We Will Never Forget

You going to volunteer to do the brick work?

Putting up buildings that don't fit with the rest of the neighbourhood is not exactly neighbourly.
The character and need of the inhabitant doesn't change that.
The charity should keep going until this family's home is in keeping with his neighbours.

Gee,doowleb. Never figured you for a NIMBY.
And agree 100%,Jay. It is a class/snob thing.Leftards pissed off they got a GOP rep.

I agree, it's not like the vet can't live in another community, one with pre-existing wood homes.

No disrespect to the vet, but the older community has a housing standard that existed before he came onto the scene.

Unlike Canada of course that will stick a welfare tower right in the middle of good communities, so that "everyone gets to mix".

er, forced to mix.

Gee,doowleb. Never figured you for a NIMBY.

Get off my lawn.

MOOSEMILK...excellent idea. Common dog f**k. But it would never fly.

You are thinking wrong. It is too much to ask that it be in keeping with the rest of the houses around it. If it is structurally sound and properly maintained it is no threat to your house. If you think it should also conform to your aesthetic sensibilities you deserve to have someone else come along and force you to conform to theirs. If you want to keep him out of your neighbourhood, put up your own cash to buy and own the lot.

The libertarian in me would accept that you may be correct.
It's not saying much about Habitat for Humanity or the veteran, that the neighbours concerns are of no concern to them.

To say your neighbour's property values and aesthetics are of no concern, says a lot about you however.

Get along with your neighbours Justthinkin?

Someone generous can volunteer to purchase the bricks and hire a bricklayer to do the extra work. Or maybe everyone in the neighbourhood could contribute to a fund? Problem solved.

1- NIMBY ... strictly speaking is usually a justified point of view. My back yard is MY backyard. If I don't like something being shoved into my neighbourhood ... I'll do something about it. Been there and done that.

Dude, your backyard and your neighbourhood are two different things. The former, in which you enjoy property rights, is much smaller than the latter.

Doowleb is demonstrating the mindset that makes 300 yards the proper minimum distance between houses.

I lived in the snooty part of Ancaster. I had a rare and valuable project vehicle, a 1947 Ford COE truck parked in my very large, very invisible-from-the-road, GATED driveway. Lot sizes are big, yards are hedged. People used to slow down and gawk at my house, because it looked like Architectural Digest from the road.

I had the city inspector come to serve a complaint about me keeping "junk" in my driveway. He laughed when he saw the junk, told me who had complained and exactly what to do to evade the city regulations.
I built a very handsome shed. City inspector came around to serve a complaint. I got a minor variance, shed stayed. It the variance meeting
I got noise complaints when I worked on my truck at two in the afternoon.
I got noise complaints when I used the tablesaw in the garage. With the door shut.
One guy had a cow when I fired up the welder in the driveway. And by fired up I mean I made some sparks while welding.

The final touch was when the neighbourly folk called the cops on me because I tried to put up a fence. Not a ten foot prison fence, just a four foot snow fence. In -my- yard.

So I moved, rather than waste my liver cells fighting with the myriad @ssh0les who considered my property something that must be arranged to meet their aesthetic criteria, and my life something that must be lived for their convenience.

Now I do wheelies up and down my front lawn on loud two stroke motorcycles, I weld and cut in the driveway, I have lots of spare parts and truck frames and wood and vehicles parked about the place, I have outbuildings, I have the loudest weed cutter in the universe, and a lawnmower that weighs two ton and is run by diesel. When the neighbours come around its to get my help pulling their daughter's car out of the ditch, or weld up something that broke, or to see if I have a left handed monkey wrench.

My interactions with the city folk are limited to running them off my yard when they show up trespassing with orange vests and shotguns. Apparently city boys can't read signs that say "NO HUNTING".

My parting shot, doowleb, is that Ancaster USED TO BE THE SAME as where I live now. As kids we rode our bikes everywhere, the old man fixed his busted POS car in the driveway, as a teen I learned how to do wheelies in the front street. Every walking trail in Dundas and Ancaster that's considered holy conservation area ground by all the busy body yuppies and greenies who now infest the place started out as dirt bike trails, and no one EVER complained.

So really, you and the old broad in Morton with the petition need to come to grips with the concept of private property. It's MY LAND, not yours. I get to decide what goes on there, not you. If some guy buys the field next to my place and puts up some crazy looking yurt and starts raising goats, it's none of my f-ing business. Maybe you should mind yours, and spend less time worrying about "community aesthetics" and other BS that commie sh1t head yuppies use to push people around.

The Phantom >

I understand, and you are right, you also did the right thing by moving to where you were best accommodated and comfortable.

On the flipside, agreed people should have the freedom to do and live as they want as noisy neighbors with yards full of junk – BUT other people should have a right to live in a nice clean quite neighborhood if that’s what they want.

So it comes down to whose standards came first, the communities, or the individual moving into the community. In this case the community and its standards came before the vet and the Habitat for Humanity housing project.

They could build a frame house nearly anywhere else the country or fork out more for a brick house if the vet insists on living in this particular community.

The US is FULL of ghetto’s, run down old home areas, acreages, trailer parks and a plethora of other places for those who wish to make noise or have no living/ building standards.

People who wish to live in quite comfortable neighborhoods with building and yard standards should have that freedom of choice as well.

You got the part where I'm not the guy with the three rusty cars up on blocks and the yeller dawg lying in the dust in front of the sagging porch, right? Did you get the part where passers-by couldn't see into the yard due to trees and hedges? I had an impenetrable thicket around the place, that's why I bought it. Nice and private, right?

"Community standards" are an excuse for self important block captains and hateful busybodies to make everyone else's life miserable. Some of the f-s in my neighborhood made it a full time job, walked around with camera and clipboard like they were the manager. I have video. The guy down the street from me had a multi-million dollar house, he left in disgust because the stupid pr1cks kept complaining to the city about his -Ferrari-. Too noisy!

In fact, there's some utter retard in Ancaster who phones the cops to complain every time the Lancaster flies over town. I understand the cops told her to shove it after the fifth or sixth time. It was in the paper.

My revenge is complete, however. I sold the house to a Russian guy I'm pretty sure knows people in both high places and low ones. He put in a massive renovation, and had backhoes working every day for a year. Also he put up a BIG fence. Also he cut down all the holy and blessed trees so beloved by the neighbors and put in a pool. My hated shed is now his pool cabana, and they see it every freaking day.

The son of a beeotch down the road who kept making noise complaints and calling the city because of my truck (which he couldn't SEE, even when he walked by with his f-ing camera, which is why I put the gate up) now has his plain-@ss 1959 brick bungalow sandwiched on three sides by construction sites, as the existing homes have been torn down to make way for gigantic Casa Loma clones which do not fit in to the neighborhood one tiny bit.

There is no middle ground with property rights. You either have them or you don't. Generally, we don't.

Right you are, Knight99 - Habitats for Humanity is a Maurice stlong baby and is therefore too tainted to be considered anything but vile:
http://www.crossroad.to/text/articles/hab2.html

The Phantom >

“You got the part where I'm not the guy with the three rusty cars up on blocks and the yeller dawg lying in the dust in front of the sagging porch, right?”

Yup I got it, even the first time.

My point was about the rusty car hicks, and people thinking their rights to live like public pigs trumps those that chose to pay allot of extra money for quite, clean neighborhoods. There are plenty of public pig neighborhoods to go around already.

My previous comment wasn’t directed at you personally, it sounded like you lived in a snotty neighborhood that would complain about anyone or anything for the sake of complaining. That happens, and you moved out.

There is a flipside though, and this story reads something like one to me.

An exaggerated example would be that people have a right to spend lots of money building nice million dollar communities and not have dirt bags move in next door with a rusted mobile home on the last vacant lot available. If anyone wants to experience that, you just need to travel to most of the third world sh*tholes to see plenty of it. India comes to mind, I’ve spent allot of time there, and wouldn’t wish it on anyone, rich or poor.