to do a house-cleaning.
As a Libertarian I'm somewhat perplexed by some comments in this thread.
There's a difference between the truly unfortunate and those who are indolent by personal choice. We can't paint them all with same brush - that would be the easy way out. Already tried and found wanting. I don't mind looking after the needy 10% at all. But I am against the "takers" riding the wagon while I'm in the harness pulling it.
Agreed - the welfare/victim/grievance industries, like any other bureaucracies are self serving. Their primary mission is self-preservation - certainly not to fix anything - but rather to prolong or exacerbate existing problems and create others.
Whatever it takes to prevent their sun from setting.
The poor and disadvantaged are just fodder for the industry.
Sorry but thet whole post is pissing in the wind. If the people don't kkep their houses clean, are you going to let them freeze? If they get tats and do drugs will you refuse to treat them for cancer? If they trade their rice and beans for ho hos will you let them stave? The answer to those questions would be no. That applies whether you are asking politicians or your regular citizen.
Why not make paying income tax the reward for a vote. For example pay $1,000 a year in income tax you get a vote, $2,000 for a couple. This could easily be extended. Pay $10,000 a year in tax get 2 votes.
@john s: "Pissing in the wind".... correct but too soft. A sound condemnation is in order. This guy is simply saying "We know what will bring you around to our way and if it doesn't, we'll beat you again until it does." There are no "jobs" for these people. Automation and changes in industry and agriculture have made them unnecessary and obsolete. Without welfare there will be anarchy and revolution. The only good point made was about birth control. That in fact is the heart and soul of the welfare machine.
Welfare is a classic demonstration of corruption by Government.
The need is local, the old system of local charities giving help to the needy worked well.
Local funds,local accountability, censor of freeloaders by locals.
Now government departments exist to cater to their clients.
The need is still local but the money is despatched from a far, through many "helping hands" with no accountability and all with a vested interest in more cliental .
There is no one in government with any interest in keeping taxpayers off of welfare rolls.Nor in protecting public funds.
The canadian federal system penalizes welfare recipients who dare to get a job.
The number one punishment, the cut off of all benefits before they get even one pay check.
The amount paid is unimportant. The advantage of a flat tax system is that everyone pays something. Representation without taxation is at least as bad as taxation without representation.
Related:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2469954/Boss-offered-job-vacancies-brands-unemployed-lazy-applies-roles.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2470005/On-Benefits-Proud-mother-Heather-Frost-questioned-filmed-paying-stolen-goods.html
Even making an allowance for Daily Mail spin, it's all pretty amazing.
I hate entitlements as much as the next guy, but these solutions are naive,simplistic, misdirected and outright dangerous. His no job no vote solution ranks right up there in the annals of stupid and is petty and vindictive. Instead of attacking the poor, why not the enablers in government who make it all possible. The poor much like anyone else will gauge a system. If it is available people will take advantage of it. This behaviour is unlike one that a corporation would make when it makes decisions that will reduce its tax liabilities payable to the people (ie Government). Sending billions to the Cayman Islands or Bermuda and calling it a direct investment in that country is obviously tax avoidance as there is nothing on these islands to invest in. These billions by the way that are sent oversees from Canadian companies to avoid paying Canadian tax amount to 4 times more then the cost of welfare. Welfare costs in Canada amount to roughly 24 to 30 billion, direct investment by Canadian corporations in shitty little islands that produce nothing amounted to 127 billion in 2011. Put me in charge and I will ensure the stupid emanating from some on the right never sees the light of day to embarrass the rest of us.
I'd vote you you.
What's with the NPD talking points masquerading as "conservative" thought? Defending the dignity of welfare recipients while exposing a lack of understanding of corporate tax incentives doesn't display anything but what you accused others of. Corporations don't pay taxes. Their customers, employees and or shareholders pay corporate taxes or the corporation isn't profitable and goes out of business.
Wealth doesn't belong to the state to be redistributed to voting blocks, it's the property of those who create it. For someone professing to "hate entitlements", when it comes to overseas corporate tax avoidance you sound like someone who thinks others are "entitled" to it.
The simplest way to repatriate that wealth is to eliminate corporate income tax. The inflow from other tax jurisdictions would more than compensate for the net loss of government revenue as well as the growth from increased employment. In the short term, thousands of bureaucrats, lawyers and accountants would have to find productive employment.
No mention yet of the cost to hire the hundreds of thousands of additional government employees that this wild fantasy would require? Or are we all big government conservatives here?
There's probably a place for government regulation in welfare. I'd say the policy should be to make it hard to get and impossible to live on.