An Islamic tax on food. “Learn to recognize it on food packaging.”
38 Replies to “The Needless Cruelty of Halal Slaughter”
No more Campbells soup for me…antisoup Nazi…
Awesome…he’s always so to the point and makes it so well it’s difficult to refute. I love passing these on to the prog-lefties and waiting for their non-replies.zvk9gd
I buy beef and pork chops from a farmer that kills the animal with his arc welder!!
Just kidding.
Thank goodness…arc welders shouldn’t be abused like that…
I make a point of avoiding “halal” foods as a matter of principle, but there’s another group in Canada that is extorting funds from food manufacturers and that’s the council of Rabbi’s. One can find which food manufacturers they’ve shaken down with the COR enclosed in a circle on the food packaging. Some years back a university professor made this simple fact known on his web site and was the target of an HRC persecution as he referred to this as a “Jew tax” which is a completely valid description. I resent paying for the unique dietary religious proclivities of small fractions of the population which, curiously, have more in common than they differ. Fortunately, such religious taxes aren’t levied on the bacon or pork rinds that I buy.
As far as the “cruelty” of the killing process, it’s a relatively painless way to bleed out. My in-laws have slaughtered lambs for decades by slicing their jugular veins and letting the animal bleed out. The few lambs that I saw killed in this manner didn’t seem to be in any distress and I’ve quite enjoyed the meat produced by this process. The blood, of course, is saved for various dishes and they also make their own haggis.
When it comes to kosher food, I primarily resent the fact the the “official Jews”, in Ezra Levant’s parlance, consider anyone daring to mention what is effectively a process of extortion a “hate crime”. Interestingly “kosher” and “halal” foods are generally identical. Fortunately, the vast majority of my Jewish acquaintances are not religious fundamentalists. IMO, if one has rigid dietary restrictions that one feels compelled to follow for religious reasons, then setup ones own food production facilities or local food outlets and don’t impose them on the vast majority of the population who are primarily concerned whether the food has been produced in appropriately sanitary conditions and not the least concerned about whether the food preparation is consistent with idiosyncratic superstitions.
I was going to post, “is that halal halal or kosker halal” but you beat me to it, and made it too easy for the religious drones in here. As to your assertion that to the similarities of the 2 religions, well that should ruffle a few feathers!!
…there’s another group in Canada that is extorting funds from food manufacturers and that’s the council of Rabbi’s.
Heh, it’s anti-Semitic to mention that. COR isn’t just on food items.
If you haven’t watched this Australian produced video, “Understanding Halal Certification Schemes” you should. While it’s just over 30 minutes in length it is filled with information you should know. Do take the time to watch it. Then pass it on to your email contacts.
Understanding Halal Certification Schemes http://youtu.be/YVPngzSE94o
A fun thing to do at the grocery store is to put packages of bacon in with the halal chicken, (which is most of it these days at most grocery stores). Your average white guy won’t even notice or care and the muzzies won’t touch it.
minuteman, what a good idea. I love it.
Heh, that’ll keep the Jews away too. That would be ‘anti-semitic’ 🙂
Heh, that’ll keep the Jews away too. That would be ‘anti-semitic’ 🙂
Where I shop the chicken and beef sections are either side of the pork section. Same fridge.
Maybe y’all should move to the country.
One other thing I learned while researching this topic a while back – for meat to be certified halal it must be butchered by Muslims. There goes an entire industry . . .
We had a halal chicken processing plant located (believe it or not) in an old house on an old residential street in the middle of the city, (Oshawa Ontario). It wasn’t there all that long before it mysteriously burnt to the ground.
There’s a halal shop right in my buddy’s neighborhood. I told him to get the hell out of dodge, as that’s a sure sign of impending doom. He didn’t even know what halal meant.
The big difference between the Council of Rabbis certification, and halal certification is that the former group doesn’t want me dead. To me, that’s material.
I agree with Pat that ANY corporate buy-in to superstitious nonesense is extortive by the groups pimping this garbage, exploitive of consumers by the business brandishing such endorsement and essentially is a hidden tax on the product – passed on in the cost of the extortionist special interest group’s endorsement to us in product price.
I reject products which have ANY special interest group endorsement on it whether it’s Halal, Kosher, Green, fair trade, MADD, anti-gun, charity or endorsement of any other special interest “ribbon” crusade.
There should always be a distinct separation of business/market and state/church/politics – always – or we lose demand economics to manufactured demand economics (a form of command economics) and the free market becomes corrupted by selling “causes” instead of concerning itself with better/faster/cheaper competition for the consumer. I’ve boycotted such feel-good corporatist tyranny for years – but that’s just me my freedoms mean more to me than any tribalist superstition or junk science meme.
Condell also makes a salient point in exposing the force which drives compliance with these tyrannies and that is, of course, so-called political correctness. PC is nothing more than the monopolization of the language by special interests for use as a weapon against diversity of opinion/choice/belief – the antithesis of free liberal democratic thought.
“The windpipe (throat), food-tract (oesophagus) and the two jugular veins must be cut.” http://www.halalcertification.ie/islamic_slaughtering_method.html
So does the animal die first of blood loss or suffocation? If blood loss, the animal would still suffocate as it was bleeding to death and that would be like water boarding which the left has called torture.
I’ve never seen halal slaughter,but have seen the kosher kills,not a sight for the squeamish. The rabbi does use an impressive 3 root razor though.
Anyways,went to the cupboard and checked out my Campbell’s soup. The cream of mushroom is OK,but the tomato has the halal symbol on it. Also,right below it is”www.campbellsoup.ca” and 1-800-410-7687. I’m going to have some fun with that tomorrow.If it saves one tomato from a hideous death,it will be worth it.
BTW,the extra VIRGIN olive oil is not certified.I may dump the slutty stuff.
So, why do animal rights activists decry the method we hunters use to take down animals, but never make a mention of halal or kosher slaughter methods?
Is it political correctness raising it’s ugly head again?
Hes completley correct.
This is just another form of Jizra. With Muslim domination against us Infidels.
Listen to this video. Man did I learn a lot. Got to give the Aussies points for truth telling.
Understanding Halal Certification Schemes http://blazingcatfur.blogspot.ca/2013/08/understanding-halal-certification.html
“So, why do animal rights activists decry the method we hunters use to take down animals, but never make a mention of halal or kosher slaughter methods?”
Because animal rights activists are white liberals, and they really don’t expect better from “those people”. You hunters by contrast are the true enemy of all that’s good. You’re supposed to know better.
Otherwise known as the racism of low expectations. Poor things can’t help it, you know. Can’t expect them to live up to civilized standards when they’re fresh off the boat from BongoBongo Land, can we?
Besides, just think of all the colourful festivals and lovely restaurants.
I’m bothered by the furtive & surreptitious design and location of these religious labels.
If these special interest groups are so proud of their convictions surely they would make them more obvious to the consumer.
Halal and kosher are essentially identical; both are based on on superstition. AFAIK modern slaughter methods are more humane, as the animal is rendered unconscious before slaughter.
Fundamentalist religions believe that pain and suffering purifies the soul – I fail to see the connexion to animals. I rather doubt if any were born with original sin.
At a bit of a loss here with the idea of “humane killing”. Killing is killing. Doesn’t matter if you are a wildebeest being chased across the Serengeti by a lion or a caribou being pursued by wolves or a lamb following the Judas goat into the modern slaughter house.
Want to dry pluck a turkey? Hang it by its feet, take a small sharp knife, open the bird’s beak and cut back to front through the turkey’s brain. Then use the same knife and slit the jugular vein. The feathers are easily removed and the skin remain nice and white not the greasy tan colour brought on by scalding.
BTW the best way to kill a lamb is to slit its throat. There is no meat loss and no contamination.
This halal crap drives me crazy. I used to buy New Zealand lamb regularly but ever since they started putting that little halal symbol on it I refuse to touch it. I emailed the New Zealand company and said I would no longer buy their product and they didn’t give a damn.
Alsor our local grocer tries to hide the halal logo under the price sticker, trying to fool customers into buying the product who might otherwise not.
Many smart writers have written about the “creep” of Islam and all its evils coming with it, and in my view the halal stuff is a perfect example.
NEVER buy halal, you are simply aiding and abetting the barbarians.
You may also want to consider the fact that when you see stacked trays
of “Halal” labeled chicken items in the supermarket meat display cooler
next to identical unmarked trays from the same meat packer, what are the
odds they bother to run two expensive production lines side by side?
Joe –
Agreed – No such thing as humane killing – An oxymoron – Pretty gruesome no matter how it’s done.
And yeah, I’ve done the turkey thing with my dad exactly as you’ve described it many times – nasty business.
At a bit of a loss here with the idea of “humane killing”. Killing is killing.
Yeah well, compare crucifixion to the guillotine…..
“…..modern slaughter methods are more humane, as the animal is rendered unconscious before slaughter”
Not sure this is true …. ‘toured’ a pork processing plant in Stratford, ON, years ago. The slaughter was quick enough alright, but the pigs could smell death as they approached the end of the walk-way and they were agitated … to say the least. I’d rather throw my arm over the animal’s neck, coo niceties for 20 seconds and then slit their throat,
MM
Never tried crucified beef sasquatch – what does it taste like? The point is that the more anxiety the animal suffers before slaughter the more ‘off’ the meat tastes. Take to identical steers. Drop one in the feedlot where it has been feeding for months and drop the other in the slaughter house two hundred miles away. You can taste the difference in the meat. The one killed in its feedlot tastes much better.
Oh my god, after the video I found Campbell’s soup in my pantry with a large M surrounded with a black crescent moon!!!!!
Never again!
Joe >
Not a lot different than deer “one shot” dropped on the spot verses wounded and tracked for a mile.
Far more tender and less adrenaline fueled “gamey”.
Muslim’s don’t eat mushrooms.
and “halal” like kosher can be traced back to the old testament, so what is the kristian variation of this nonsense?????
The words of Jesus as recorded in Mark 7:15 ““All of you listen,” He said, “and try to understand. It’s not what goes into your body that defiles you; you are defiled by what comes from your heart.””
In other words eat what you want because should you be condemned, it will be the result of the evil in your heart not the food you consume.
I hear Halal meat tastes better.
The notion that Halal certification is another way the Muslims will take over the world is kind of an adorable condensation of all the anti-Muslim crazy that has seeped into conservatism over the last decade.
LAS you make being anti Muslim sound like a bad thing. Just goes to show that once again Libertarians Are Stupid. How stupid? LAS doesn’t even know that Islam (submission) is the antithesis of libertarian.
No more Campbells soup for me…antisoup Nazi…
Awesome…he’s always so to the point and makes it so well it’s difficult to refute. I love passing these on to the prog-lefties and waiting for their non-replies.zvk9gd
I buy beef and pork chops from a farmer that kills the animal with his arc welder!!
Just kidding.
Thank goodness…arc welders shouldn’t be abused like that…
I make a point of avoiding “halal” foods as a matter of principle, but there’s another group in Canada that is extorting funds from food manufacturers and that’s the council of Rabbi’s. One can find which food manufacturers they’ve shaken down with the COR enclosed in a circle on the food packaging. Some years back a university professor made this simple fact known on his web site and was the target of an HRC persecution as he referred to this as a “Jew tax” which is a completely valid description. I resent paying for the unique dietary religious proclivities of small fractions of the population which, curiously, have more in common than they differ. Fortunately, such religious taxes aren’t levied on the bacon or pork rinds that I buy.
As far as the “cruelty” of the killing process, it’s a relatively painless way to bleed out. My in-laws have slaughtered lambs for decades by slicing their jugular veins and letting the animal bleed out. The few lambs that I saw killed in this manner didn’t seem to be in any distress and I’ve quite enjoyed the meat produced by this process. The blood, of course, is saved for various dishes and they also make their own haggis.
When it comes to kosher food, I primarily resent the fact the the “official Jews”, in Ezra Levant’s parlance, consider anyone daring to mention what is effectively a process of extortion a “hate crime”. Interestingly “kosher” and “halal” foods are generally identical. Fortunately, the vast majority of my Jewish acquaintances are not religious fundamentalists. IMO, if one has rigid dietary restrictions that one feels compelled to follow for religious reasons, then setup ones own food production facilities or local food outlets and don’t impose them on the vast majority of the population who are primarily concerned whether the food has been produced in appropriately sanitary conditions and not the least concerned about whether the food preparation is consistent with idiosyncratic superstitions.
I was going to post, “is that halal halal or kosker halal” but you beat me to it, and made it too easy for the religious drones in here. As to your assertion that to the similarities of the 2 religions, well that should ruffle a few feathers!!
…there’s another group in Canada that is extorting funds from food manufacturers and that’s the council of Rabbi’s.
Heh, it’s anti-Semitic to mention that. COR isn’t just on food items.
If you haven’t watched this Australian produced video, “Understanding Halal Certification Schemes” you should. While it’s just over 30 minutes in length it is filled with information you should know. Do take the time to watch it. Then pass it on to your email contacts.
Understanding Halal Certification Schemes
http://youtu.be/YVPngzSE94o
A fun thing to do at the grocery store is to put packages of bacon in with the halal chicken, (which is most of it these days at most grocery stores). Your average white guy won’t even notice or care and the muzzies won’t touch it.
minuteman, what a good idea. I love it.
Heh, that’ll keep the Jews away too. That would be ‘anti-semitic’ 🙂
Heh, that’ll keep the Jews away too. That would be ‘anti-semitic’ 🙂
Where I shop the chicken and beef sections are either side of the pork section. Same fridge.
Maybe y’all should move to the country.
One other thing I learned while researching this topic a while back – for meat to be certified halal it must be butchered by Muslims. There goes an entire industry . . .
We had a halal chicken processing plant located (believe it or not) in an old house on an old residential street in the middle of the city, (Oshawa Ontario). It wasn’t there all that long before it mysteriously burnt to the ground.
There’s a halal shop right in my buddy’s neighborhood. I told him to get the hell out of dodge, as that’s a sure sign of impending doom. He didn’t even know what halal meant.
The big difference between the Council of Rabbis certification, and halal certification is that the former group doesn’t want me dead. To me, that’s material.
I agree with Pat that ANY corporate buy-in to superstitious nonesense is extortive by the groups pimping this garbage, exploitive of consumers by the business brandishing such endorsement and essentially is a hidden tax on the product – passed on in the cost of the extortionist special interest group’s endorsement to us in product price.
I reject products which have ANY special interest group endorsement on it whether it’s Halal, Kosher, Green, fair trade, MADD, anti-gun, charity or endorsement of any other special interest “ribbon” crusade.
There should always be a distinct separation of business/market and state/church/politics – always – or we lose demand economics to manufactured demand economics (a form of command economics) and the free market becomes corrupted by selling “causes” instead of concerning itself with better/faster/cheaper competition for the consumer. I’ve boycotted such feel-good corporatist tyranny for years – but that’s just me my freedoms mean more to me than any tribalist superstition or junk science meme.
Condell also makes a salient point in exposing the force which drives compliance with these tyrannies and that is, of course, so-called political correctness. PC is nothing more than the monopolization of the language by special interests for use as a weapon against diversity of opinion/choice/belief – the antithesis of free liberal democratic thought.
“The windpipe (throat), food-tract (oesophagus) and the two jugular veins must be cut.”
http://www.halalcertification.ie/islamic_slaughtering_method.html
So does the animal die first of blood loss or suffocation? If blood loss, the animal would still suffocate as it was bleeding to death and that would be like water boarding which the left has called torture.
I’ve never seen halal slaughter,but have seen the kosher kills,not a sight for the squeamish. The rabbi does use an impressive 3 root razor though.
Anyways,went to the cupboard and checked out my Campbell’s soup. The cream of mushroom is OK,but the tomato has the halal symbol on it. Also,right below it is”www.campbellsoup.ca” and 1-800-410-7687. I’m going to have some fun with that tomorrow.If it saves one tomato from a hideous death,it will be worth it.
BTW,the extra VIRGIN olive oil is not certified.I may dump the slutty stuff.
So, why do animal rights activists decry the method we hunters use to take down animals, but never make a mention of halal or kosher slaughter methods?
Is it political correctness raising it’s ugly head again?
Hes completley correct.
This is just another form of Jizra. With Muslim domination against us Infidels.
Listen to this video. Man did I learn a lot. Got to give the Aussies points for truth telling.
Understanding Halal Certification Schemes
http://blazingcatfur.blogspot.ca/2013/08/understanding-halal-certification.html
“So, why do animal rights activists decry the method we hunters use to take down animals, but never make a mention of halal or kosher slaughter methods?”
Because animal rights activists are white liberals, and they really don’t expect better from “those people”. You hunters by contrast are the true enemy of all that’s good. You’re supposed to know better.
Otherwise known as the racism of low expectations. Poor things can’t help it, you know. Can’t expect them to live up to civilized standards when they’re fresh off the boat from BongoBongo Land, can we?
Besides, just think of all the colourful festivals and lovely restaurants.
I’m bothered by the furtive & surreptitious design and location of these religious labels.
If these special interest groups are so proud of their convictions surely they would make them more obvious to the consumer.
Halal and kosher are essentially identical; both are based on on superstition. AFAIK modern slaughter methods are more humane, as the animal is rendered unconscious before slaughter.
Fundamentalist religions believe that pain and suffering purifies the soul – I fail to see the connexion to animals. I rather doubt if any were born with original sin.
At a bit of a loss here with the idea of “humane killing”. Killing is killing. Doesn’t matter if you are a wildebeest being chased across the Serengeti by a lion or a caribou being pursued by wolves or a lamb following the Judas goat into the modern slaughter house.
Want to dry pluck a turkey? Hang it by its feet, take a small sharp knife, open the bird’s beak and cut back to front through the turkey’s brain. Then use the same knife and slit the jugular vein. The feathers are easily removed and the skin remain nice and white not the greasy tan colour brought on by scalding.
BTW the best way to kill a lamb is to slit its throat. There is no meat loss and no contamination.
This halal crap drives me crazy. I used to buy New Zealand lamb regularly but ever since they started putting that little halal symbol on it I refuse to touch it. I emailed the New Zealand company and said I would no longer buy their product and they didn’t give a damn.
Alsor our local grocer tries to hide the halal logo under the price sticker, trying to fool customers into buying the product who might otherwise not.
Many smart writers have written about the “creep” of Islam and all its evils coming with it, and in my view the halal stuff is a perfect example.
NEVER buy halal, you are simply aiding and abetting the barbarians.
You may also want to consider the fact that when you see stacked trays
of “Halal” labeled chicken items in the supermarket meat display cooler
next to identical unmarked trays from the same meat packer, what are the
odds they bother to run two expensive production lines side by side?
Joe –
Agreed – No such thing as humane killing – An oxymoron – Pretty gruesome no matter how it’s done.
And yeah, I’ve done the turkey thing with my dad exactly as you’ve described it many times – nasty business.
At a bit of a loss here with the idea of “humane killing”. Killing is killing.
Yeah well, compare crucifixion to the guillotine…..
“…..modern slaughter methods are more humane, as the animal is rendered unconscious before slaughter”
Not sure this is true …. ‘toured’ a pork processing plant in Stratford, ON, years ago. The slaughter was quick enough alright, but the pigs could smell death as they approached the end of the walk-way and they were agitated … to say the least. I’d rather throw my arm over the animal’s neck, coo niceties for 20 seconds and then slit their throat,
MM
Never tried crucified beef sasquatch – what does it taste like? The point is that the more anxiety the animal suffers before slaughter the more ‘off’ the meat tastes. Take to identical steers. Drop one in the feedlot where it has been feeding for months and drop the other in the slaughter house two hundred miles away. You can taste the difference in the meat. The one killed in its feedlot tastes much better.
Oh my god, after the video I found Campbell’s soup in my pantry with a large M surrounded with a black crescent moon!!!!!
Never again!
Joe >
Not a lot different than deer “one shot” dropped on the spot verses wounded and tracked for a mile.
Far more tender and less adrenaline fueled “gamey”.
Muslim’s don’t eat mushrooms.
and “halal” like kosher can be traced back to the old testament, so what is the kristian variation of this nonsense?????
The words of Jesus as recorded in Mark 7:15 ““All of you listen,” He said, “and try to understand. It’s not what goes into your body that defiles you; you are defiled by what comes from your heart.””
In other words eat what you want because should you be condemned, it will be the result of the evil in your heart not the food you consume.
I hear Halal meat tastes better.
The notion that Halal certification is another way the Muslims will take over the world is kind of an adorable condensation of all the anti-Muslim crazy that has seeped into conservatism over the last decade.
LAS you make being anti Muslim sound like a bad thing. Just goes to show that once again Libertarians Are Stupid. How stupid? LAS doesn’t even know that Islam (submission) is the antithesis of libertarian.