Now Is The Time At SDA When We Celebrate Naturopathic Medicine Week

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Interesting story about "traditional" Chinese medicine. Vancouver moonbats were convinced of the effectiveness of this fraud and, typically, the more they were defrauded by the scam artists of "traditional" Chinese medicine, the more effective they perceived these treatments to be.

I seriously thought of getting some money out of this scam but, unfortunately from a personal financial viewpoint, I have a strong need to tell people the truth. Thus, I ended up losing many patients when I told them that the miracle cures they were getting from "traditional" Chinese medicine were all in their head and, if they wanted to feel even better, they should give me what remaining funds they still had in their bank accounts. As expected, there was nothing "miraculous" about the "cures" these patients experienced and they were just a well known scam utilizing the placebo effect. For some reason, patients seem to be disinclined to sue such "traditional" practitioners of "medicine", but far more likely to sue western physicians possibly because practitioners of western medicine carry malpractice insurance.

Given the shortage of physicians in the US, I suspect that primary care for a large fraction of the US population will be provided by a witch doctor wearing Ho Chi Minh sandals and using as the sole source of medical knowledge the little red book of Chairman Mao. Given that this population used to receive medical care from interns and residents at various US hospitals prior to the imposition of Obozocare, one can rationalize that this is the type of "medical" care that they deserve. After all, some people do survive the ministrations of witch doctors.

Seems that this scam is as great as L. Ron Hubbard's invention of the "religion" of scientology to win a bet with another SF writer.

Once more, where to begin? PT Barnum principle at work, again.
When I worked as a GP I had all sorts of people rolling in with "natural" medicines they'd been given by "a friend". One person was raving about the value of "Chinese Blackballs" brought up from Mexico and how bad she felt when she stopped them. Given that they turned out to be a combination of valium and naprosyn, it was no wonder!
There are some things in Chinese herbs that can be effective e.g. asa from yew bark, but the quality control is non-existent and since people have no clue what they're taking can produce side effects with no clue where they're coming from as with a lady who spent several days ventilated in ICU because she was a severe asthmatic who had been taking large doses of the asa in "traditional" Chinese medicine.
As for acupuncture, what is the "natural" analogue of acupuncture -- throw yourself on a cactus and wait to be struck by lightning? We had two medical professors visiting from China to learn more about western general anesthesia techniques. When I asked them about their use of acupuncture I just got looks that said, "Are you out of your mind?". Acupuncture can release endorphins to be sure, but the meridians etc are pure flim flam. And it doesn't replace general or regional anesthesia.

The article is a load of historical revisionist crapola. Naturopathy originated in North America long before Chinese communism even existed. The American School of Naturopathy graduated its first class in New York in 1902. And naturopathy was established in Canada by 1920, again long before Mao and his little red book of lots more rubbish. Naturopathy originated as a theory, "the healing power of nature", more than 2400 years ago with the ancient Greeks. And in various forms, it's been around ever since. The beginnings of western medical insanity was remarked on as early as 1841 by Charles McKay in his outstanding book "Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds."

There were a host of medical quackeries that originated in Europe in the 19th C, all of them in reaction to the growing development of modern medical science and the germ theory of disease. These included osteopathy, homeopathy and chropractic. Even to this day, the Queen's physician is a homeopath. Some of them like mesmerism largely died out in the 19th C, but the big Quartet carried right along, joined by new medical dementia like Lysenkoism and Scientology.

Now, everybody go out and read Martin Garder's definitive work "Fads and Fallacies in the Name of Science". And we'll here no more of this medical historical revisionist rubbish from ignorant GenX political opinionators.

Want to see a moonbat's head explode from cognitive dissonance? Just ask "have you taken your ground rhino horn or elephant tusk pills today?"

Ancient Chinese secret?

Homeopath. Not that there is anything wrong with it.
The old chairman lasted a long time as he used to sleep with assigned nubiles every night. Despite never brushing his teeth and having halitosis that could knock a buzzard off a $hitwagon

Witch doctor nominations. I nominate Al Gore, as he has a lot of experience selling snake oil.

Seriously though, I found the comments on this thread to this point and the one above discussing the heart fascinating for the knowledge that many here have.

Osteopathy, homeopathy, chiropractic, natural food movement, and all that naturalistic junk will never fade or fall away. There's been many throughout history; Napoleon, Thomas Edison, just to name a couple of huge believers. Mankind is always searching for that state of grace when he was more in tune with his so-called natural element. The human condition seems to consist of a constant struggle of opposing forces. Do we accept logic and science or do we continue our quest 'to get back to the garden'.

A good read until the last paragraph, when the writer goes off on "climate-change deniers". Funny how his critical thinking capabilities get turned off and on at will.

Give him his due, Mao was "the greatest drug-addiction therapist in history".

http://bigtent.blogspot.ca/2006/05/dalrymple-on-heroin-addiction.html

Er, yes.

The gospel according to Hap Shaughnessy says that all this homeo stuff was indeed the invention of Ho Chi Minh and Mao Tse-tung.

Matter of fact, it was originally known as Ho-Mao-Pa-Thet in honour of the two founders. Pa-thet is a corruption of an ancient sino-vietnamese phrase that means 'nothing there'.

Thank you for reminding us that history did not begin a mere 100 years ago. There is nothing new under the sun. The study of the ancients and lessons to be learned thereof used to be called a 'liberal education'. Such a thing does't seem to exist anymore.

In a related and horrifying note: many traditional medicines prescribed inside of China test positive for antibiotics. Manufacturers are dusting their products with a grab-bag of pharmaceuticals to make them more effective (i.e. have any effect at all). So if you take some traditional Chinese medicine, not only will the dosage be entirely random, the quality be unknown, the expirary date a mystery, the interactions with other drugs you may be taking a surprise, and even if they do have an effect it will be to produce anti-biotic resistance in whatever ails you.

so south of the border, it will go from "which doctor" to "witch doctor", both effectively meaning no doctor:-)))

Homeopathy is actually well proven, and during the Great Flu epidemic of 1918 had a much better cure rate than 'normal' medicine. It continues to pass double and triple blind tests.
The Queen Mother used homeopathic medicine and she lived to over 100, and she (and the Queen herself) are not likely to be easily taken in.
And as for acupuncture - if it didn't work, why is it still around after 5,000 years?
Natural medicines track record in comparison to that of allopathic medicine is actually pretty good.

"...Homeopathy is actually well proven..."

Well, you sure got that part right.

"The Queen Mother used homeopathic medicine and she lived to over 100"

She also drank gin like a fish drinks water.

"Homeopathy is actually well proven, and during the Great Flu epidemic of 1918 had a much better cure rate than 'normal' medicine. It continues to pass double and triple blind tests."

Since the theory of homeopathy is based on a science myth of "water memory", it's pure hokum. And just what blind tests would these be? The same ones that some chiropractors use to claim that vaccination is of no effect?

"And as for acupuncture - if it didn't work, why is it still around after 5,000 years?"

Lots of things are still around after 5000 years, most of them bad and many of them playing on human gullibility for con artists. Astrology's still around after 5000 years, but do we really need to go there?

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