"Organic" Is The Latin Word For "Grown In Pig Shit"

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Another scam almost on the scale of AGW.

When I go to safeway, or sobers, I always ask the clerk where are the in-organic carrots.. They always look at me dumbfounded, not understanding.

All carrots regardless of how they are grown are organic.

Marketing has tried to re-define the word organic... When they ask what do I mean I always tell them look up organic in the dictionary.

I also recall about 11 people dying on the west coast of the US a couple of years back from tainted organic lettuce.

We do not buy organic and will go to another store if there is not an in-organic choice in a certain item.

Ken ... That happens with regular produce ... the farm operator was irrigating and washing with tainted water. The lettuce also was shipped across north America.

Perhaps someone could brand products "No Sh!t" .... ?

Difference between an Organic farmer and a regular farmer?

A ponytail.

In Germany, 40 people died and 3900 on dialysis for life. In B.C. approx. 11 people die and yet not one person died when BSE was found in Alberta in 2003 which desimated our cattle industry for a decade. Last year, a few people from one restaurant got sick from beef that wasn't confirmed to have come from a major Alberta slaughter facility and yet it was shut down for months again kicking the cattle idustry down as we were finally starting to recover. Where is the media outcry of these deaths when they basically pushed the latter events for so long.

We hold a value in our house about not being raped, so we steer clear of the "organic" products.

If you can get past this video being on CBC, it's funny and shows the idiocy of organic and green labeling. It's from the show "This is That". Canadian Hardware Goes 100% Organic

"organic" is an excuse that describes people that are to F%^* lazy to do anything about weed infested fields and crops...

Ken sums it up totally at 10:53 am.

You're right, it's not fair that all you folks are forced to buy organic foods. Shouldn't you have the free choice to choose what you shove in your pie hole?

Mischa Popoff had the best advice when he said buy directly from the farmer. In most cases, with any product, this makes sense -- eliminate the middle man. Also, visit the farm if you don't trust the vendor.

I was in the lineup at street vendor selling fruit out of his trailer in a small remote BC town this summer. He had free samples of locally picked plums that were delicious. The other fruit was still in the supermarket-like boxes. They looked impeccable -- clearly not as local. The nutbar in front of me was insisting she only bought "Organic" and the vendor accommodated her confirming his merchandise was indeed organic. Her name was probably Julia. She preened and pranced so happy with her progressiveness -- I wanted to lecture but held my tongue.

When she left the guy said something to the effect of "'organic', what'd she think they were -- plastic?". I confirmed that he thought the bulk of his fruit was BC grown but he had purchased it out of a supermarket that had not declared it officially Organic. His use of the generic definition of the term organic didn't bother me as he provided the marketing service of place. He was the only place in town selling fruit. The plums, he'd picked himself, were excellent the other fruit was the typically woody stuff you get now in most super markets.

The Organa Scam Industry is the result of the bureaucratisation of the word organic. The power of Big Government!

Pig shit? You should be so lucky. Try food grown the Chinese way. That's
why the Chinese cook everything, and drink boiled water.

Don't be a namby-pamby, man up and eat yer pesticides and herbicides, they're good for the economy. Don't eat organic food, studies have clearly shown that organics contain significantly less pesticide residue, and yer not going to get your daily quota of ag-chemicals that way.

Try food grown the Chinese way.

You do every time you eat something from China. Ninety percent of their water is polluted by our standards.

Organic food production is not a scam and is an attempt to produce nutritionally superior natural foods with Organic processes which involve using heritage agri spices or naturally cross bred hybrids and raising it in the absence of chemical processes or other toxins. Yes it may be grown in poop - that process fed thousands of human generatios - perhaps it is wise to heed what those generations said about washing produce and cooking it thoroughly. The problem with inorganic food is you can't wash or cook the toxins out of it. Unlike bacterial contamination which can effect all food orgnic or inorganic/GMO the toxinf imbedded in inorganically grown food is cumulative resulting in long term slow damage instead of an abrupt sickness from bacter infection.

The certification requirements for organic food IS stringent but the system for ensuring compliance is the same as the ISO-9000 quality certification for businesses - having the business you deal with ISO certified quality is no guarantee you are getting a quality product - unless that business is meticulously audited for compliance - it's a matter of audit scope and frequency for compliance. ike the ISO quality system the organic certification allows a consumer or auditor to trace back the item purchased to its source, process and verify it complies with organic food standards. Loose oversight by the certification regulatory body results in producers cutting corners or cheating. Certification for organic food is no different.

I have been eating only organic food for 3 decades and have found the certification system to be lacking - I get around that error factor by buying from local producers I know or can verify are growing organic produce, meat and dairy - then stick to fresh food rather than processed. Most of the scamming under an "organic certification" label has come from makers of processed foods.

Farm fresh foods are good for ya and the local economy as well as the small producer. The further away you import your produce from the better the chance is it's inferior grade or is dosed with pesticides parasites and other toxins ecause standards there are lower than local. Eg: - Mexico and southern US field produce is far inferior to our own local hot house produce.

Gee, Occam, you should go on Sun News and debate Mischa Popoff.
Really. The invitation seemed to be quite open to anyone.

Short form use:
organic food consumer

Long form use:
organic food consumer - paranoid gullible narcissist with plenty of self esteem and money
....................................... - fully convinced his vegan stench farts are signs of perfect health

"Organic" foods use pesticide, it's simply pesticide that is itself organic in nature. However, 1) no one realistically claims that this crap is any better or worse for human consumption than man-made pesticides, and 2) neither the FDA nor the EPA nor the Dept of Ag limit or require organic framers to report how much organic pesticide they use.

So, enjoy your organic avacado, it could contain a lot more stuff that is bad for you than time and again proven safe levels on chemically treated foods. We'll be sure to put a organic label on your tombstone.

"Organic" and "green"..... two terms that set my teeth on edge. Both are meaningless and are being applied to things in ridiculous ways. For example, someone made a meaningless comment the other day and her companion replied "That's organic". How's that for an affirmation??

The scare mongers (aka alarmists) have introduced into the general public an uneasiness about just about everything that modern society is and modern technology has produced. Brain cancer from cell phones and electrical lines, genetically altered foods, global warming (and all that is related to it), water pollution, pesticides/herbicides in the food supply, nuclear meltdown, and on and on. It's not that these things are unimportant but rather we lack the ability to get a proper perspective of the relative dangers they present.

The happiest people I know are those who do not read/listen to the news. I suspect they will also live the longest.
...........Continual low level stress is very damaging to organic beings.....

Person A) bought only "organic" food since the fad was hoisted on the people by media and others. He/she has spent a small fortune for nothing as it is about twice the cost for no benefit. Also, he/she has possibly ingested the most dangerous of naturally occurring compounds (ecoli, fusarium, ergot ect)and so Person A has risked his/her health as others have cited above.

Person B) made a small fortune by buying organic food also but they chose food not labeled organic. It is organic just the same and about half the price. Person B has not risked his/her heath as stats clearly show 'pig shit food' (PSF)is much much more dangerous than non PSF.

PSFs has caused many (documented)deaths and severe health issues.
GMOs have not cause even so much as a (documented)stomach ache.

Conclusion: Many people do not believe science, mathematics or track record. Many people believe what they want to believe.
Their belief strength is a function of how much money/effort their belief/religion/alarmism/hang-up has cost them in their life time.

Piggy-poo isn't anywhere near as dangerous as sewage sludge from municipal lagoons that has been applied to crop producing land.
Most cities still have some sort of industrial base and waste from industry has some nasty heavy metals suspended within.

Well said, as were the comments of Chris, Ron, and The Glengarrian.

The EPA is not exactly farmer friendly and it recently published a report saying the pesticides, etc were just as prevalent in organic as in non-organic food.

If people choose to believe that so called organic is better so be it, but don't ram it down the throats of the rest of us.

I have been eating only organic food for 3 decades and have found the certification system to be lacking - I get around that error factor by buying from local producers I know or can verify are growing organic produce, meat and dairy - then stick to fresh food rather than processed. Most of the scamming under an "organic certification" label has come from makers of processed foods.

Farm fresh foods are good for ya and the local economy as well as the small producer. The further away you import your produce from the better the chance is it's inferior grade or is dosed with pesticides parasites and other toxins ecause standards there are lower than local. Eg: - Mexico and southern US field produce is far inferior to our own local hot house produce.
Posted by: Occam

Well said Occam. My experience is similar and I agree with your comments.

The people who don't like organic food don't have to eat it. Nobody I know cares to "ram it down the throats" of the junk food eaters. They're the first people who always want free choice, and their desire to limit the food choices of others is just hypocrisy.

Go ahead and eat more toxic junk food; those of us who eat organic don't care what others choose to shove in their pie hole. Learn to be equally tolerant.

I make a point of not buying anything labelled as "organic" in a grocery store. Then, I tend to be primarily a carnivore and could easily live on a diet of nothing but steak. What does piss me off is that I have a hard time getting free range beef as it seems that loading up the beef with unwanted fat seems to be the way that the food industry works. Fresh buffalo is essentially impossible to get and I'm resigned to buying it already frozen.

Free range beef has a high level of omega-3 fatty acids but I've been told that some people find the yellow fat of such animals objectionable. I like it as it's loaded with carotene. There's less overall fat and, when I need to add more I use olive oil. Same holds for free range chicken.

As far as pesticides go, the amounts present in foods are miniscule. The problem with modern chemical analytic techniques is that they can readily measure concentrations of chemicals in parts/billion or trillion. When something is present in that tiny a concentration, I don't worry as it's in the range of potentially beneficial effects via hormesis. Also, humans have a wide variety of cytochrome P450 enzymes whose primary role is the processing of small foreign molecules for excretion from the body. Sometimes these enzymes make a non-toxic molecule a lot more toxic, but there are way more potential natural toxins around than synthetic ones.

Another area which is totally ignored by those terrified of toxins is the role of the bowel's microbial flora in production of massive amounts of toxic chemicals. Fortunately, blood drains from the bowel via the portal vein which takes it straight to the liver where most of these bacterial toxins are broken down. If "organic" food is often contaminated with E. Coli, then it is likely contaminated even more frequently with numerous other bacteria that may not be as immediately nephrotoxic as E. Coli O157, but their effects on human health are unknown. Given the incredible promiscuity of bacteria, they're constantly exchanging DNA in the gut and doing so on a scale that would likely drive those opposed to genetic engineering to consume industrial quantities of antibiotics to stop the natural DNA sharing that bacteria engage in.

In short, we have no idea about what is the best diet for a given person. That depends on the persons genetics, the unique set of P450 enzymes they possess, their unique gut flora (sufficiently unique that one could probably use a piece of shit to uniquely identify an individual based on their microbial ecology but for some reason not very popular in forensic circles), and the genes that determine how much inflammation or immune system activation occurs from the ingestion of various xenobiotics.

My personal approach to this is to avoid ingesting Arsenic, organic mercurials and organic lead compounds. I also avoid any peanuts with the "organic" label but am more or less omnivorous otherwise. If a food doesn't agree with me, I don't eat it. I eat a lot more salt in the summer and can't tolerate canned food in the winter. And, most importantly, I make sure to keep fit as a 700 lb "organic" food fetishist is hardly the picture of health.

If "organic" food is often contaminated with E. Coli,

That's a big "If" because the facts show that organic food is not often contaminated with E. Coli or other harmful bacteria.

As with most media induced paranoia, you only hear about the bad news, and never that millions are consuming the products with no ill effects.

Hear, hear. Genetically modified foods contain microorganism resistant DNA from certain insects, reptiles, and animals along with pesticide resistant proteins. Unfortunately, a very serious unintended consequence is occurring which few are aware of.

The genetically engineered resistant microorganism and pesticide proteins remain in the soil, and any new bacteria that come in contact with this DNA during irrigation and in the soil cause the same gram negative armor resistance in previously treatable bacterial strains- making all these bacteria resistant to any and all antibiotics; resulting in human super infections such as NDM-1 and KPC which we are virtually defenseless against now. STI's are also becoming gram negative armor resistant.

These pesticide resistant proteins and the gram negative bacterias live in our stomachs and intestines from ingesting certain GMO foods where they do much damage over time, and make our bodies and others resistant to antibiotics. Some people are simply carriers who pass any bacteria (encased in resistance) on to others who become very ill and many die.

It's not antibiotic resistance due to bacterial mutation that is rendering bacteria resistant, it's the DNA engineered microorganism resistance that acts like super armor, that we're consuming through genetically modified seeds and foods that attach this super armor to all bacteria it comes into contact with, this is what's making antibiotics ineffective. What's happened is the bacteria becomes encased in gram negative armour which even the most potent antibiotics cannot break through to attack the bacteria encased inside this "resistance" armor.

Humans lived since the beginning of time on organic food, with no choice in the matter until very recently..They didn't live very long. Famine and malnutrition always a possibility..Cemeteries full of baby graves..Be careful what you wish for..

Modern antibiotics indiscriminately kill all bacteria - whether good or bad. So-called probiotics may help, but no guarantees. Not to offend anyone, but the lack of "good" gut flora is now being treated by some practioners with fecal transplants. Bizarre.

I'll tell ya a lttle story...about the most vile, putried thing on earth. Tractor trailer loads of diapers...not baby diapers but adult diapers from hospitals and nursing homes going for composting and to be returned to the ground as fertilizer.
That's urine and feces from people sick with lord-knows-what and being treated with a whole toxic soup of medicine, passing through kidneys and bowels, loaded into those trailer loads of "green" material.
Thanks but no thanks on foodstuffs grown in that...I'll take all-natural Sask. potash, mined from the ground, and sold as commercial fertilizer, any day

Ew-that is bizarre and gross.

It's true that antibiotics indiscriminately kill all bacteria. What's being suggested as an alternative to antibiotic treatment is to make human DNA resistant, the same way seeds and food are being genetically engineered to be resistant to microorganisms and bacteria.

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