Rocket launchers surface during Los Angeles guns buyback

Yep, a rocket launcher is as dangerous as a 2x4.

In hollywood, a wrong word is a terrorist event.

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The same could be said for most of the junk guns they collect in these buy back handouts. Most are either broken and inoperable or old antique revolvers for which ammunition is no longer available - just like that single shot disposable rocket launcher for which there is no ammunition available – inert antique wall hangers and curiosities turned in by grannies and hoodies to make a few quick bucks - big theatrical police PR about making streets safe and media sensation pimping. Modern politics is the art of the public hoaxing perpetrated by bureaucrats and their media whores.

Meanwhile the gangsters clean out the pawn shops, sell this useless junk to the cops and use the money to buy black market ammo for their illegally obtained Glocks. A sleazy propaganda exploit at taxpayer expense - the cruel hoax is that the "streets" are no safer than before this expensive PR stunt.

A buddy of mine has one of these that he retrieved from the dump as an army brat living in Petawawa. It could only harm someone by repeatedly hitting them with it; a rolling pin would be a much better blunt object.

Actually it would be fun to watch a 'gangsta' attempt a drive by rocketing from a car filled with his homies. The backblast would create crispy Kripps or very warm Bloods, no?

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dwright

I have to agree with one of the comments to that blog, paraphrased, "Not sure who is the bigger dummy, the (yellow banded) dummy rocket or the dummy bureaucrat".

Not only that, but as everyone who plays video games knows you have to carry at least two of those around with you in order to even disable a tank.

Remember when Chief Blair was so proud of the weapons stash they caught during the G20?

You know the one that consisted of a fake sword from a reinactor and a crossbow and chainsaw they pilfered from the car of a hapless hermit that was driving through Toronto at the time.

It's all smoke and mirrors to make the sheep feel like they are living a well protected quiet life.

The shortages exist now because people were wilfully ignorant to the signs before.

Now it's panic buying and investing.

The 299.00 semi-auto rifle for hunting now runs above 500.00.

Back then people said "paranoid". I prefer the term "foresight". I'm vindicated and they are paying waaaaaaaaaaaay more than I did.

Gun "buybacks" (sounds like the police sold the guns in the first place) are political theatre favoured by the kind of political careerists who too often end up as Chiefs of Police. Just look at the disconnect between Canada's association of police chiefs that cheered for the gun registry (and accepted funding from the computer software vendor that was paid huge sums of public money to create it) while the vast majority of police officers who actually patrol our streets dealing with crime in person would say it was a waste of resources that could not be relied upon to improve their safety at work or their effectiveness.

Regarding the magazine shortage, Brownells had a three year supply of AR15 mags, they sold out in 3-1/2 days.

More telling is this observation from firearms blogger Bob Owens who recently visited a gun store in his small town.

"Every weapon of military utility designed within the past 100+ years was gone. This isn’t a society stocking up on certain guns because they fear they may be banned. This is a society preparing for war."

I think this smoke and mirrors exercise created more smoke than the actual weapon.

Didn't we use to call these things 'bazookas'? I guess that wasn't a scary enough word.

In related news, according to no less than NBC the Sandy Hook school shooting DID NOT involve an AR-15. Little Adam left that one in the car, did his killing with just pistols.

Very Doom 3, using just the pistol. Higher difficulty rating, y'know.

NBC announced that little tidbit on Dec. 15th. Not widely disseminated.

http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495#50208495

Phantom, I am open to the idea that he did not use the AR-15, heck a regular shotgun would have been an easier firearm to use since it can put out 9 shots at once.

But I thought that report was initially wrong and that the coroner identified the .223 as the caliber of the projectiles? Are there any more reports to validate that the AR wasn't used?

Friends of mine who have back-channel scoopage are privately calling the coroner's report into question. That goes along with this "news" story. Adding to the credence of the story is we haven't heard it mentioned much. But no conclusive report from the cops or anything as yet that I know of.

Objectively it would be very difficult to identify the weapon used from the wound alone, because a .223 FMJ bullet would pass through a child. As would a 9mm FMJ pistol bullet. Wound tracks are random and don't leave nice caliber-sized holes in things, contrary to CSI etc. Short of finding bullets embedded in walls or furniture at the scene or in the victims... IMHO it would be a wild-@ssed guess on the coroner's part.

A guess informed by certain knowledge of what his superiors wanted to hear, without being too tinfoil hat about it.

Full disclosure, I'm not a doctor and I've never seen a bullet wound that wasn't mostly healed already.

Phantom,

I deal with these shootings in occasion, and on X-ray I can usually size and determine a bullet in situ sometimes down to calibre if it hasn't mushroomed or shattered. If I can obtain a bullet from a wound it can on occasion be determined the calibre, and type of firearm used : ie: FMJ, HP, caliber by measurement etc. lots of factors involved and having attended coroner cases you also have the scene completely at your disposal so retrieval of casings and bullets are very possible. A coroner has more power of search and evidence than police oddly enough.

Not a lot of physicians are experienced with firearms like I have, but a coroner who apparently deals with these cases often would have no significant troubles determining which firearms were involved through a variety of processes.

That being said the above is required. There always exist idiots and incompetents and add the media on it and the potential for screwup is present.

Oooooooh! Scary metal tubes!

Phantom, Colin, I've been more than a little dubious of all the reports, both media and official, since this incident. I did recall, that unlike Canada, in a lot of American jurisdictions, the office of local coroner is an elected position and its not unusual to find an undertaker in this job, furthermore, the forensic training is often unavailable for many in this position.

Whilst, I can in some respects, understand the confusion, and often contradictory reports, it was very evident, that there were lots of politicians and media types, well, prepared, with pre-written scripts waiting for an event like this. As such, it wouldn't surprise me that the local officials, would be forced into following the narrative, decided by others.

Robins111 yes it's true the position is elected but in that state it is a MD with a significant background in investigation IIRC.

That being said like you I agree that the media narrative has been very convenient. No doubt in my mind that some people were delighted to hear that it was an AR (never mind that a tiny percentage of homicides involve rifles) and had already written the articles at least In their minds.

This includes a number of media who I know should know better both about the significant rules and background checks that exist in the US to acquire a gun as well as the fact that the AR is really just another hunting rifle albeit a weaker calibre one and not at all a modern military firearm.

It has been a pile on. However they have stretched their political capital too far and have caused enough unrest amongst Americans that they are unlikely to get any of what Feinstein wants. They could have proposed simple bans on magazine sizes and waiting for the next shooting to dance on victims and propose more regulations and bans.

As I have stated the inevitable goal is pure banning there is no doubt. As I often say when you ban everything except hunting shotguns and then someone goes into a school an shoots defenceless kids with buckshot is that going to satisfy the gun banners because the shooting was done with a "good gun".

I think not. At that point they'll want to ban civil ownership of evil human killing shotguns.

Colin, I agree with what you say, however I'm more cynical, and think this overreaching by the anti's is going to create a very ugly situation very soon in the US. I am also of the opinion, that they were waiting for an event like this to spring this on the public.. Did you notice that nobody seems to have a pre written bill to deal with mental health in their bottom drawer...

A question for the Liberal left:

If for some reason our governments ever do turn on us as a society as they have in many other once free nations throughout history, how do you propose we stop them without the arms to do so?

At the moment you idiots are happy with Obamba although he has imposed serious martial law measures in the form of the NDAA and Patriot Act and the NDRP. Yet you were the same people screaming about BUSH being a Nazi dictator, or Harper for the same currently in Canada.

So now that you have a black dictator in power everything’s fine with you, but what if another white man, a “BUSH NAZI” gets into power and uses Obambas martial law measures to round you and all your loved ones up? You gave all the guns away dummies, your dead meat and the new BUSH Nazi is going to be sipping pina coladas and dancing on your ashes – horrors, maybe with a wedding ring on his finger and Bible in his hands.

“Naw, never happen here, we’re too special, that only happens to the little brown & black people in this day and age.”

I miss the good ol' days when reporters actually did a minimum amount of research before publishing.

Knight,

In my travels there does exist a portion of the lefty tribe in the US who well understands and supports the 2A for the reasons you described. The rapper IceT is one who put it very succinctly.

While I am not a lefty I would be ready to revolt against the government you described, the difference is that a lot of lefties secretly want their government with that type of power. Hence the 2A argument will never reach them.

Quite frankly what astonishes me more is that people think this is an American idea but anyone with any clue about British history knows full well where the 2A came from - the English Bill of Rights. Hence I am tired of the snivelling media attitude towards this like its some idea a bunch of hicks thought up after they came down from the mountains and kicked out their King.

"....they collected an arsenal that included 75 assault weapons, 698 rifles, 363 shotguns, 901 handguns and..."

Would it be churlish of me to ask if,in order to help pay for their buyback program, they offered the legal guns for sale to qualified buyers outside the big city?

Even half decent hunting rifles will fetch $300 and up,and California/LA ain't exactly rolling in dough.

Langmann >

“...the difference is that a lot of lefties secretly want their government with that type of power.”

Exactly, but they are to mentally ill to understand that it may not be THEIR government they give the power to. In fact it’s unlikely that it would be.

It amazes me that the radical hard left, like the Union thugs or the Occupy movement takes to the streets and gets their brains bashed in with batons, tear gas, and a whole host of militarized police weaponry – yet they fully support disarming the public and continue toinvest in their delusions that one day it’ll be them holding the BIG STICK.

News clips showing AK's , AR15 type firearms in police buybacks are bunk. 50$ or 200$ not. they are now 1500$+ on the street and rising. propaganda.
Sandy Hook story has changed 3 time. rifle in/out/in trunk.

The empty casings found on site would give the clearest evidence of what firearms were used. The simple fact that this evidence is not forthcoming lends credibility to the theory that it was handguns not the rifle that was used. The 'ban assault rifles' campaign is in full swing, and no doubt the people in control don't want to confuse the issue with inconvenient facts.

Knight 99 posed: “A question for the Liberal left: If for some reason our governments ever do turn on us as a society as they have in many other once free nations throughout history, how do you propose we stop them without the arms to do so?”

Knight, I think the mindset that permeates the lefty zombie horde is that somehow they will escape all the tyranny of a rogue state/regime because they are government worshippers, loyal statist boot-licks as it were. The lessons of history are lost on people who delude themselves in this false security. History shows that once the public’s ability to resist the injustices of a corrupt government (as in civilian disarmament)that government goes fully rogue and the pogroms start with the army and police (armed government force) are enlisted to that end. We are seeing this happen at an accelerated rate in the US. It is obvious the media in league with a martialist Washington regime, are willing to provoke the American public (red state people) into a fight with outrageous anti-constitutional legislating (and probably abusive regulatory confiscation/criminalization agendas). It is getting close to a civil backlash to militant federal hegemony – still the left (and particularly the zombies who will be put in a confrontational position with those being oppressed) believe this will not affect them they are on the “right side”, the side of power – just like so many other sycophant fools who have been ground up by power hungry regimes throughout history.

A government who has gone rogue (far beyond constitutional confines) which has decided to go to war against its citizens and uses unscrupulous unjust martial methods to force compliance or take property or to get its way, will surely turn on anyone, particularly its useful idiots.

Barely weeks after Sandy Hook,the latest crap, yet ANOTHER SHOOT 'EM UP is just released from the HOLLYWEIRD colon.

Anti gangster production with a rate-of-fire to make any psycho drool. Fun for the whole family!!

NRA spokesman is so right: Americas sick "west coast culture" is absolutely depraved. Let's close OUR border.

dmorris >

Bankrupt California doesn’t have enough money to run their English speaking schools anymore yet they have plenty of money to buy guns.

I guess when their finally "broke enough” they’ll open their overcrowded jails like Arnold “I’ll be back” threatened to do and unleash them on the defenceless public.

Again I find it amazing that the retarded left, just doesn’t get how big this little “gun thing” is with Americans. It’s a battle they simply can’t win by the laws of physics much less for economic, cultural and constitutional reasons. Even if by some magical miracle they thwart the laws of the Universe and succeed in banning, even removing all guns from the public, their dead meat by their own hand via government and other criminal organizations.

I`m not a firearms expert; my knowledge of guns is limited to hunting rifles and revolvers. I do however have a couple of questions with regards to rocket launchers. A: How did they get empty? I doubt that US or other military forces would just leave them laying around after they had fired them. B: Who says its OK to own a rocket launcher??

This one, with the yellow strip is a dummy... Normally, once they are shot, that's it, they are designed to be discarded.

Belive it or not, I am a good Engineer.
Off the top of my head, I can design a better rocket launcher.
Dilettantes............
Tech is a tool to me.
Not for adult children.
dwright

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I miss the good ol' days when reporters actually did a minimum amount of research before publishing.

Posted by: peterj on January 2, 2013 2:21 PM | Reply "

Holy crap,peterj....how old are you????

I wonder how many "Fast and Furious" weapons were turned in.

Plainzdrifter >

“B: Who says its OK to own a rocket launcher??”

Hillary Clinton, Barry O and the Liberal MSM who support and applaud non military personal around the Middle East running around and blowing up government assets with some.

Hell even SDA’s resident troll LAS was going on a few weeks ago posting that he hoped that the poor little Islamic rebels put Gaddafi’s cannibalized armories “to good use”!

If the Muslim Brotherhood/ Al Qaeda and Hamas can have them with Liberal approval, why not Mr. Clean taxpaying citizen with no criminal record or mental health issues?

Since the bulk of the shooting was done INSIDE the school, would one not think that most of the bullets fired would be fairly readily available to any "Law Enforcement" officer who actually CARED?

Never mind the bragging about collecting non weapons, its the cop theatre thats the real comedy.
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Lots of redundant protoplasm will be looking for work soon, California is bankrupt.
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Plainzdrifter "A: How did they get empty? I doubt that US or other military forces would just leave them laying around after they had fired them. B: Who says its OK to own a rocket launcher??"

In Canada, the army treats the tubes less casually. Anyone taking one home would go counter the "rockets in my pockets; mortars in my quarters declaration" The Canadian Army prohibits possession of empty casings.

You wouldn't want Bruce Cockburn to get his hands on one.