The Tolerant Left

LOL - I love this part especially: "...may it happen to those misguided miscreants who suggest that today’s death toll at the Navy Yard would have been lower if the employees there were allowed to pack heat.”

Yeah, that's right. Qualified, trained civilians with guns. They never stop crime! **eyeroll**.

I suppose this misguided man also supports the policy that gave the Marines on the base weapons, but no ammunition, lest "work place" violence occur. Better to have expanded "Gun Free" zones, because those big signs always stop bad guys.

How is it that each of these types of madmen shooters are either shot dead by responders, or shoot themselves when people fight back?? You don't think the fact that responders shoot back might have something to do with that?

Fewer guns is not the solution to violent mentally ill people being out on our streets.

There used to be a time when nut cases were locked up for the protection of society and themselves. They rarely do that anymore. Voices telling someone to do evil things? Throw them out onto the street.

"... I didn’t "really" bring [the NRA’s) children into it,”

Course not...not really.

Another retreat... heralded by a qualification.

Why am I not surprised that a journalist who "teaches" at a university would be a left wing anti-gun pinko?

I certainly hope Mr Guth looses his position but I won't be holding my breath.

He has been booted from his job at the school. He is also being roasted on all of the "social networks"

Great to see the digital equivalent of public stockade being invoked.

Of course, if guns are illegal, all gun crime will be carried out using illegal guns. I suppose that's the objective - only criminals will be armed, and police (and in today's world the police are little but well-armed thugs).

In Canada both side arms and AK-47s are illegal (without an extensive procedure to obtain a license). And yet both are available. Thanks to the proliferation of drugs and drug wars, AK-47s reportedly are now being used even in formerly peaceful St. John's NL.

AND YET THEY ARE ILLEGAL! Don't criminals respect the law?

In the US and to a somewhat lesser extent in Canada the police act to suppress the law-abiding. They don't care much about criminals, couldn't care less about terrorists - a mere nuisance and distraction.

A prof at J school knows the value of words. That is what they teach isn't it?

Guth's retraction is a piece of crap.

Chancellor Bernadette Gray-Little on Friday issued a statement regarding Associate Professor of Journalism David Guth.

Who evidently ascended to chancellor by possessing the most qualified name.

What he said is vile beyond words. He does, however, have the same freedom of speech and the press that any resident of the United States does. There are exceptions to that freedom, of course - slander, libel, incitement to immediate violence, copyright infringement, and (at least in theory) obscenity - but what he has done does not fall within any of them. He should not have been placed on administrative leave. Just as conservative speech and print language that left-wingers find offensive is protected under the first amended to the US constitution, so is left-wing speech and print language. His freedom is also mine.

Somebody said something that made me think. The antis claim that an untrained civilian can't effectively stop a shooter. Well, it seems that the untrained civilian who is doing the murdering doesn't seem to have much of a problem hitting people, so why shouldn't the guy shooting back at him have just as much of a chance as hitting the target?

But threats and name calling are so much easier than ideas, facts and debate. I'm sure that those same comments would be given the thumbs up by his peers. I doubt he ever imagined that anyone would object to his child-like emotional outburst. After all, the other side is evil.

Gun control is one of the few debates where the left has lost. They've repeatably lost at the Supreme Court and in the court of public opinion. They are having difficulty accepting it.

As to free speech, you're only entitled to the government not infringing on your right to free speech. Most employers have a code of conduct section in the employment contract. I don't think his tantrum should be a firing offence but it would not be an infringement of his constitutional rights.

"May God damn you"

Nice....I love how these progressive types always invoke God in their hate-filled speech/threats towards conservatives. As if God has anything to do with it. And seeing that most progressives don't want to have anything to do with God, and in fact, try to scrub any mention of Him out of society, their use of His name is even more ridiculous.

Freedom of speech does not mean being free of the consequences of saying something stupid. Putting this turd in jail would be excessive. Firing his ass off the job at the college? Not so much.

The one thing I realized from hanging out a conservative sites is that I'm not a conservative. Free markets, individual rights and responsibilities, social and economic freedom are a better fit. I know that conservatives often say they want these things but, like progressives, they want the government to ban the things they find distasteful.

BTW, repeatably should be repeatedly in my previous comment.

He says he's "Most important: an independent thinker." By independent, he meant lockstep leftie incapable of independent thought

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For this moron to lose his job as a result of his idiotic statement has nothing to do with freedom of speech. No-one is calling for him to be imprisoned for his statement as his speech does fall under the protection of the first amendment. The vast majority of people who are employed by an organization are required to abide by restrictions on their public speech when it comes to matters that may harm their employer. As a result of this statement, a state politician indicated that he would be voting against any bills funding the university. Remember that this is Kansas, a very red state. Consider what the reaction would be had a Berkley professor come out against homosexuality - likely immediate dismissal.

The statement is devoid of any intellectual content and what this moron is essentially saying is: "I hate guns and hope that the children of anyone who believes in the second amendment are killed in a random shooting". It's an expression of pure emotion without any logical support -- a typical leftist statement. Had he made this comment in a conversation with some of his fellow leftist professors, then no-one would know about it. Instead he chose to make the statement online where it was available to anyone in the world who chose to view it. Obviously, it's going to attract criticism and it's an indefensible statement. Also, he can't use the excuse that he was drunk when he posted it as it seems he was sober at the time.

That's why the US constitution allows for protected anonymous speech. If someone is independently wealthy, they can say what they like whereas the rest of us have to consider what we say if that speech is likely to piss off an organization that we work for. While I'm as close to irreplaceable as a doctor working in a small center can be, I know damn well that if I delved into certain topics under my own name I know the health authority would terminate my contract. That's a minor detail of keeping a job that seems to have escaped this blabbermouth moron.

Iowa Jim said: " Just as conservative speech and print language that left-wingers find offensive is protected under the first amended to the US constitution, so is left-wing speech and print language."

And then Jamie MacMaster said: "But that's wrong. He may be a dickhead, and he may be a left-wing dickhead, but his only crime is saying something stupid."

You guys just kill me sometimes. Seriously, you're killing me here. Don't you know a red herring when somebody slaps your face with it?

Keeping or losing a job because of something you've said is not a freedom-of-speech issue. The government is not involved. Professor Guth is not being charged with a crime, or jailed, or even looked at funny by cops for what he said.

He's being -fired-.

Which is both right and proper, given his job. You can't hold a position of trust, where more than half of what you get paid for is based on the honor system, while wishing death on the children of people you disagree with over a minor matter of public policy. Like, DUH.

Its not even an issue that's covered by tenure. He's flat-out broken all the rules of the university that employs him, he's broken the rules of common decency by inciting violence and death on his fellow citizens, AND he's proven himself unfit to be trusted in front of a room full of young students.

He's beyond the pale. He has left civilized society and painted himself blue. He's run up the Jolly Roger and fired a volley across our collective bow. This guy should be untouchable because he's a "journalism professor", a minor Poobah in the liberal priesthood? We are not allowed to return fire to his shot across our bow?

What do you think would happen to a Conservative journalism prof if he wished death on the children of the ACLU? Oh right, there ARE no Conservative journalism profs.

The University of Kansas should fire the h3ll out of this cretin, jettison him out of his office so hard he bounces off every step. He should be blackballed at every school in the USA forever more. He should end up washing dishes at Denny's. Because he's unfit to serve as a teacher. Plain and simple.

There are plenty of people around who advocate totalitarian political systems (e.g., Stalinists and neo-Nazis), and some of them even believe they should attempt to take over from within and/or incrementally. That alone is ample reason to reject gun control. The citizens would need - and would have the right to - some form of protection from the depredations of government should the bastards be successful.

"...Keeping or losing a job because of something you said is not a freedom of speech issue..."

The freedom of speech issue was not my bone of contention. The point I raised was the application of "political correctness"...not the same thing at all.

Aside from professor head-up-butt's reality-challenged ranting for civilian disarmament, the real question the media should be asking about the navy yard shooting is why this is another deranged shooter claiming to hear "voices" on both SSRI drugs and VA psycho care programs - this is the 3rd mass shooter like this folks, it's a pattern the MSM ignores - Is the VA manufacturing manchurian candidates for Holder's gun confiscation pogrom? Why was a trained SWAT team who arrived within minutes told to stand down?????

Doesn't pass the sniff test - same as professor head-up-butt's moral superiority.

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