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Guaranteed Baby Turdoh will campaign on that next election.
Anything to go channel his inner girly voter.
This poll is designed to be confusing. Typical.
We need a national "clear graph" designing program in Canada.
I know, because I work with one, that substantial daycare provider corporations won't open in PQ because they can't compete with what the PQ government charges or because that is now what consumers in PQ think it should cost and won't pay more. Result: giant waiting lists for daycare in PQ.
let's replicate that across the country! brilliant! /sarc
This poll is designed to give the answer that only a leftist rag could want.
Done, and sent to my non-NDP children.
Told them that it sounds much like something national socialists would do.
See if they get the drift.
Those sort are not really bothered so much by what the Nationalist Socialists did, as by the fact that it was the National Socialists who got to do it.
Is the Globe & Mail now Justin's personal polling company?
Remember when the canadian senator termed canadian parents, "minders" as opposed to "professionals" in the national daycare program that was being banded about in the last couple of Liberal governments... even my completely liberal parents winced at that comment.
I wouldn't support a national daycare program if given the choice, somehow I doubt I'll be given that choice someday when the Liberals return to power. (or the NDP gain federal power). Any more than I expect to choose my health care provider outside of the government mandated government system.
As parents of 5 kids in Regina, SK, we often (every week for awhile..) worked the late bingos in order to help offset the monetary costs of this. When we moved to Calgary in 1996, we continued to help fund the daycare we chose by working the bingos. I never viewed it as a burden, any more than I view having children as a burden. It was the best choice I've ever made.
As for the affordability being either a crunch or fairly priced, Let me just say that confiscatory government taxation is already my greatest expense. It's the greatest crunch I can imagine already, without the added federal civil servants. I'd prefer to see gov't workers starve to death than pay an extra nickel, including the ones already on the dole in the Quebec run system that's for the most part dependent on the rest of Canada paying for their slothful ways.
Ahh yes, the age old, taxpayer-funded, national daycare wet dream of every statist. It keeps coming back like spring dandelions.
You want kids, and you need daycare, pay for it your bloody self!!
Besides which, after having three kids of my own, and having seen quite a bit of life and friends and their kids, I can state that it is a FACT that daycare raised kids are more ill-behaved, more out of control, and are less successful in life than those kids who had a home and a parent to look after them when they were little critters.
I am not saying there are not exceptions to this - I have seen some myself - but on average daycare is a negative.
As of 11:06 P.M. Poll results summary:
Age group: All ages
Location: All locations
Gender: Both genders [they're going to be in trouble for that!]
A financial burden 39%
Fairly priced 23%
Neutral 38%
Pro national program 43%
Anti national program 55%
Neutral: 2%
'Looks like Canadians have the pro-national daycare program socialists' and feminists' number. Good job, SDAers!
And a related item about pre-kindergarten not helping with IQ, learning etc.
http://www.investorvillage.com/smbd.asp?mb=2234&mn=500241&pt=msg&mid=13211910
If I recall correctly, the first government program that disappeared when the Soviet Union collapsed was government daycare. Single payer healthcare, no longer single payer, if you can afford it you can see a doctor on the side. Doctor's and teacher's regular government pay cheque is very poor.
No doubt the statists will get it right next time.
My daughter is 2 years old. She can count to 15 and can sing the entire alphabet. She recognizes and can name all numbers from 1 through 9 and most letters in the alphabet because we use foam letters and numbers to teach her. She speaks mostly in sentences and has quite good speech for her age because we TALK and READ to her all the time. I'm sure if we had her in government daycare she wouldn't be as bright since she would be watched by unionized leftist trash who would rather text on their Iphones than actually teach the children anything useful in the real world. F**K national daycare! It will be run by the same human garbage that screwed up our education system by ceasing to teach and instead prefer to indoctrinate our kids with leftist BS.
Wonder why they don't show the comments?
Looked at the breakdown of support for statist indoctrination of children and it seems that females are much more in favor of this policy. Most men (except for the girly men of Vancouver) are opposed.
Rather than having a national daycare program, it's time to have a discussion of why both parents have to work to make ends meet. Kids do far better when one parent stays home and raises them. There was a time when only one of the parents had to work in order to provide for the family but now, with the growth of government, a family can't survive unless both parents work. That's the issue here, not whether we need another statist program to provide employment for leftist trash.
Daycare is just another way of indoctrinating kids starting very early in life. My mother stayed home to raise the kids and we also had considerable freedom to do as we wanted. There were no organized activities for us and, as a result, we quickly became self-reliant. Now I look at kids who are put in daycare where they're restricted in what they can do. When it comes time for them to go to school, they're not allowed to walk to and from school but are transported by their parents or buses. All of their free time is taken up with various organized activities and they have no time to do what they want to do. We're creating a nation of people who are terrified of being alone and, once the state intervenes in childrens lives from a very early age, one gets a population of docile sheeple who have absolutely no drive.
Whatever happened to people sharing taking care of their kids in a house where there is essentially no cost as it's basically a rotating babysitting service? Probably the state views this type of "unregulated" day care as subversive.
ok, is the top left the max or is the bottom right the max? what a load of hooey.
They’ll be shocked to see any opposition as the rag has been designed for a Leftist audience only.
When they do a poll they expect 99.9% compliance, and then sell it as "The will of the Canadians".
Loki >
“…..but now, with the growth of government, a family can't survive unless both parents work. That's the issue here, not whether we need another statist program to provide employment for leftist trash.”
There it is in a nutshell!
This started with the corporate/ government funding of the feminist movement, a marriage made in hell.
"What Gloria Steinem, Henry Kissinger Have in Common: CIA Pay"
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=a1M9EAly2hog
You're right about the folks who will be looking after kids if there ever is a national daycare program.
When I was young (and foolish -- and had a boyfriend who liked to drink cheap beer in the bar every night), I spent a lot of time in the bar with women who worked in daycares. Almost to a one, they were radical feminists and single moms ('wonder who was watching their kids while they drank till all hours?). You'd better believe they were indoctrinating their charges to the Leftard way of thinking.
Daycares are warehouses for children. 'Not recommended unless the goal is to indoctrinate wee ones to the lib-Left. They get no personal attention and end up being peer-oriented, which is a disaster for their ability to relate to anyone who is not in their age group. We're seeing a lot of these kids in our classrooms. Peer orientation is a handicap.
'Crazy thing about this poll when you look at it from the point of view of most young people: Almost overwhelmingly, they say that a national daycare program will be a financial burden, but when asked if they're pro a national daycare program, the majority of them are in favour of one.
Disconnect much?
Yeah, a national daycare program will be a financial burden but we're for it because, obviously, someone else will have to pay for it. I guess the "someone else" will be "the government" which, obviously, doesn't include them.
Low-information voters -- the people who will "take care" (sic) of my generation when we're in our dotage. Help!
A helpful hint, using Firefox - if you right click on the SDA link to the poll and choose "Open in New Private Window" you can vote repeatedly.
"Daycare is just another way of indoctrinating kids starting very early in life." This is the unspoken plan.
Loki, very well said.
VIOLA!
Hover over the dots on the graph and the comments appear.
Yay! and we can get the people who did up the Obamacare website to run this new bureaucracy! Yippeee! Fun all around!
My comment: "The family unit is the basis for our society. Anything that weakens it or devolves parental authority and responsibility weakens our society."
Pure silliness on my part, of course. Evolution is for lesser beings, liberals/progressives think that they are above such petty concerns as societal evolution. Or devolution. Or extinction. It's the only way that "I feel better about myself if I do it this way" can beat "this will make me, and society, richer and that means a longer and happier life".
I thought Canucks just left their kids in the canoe while they're out trapping? (runs)
Kids that hunt, fish, and trap do not mug little old ladies. You don't have to run.The kids are out checking some trap lines also. Some of my gkids are out practicing their Biathlon today.
The Liberals have campaigned on this issue since Chretien's Red Book in 1993.
They never change.
And they always fail to understand why this issue has so little influence on the outcome of elections.
And the Lieberals, when they had a majority for 13 years, never implemented a national daycare program, despite all of their talk. Saying they were for it gave them cred with the radical feminists who were too stupid to see that the Librano$ had no intention of implementing such a program. The Librano$ played the NAC/SOW feminazis like a violin -- and got their votes.
The cost of a national daycare program would have wiped out all of the let's-pat-ourselves-on-the-back bonuses and perqs the Librano$ like to give themselves.
Now, the Leftards and their media lapdogs are bringing up the spectre of a national daycare program to try to embarrass the CPC. The CPC's smart enough to know that most Canadians don't want a national daycare program and they're fiscally astute enough to know that such a program would bankrupt the country -- with no positive benefits to Canada's kids.
Loki - excellent post.
Parenting is not a trivial undertaking - as I can attest. There's a fine line between raising free range kids as opposed to feral kids. Through it all we managed to instill critical thinking and healthy skepticism. Failure was their best teacher.
As of 9:20 EST Oct 21
A financial burden 46%
Fairly priced 20%
Neutral 35%
Pro national program 51%
Anti national program 47%
Neutral 2%
I see the comments opining that this is a stalking horse for the Federal Liberals. I disagree and think that it's a little more selectinve than that.
The Glob's new fixation is a stalking horse for the ONTARIO Liberals, and this is the trial balloon for their next big promise to get middle class Ontario to forget the gas plants and vote for them again.
Sigh. KKKKate's influence among the basement dwellers has dipped in a big way. You might want to revisit that poll darling.