US reporters and commentators today portray this week’s protests as the restoration of the Egyptian revolution. That revolution, they remain convinced, was poised to replace long-time Egyptian leader and US-ally Hosni Mubarak with a liberal democratic government led by people who used Facebook and Twitter.
Subsequently, we were told, that revolution was hijacked by the Muslim Brotherhood. But now that Morsi and his government have been overthrown, the Facebook revolution is back on track.
And again, they are wrong.
Related: Who Lost the Middle East?
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“None of them share Western conceptions of freedom and limited government. None of them are particularly pro-American. None of them like Jews. And none of them support maintaining Egypt’s cold peace with Israel.”
Is Caroline Glick describing Egyptians, the Obama administration, liberal academics or all of the above?
Somewhat related. The quintessential flip-flopper strikes again: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57592465/john-kerry-on-his-boat-during-egypt-upheaval-state-dept-concedes/
Article relies on hazy logic and makes false statements. An example of the former is implying that anti-Islamists are all neo-Nasserites. There’s no reason to believe this. Egypt’s military does NOT want another war with Israel. There’s also nothing wrong with America being ‘irrelevant’. If only this were true. America wouldn’t be shovelling money into that country. Further, Israel is not the only ME country at peace. Jordon, Algeria, Morrocco, etc. I can’t take seriously a writer who plays it so loose and fast with facts and obviously has a pre-set narrative.
Fact is, nobody knows what’s going to come of the Arab Spring as a whole. Anyone claiming otherwise is FOS.
“Anyone claiming otherwise is FOS”
“Article relies on hazy logic and makes false statements”
Could it be that somebody does know how it’s going to go LAS?
Have you given that consideration?
There are 3 Billion people on earth some of them live totally immersed in this stuff.
She’s been right for the most part so far and your stuff is easily dismissed.
Like this
Who made this “false statement” ?
“An example of the former is implying that anti-Islamists are all neo-Nasserites”
LAS
“But it is clear that their opponents are not liberal democrats. They are a mix of neo-Nasserist fascists, communists and other not particularly palatable groups.”C.Glick
LAS = FOS
The Egyptian military never gave up power. They just presented the illusion of giving up power to the outside world.
The people of Egypt knew better.
Glick writes: “Within a week of the start of the protests in Tahrir Square on January 25, 2011, Americans from both sides of the political divide united around the call for Mubarak’s swift overthrow.”
Well, that’s not strictly true. Many of the “paleocons” were counselling caution at supporting the MoBros, when not outright suggesting that killing the whole damn lot of them was a fine idea. Mubarak may have been a jerk, but he was the least worst joker in the deck.
Sure, John McCain and Lindsay Graham are Republicans, and sure they supported Obama’s insane meddling in Egypt, but they are not conservatives in any meaningful sense of the word.
Hilarious. Everything you just wrote is either gibberish or supports me. Lay off eating the lead pain chips.
The likes of Glick thought that the Arab Spring would certainly lead to a total Islamic takeover of the ME and so far that hasn’t happened and there’s no reason to believe it will.
The Arab winter is still blowing.
“…nobody knows what’s going to come of the Arab Spring as a whole..”
Geez, I hate those rare occasions when I have to agree with you.
Jamie
if L-ass throws enough out there he will accidently be right every once in a while:-))))
Nothing anyone’s written “supports you”, including you.
And she doesn’t say she knows “what’s going to come of the Arab Spring as a whole”
Did you read the article?
She says the middle east and Egypt will be “unstable” in the foreseeable future a couple of times, she didn’t say “the Arab Spring would certainly lead to a total Islamic takeover of the ME”.
She recommends US and Israel’s ME policy should bank on the ME being “unstable” for now.
Caroline is right, the ME will be unstable for years, maybe decades, and there are no Alexander Dubceks in Egypt, or anywhere else in the ME for that matter.
The US and other western nations were had by the illusion of there being strong factions wanting to move toward liberal democracy, and are being had again in Syria.
At least the dictators Mubarak and Assad slept at night and the west should not have encouraged revolutions as long as these dictators were no threat to the west. Radical Islamists never sleep and plot destruction 245/7. Saddam crossed the line when he allowed terrorists to set up training camps, attacked Kuwait, and tried to commit genocide against the Kurds, as did the Taliban for training terrorists ti attack western targets.
It never was an Arab Spring. It was an attempt to create a climate in the ME toward a unified attack against the west as phase two, and the MB is the political arm. Phase one is the terrorist attacks in western countries.
It was an attempt to create a climate in the ME toward a unified attack against the west
Nonsense.
I gotta agree with richfisher on all points.
Most have no memmory of Nasser…the usual response to a reference to Nasser….”what’s a nasser…” by FOS fools like LAS.
anonymous, you are correct. I will say that the military has controlled Egypt since Nasser was in power.