National Post: Woman suspected in New York subway death pleaded guilty to assaulting a stranger in 2003
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like walking downtown. the usual to/fro workin busridin folk take exception……
lotsa wierdos everywhere.
some real road a-holes behind the wheel too.
ban subways!!!!
In the bad old days when I was preparing to go to school in Tarawnta, my uncle the native Torontonian, gave me one piece of advice regarding the subway. ‘Stand with your back to the wall while you’re waiting for the train, so a pyscho cannot push you off the platform.’
Isn’t it wonderful that people with ‘mental health issues’ aren’t discriminated against by being committed to an institution where they can be medicated and treated?
Only white people can be racist, so it’s a good thing that their ignoring or repainting her statement about “hating Muslims” and putting it in terms like “she thought it would be cool” so that the Liberal left can better identify and sympathize with the contradiction.
Thank god there were no guns around though, someone could have gotten hurt.
Good advice, Al_in_Ottawa. I never stand anywhere near the tracks, always with my back against the wall. I also keep my eyes peeled and my ears alert and move as far away as I can from anyone who either looks or talks weird.
It’s funny how many people waiting for a train seem unaware of their surroundings, plugged into their i-pods, or whatever, completely oblivious to the people around them.
Being inattentive on the subway could cost you your life. It pays to be alert …
Quebecois NDP separatist >
“He is not a dictator”.
Obamba has signed more dictatorial Executive Orders than any other president before him.
Unconstitutional Executive Orders by his own admission in 2008 when he promised never to sign one because in his own words “they are unconstitutional.”
You obviously also agree with Obamba reinstating the Patriot Act, the Obamba “Kill List”, enacting the National Defence Authorization Act (NDAA), and more recently on Mar 16 2012 the National Defence Resource Preparedness (NDRP).
Even your own Huffington Post is has enough brains to be somewhat concerned. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jim-garrison/martial-law-under-another_b_1370819.html
So why Quebecois NDP separatist do you support Obamba and all of these dictatorial measures or try to tell people they don’t exist?
Back in to ’90’s I was forced to work in Tranna for a year. Took the GO Train and then the subway all the way to Sheppard Ave and back each day.I could not believe the number of mentally ill that took it. Most Monday mornings you could be assured that the train would stop for about 30 minutes because someone threw themselves on the tracks. God, what a zoo!
Good point, batb @ 4:43 pm. So many people tune out their immediate surroundings with i-pods and cell-phones that they ignorantly place themselves in real danger. I’d much prefer to be unplugged from the distractions and alert and in-tune with my physical circumstances, particularly in the fields where automation and weirdos interact. I’ve also heard of people dying needlessly while grooving down a railroad track; a distasteful climax to rap or heavy metal… Backs to the walls and all senses piqued, I say. Most of the weirdos these days are not very adept at racial profiling either, so this amplifies the threat level.
Darwin is always busy cleaning the shallow end of the gene pool.
Not to discount the need to be alert in public (anywhere, not just on a subway platform), but the headline of this thread is inflammatory and suggests that riding public transit is unreasonably dangerous. That’s just not true. You are at much, much greater risk of injury or death while travelling in your own private vehicle than on a public transit system.
Various studies put the death risk at about 10x for car travel versus being in a scheduled bus. Rail travel is even safer. The risk is greatest for commmuting by motorcycle, bicycle, or walking.
An older EU study which talks about this and is kind of interesting is here
Not to discount the need to be alert in public (anywhere, not just on a subway platform), but the headline of this thread is inflammatory and suggests that riding public transit is unreasonably dangerous. That’s just not true. You are at much, much greater risk of injury or death while travelling in your own private vehicle than on a public transit system.
Various studies put the death risk at about 10x for car travel versus being in a scheduled bus. Rail travel is even safer. The risk is greatest for commmuting by motorcycle, bicycle, or walking.
An older EU study which talks about this and is kind of interesting is here
the headline of this thread is inflammatory and suggests that riding public transit is unreasonably dangerous.
It doesn’t imply that at all. If you love the stink of riding with the unwashed then go right ahead.
Darwin is always busy cleaning the shallow end of the gene pool.
The best I can ascribe to you from your transparently shallow assertion is intentional irony.
Mentally ill person, hot-button issue, perennial victim group. The popular press would be stupid to ignore this.
It is generally difficult to get around large cities by personal transport. My parents and I first discovered this when he was posted from Edmonton to SHAPE outside of Paris. It is fairly easy to get around Paris via subway, bus, and foot; a nightmare by private car. Similarly with London, New York, and Washington. The lucky Washingtonian, if not a senior bureaucrat, will park near one or another subway entrances in the outer part of the city. Of course one can use taxis, which is I suppose what you are advocating – not that those are always clean and sweet-smelling, or even safe.
This article, and some of the responses, illustrate the importance of bringing back conscription.
Perhaps not conscription, but mandatory minimum 2 years national service at age 18, with the military as one option. Those who served honorably would get two years paid education for every year served.
The solution is to not ride “public transit”. If you do then you are supporting the people who want to enslave you.
When I was 17, before I had my own car. I was riding the C-Train in the middle of the afternoon reading a book and minding my own business. The train was full of people and I was sitting in the first row of seats closest to the cab. A very intoxicated native with about 100lbs or on me walked on at Heritage into the train and yelled You stole my wallet and the next thing I knew he was strangling me with both hands.
Not one person budged from their seats. I had to fight him with one hand on his to keep him from suffocating me and my other to to pound his face into bloody hamburger with a free fist until he let go and collapsed on the seat. (Evolution gave us knuckles for a reason) Not one person came to help or see if I was okay after. I fled the train because I didn’t want to be accused of anything, held for questioning and I certainly didn’t want to go a second round. When he got back up.
You wanna know something leftists. Having to fend for myself against school yard bullies gave me the skill and instincts to use my fist as an effective weapon that I really honestly believe saved my life that day. I really believe I would have died that day if I hadn’t been able to defend myself.
Absolutely believe it and glad to hear the fist practice saved your life. These days passengers don’t budge for female passengers being assaulted either and we wonder why women are now engaging in physical violence in greater numbers than ever seen before in North America-can’t depend on the masses of pansyified, no violence at any cost, collectivist weenies. I have no doubt these so called men would stand idly by while their wives are raped and not do a thing about it despite having the opportunity and a weapon close at hand.
Oh, Lord, what a bunch of nonsense is being posted here. “Original Rick” says that a subway suicide was almost a weekly event. Hogwash. The TTC experiences about 15 deaths a year, which is just over 1 a month. And since those incidents occur at different stations, for the most part, the idea that he’s being delayed every week is just preposterous. http://www.torontosun.com/news/torontoandgta/2009/11/27/11946726-sun.html
Similarly, people being pushed into oncoming trains does happen, but less than once a year. I started riding the subway in Toronto while in high school, and in the 40 years since, I have seen two violent incidents: one, a black man would repeatedly sit next to a young woman, and start muttering at them. The women would look disgusted, and move away, and he’d move on to the next. I reported it to the collector as soon as I got off, and a man behind overheard and said he was just about to do the same. Some people do have a sense of civic duty. The second was a couple of years ago; two black kids jumped a white guy and stole his i-something. But the white guy didn’t cry out for help or anything, and I just thought it was teenage guys playfighting; no one pulled a weapon So no observers pushed the emergency ribbon. The more observant may notice a common denominator between the two events.
I rode the Richmond Hill Go train to Union station for a couple of years, and found it generally punctual, clean, and quick. Leaving at 8 am would get me downtime by 8:40; try to do that on the Don Valley! My only complaint was there was no place to put a coffee cup, which made it hard to read the newspaper.
The TTC definitely has problems, as I noted in a longer piece in the earlier thread about the Edmonton murder. But these guys are making up fantasies that are not based in objective fact.
Oh, and one more thing – the TTC had half a BILLION riders last year. 15/500,000,000 is a number so small, it rivals Bambam’s credibility. The idea that the average rider is at risk on the TTC is laughable; you are 35 times more likely to be struck by lightning in a given year, but I don’t see people cowering indoors. I can’t speak for Vancouver, having ridden the Skytrain only once, many years ago. But a city that actively supports a drug-addict community gets what it deserves, IMHO.
Paul >
I haven’t ridden public transit in over 30 years but the last was in Calgary as a much younger person.
Your story was the type I remember frequently happening and usually involved an aboriginal.
I lived in Calgary, grew up hunting and fishing with my best friend at the time (aboriginal now deceased) on the Morley Stony Indian Reserve west of Calgary.
I have no racism issues, but have clearly witnessed the troubles within the aboriginal community’s and they ones they bring into ours.
As far as I’m concerned this shitty defenceless society of freaks and criminals is entirely the Liberal Left’s making.
From the Liberal welfare ghetto’s and reserves, to the early release of violent/ sexual offenders, to the inability to properly defend ourselves, to the promotion of decadent drug fuelled lifestyles.
BLAME the LEFT.
In fact they continually demand that we bring in ever more foreign cultures and problems, even to their own detriment (gays & feminists). For certain they will wipe out anything the Canadian aboriginal once had of their own culture with the multitude of Third World culture that REALLY doesn’t give a sh*t.
I live in BC in a smaller community-food and drink is not allowed on buses, nor is talking on cell phones. The service here is poor, including bus shelters whose seats collect and retain moisture.
When I rode the bus in Edmonton, albeit only for seven months, it definitely was not safe for women. I took the same bus at the same times each day-on 3 separate occasions the bus driver drove right passed me while I was standing directly at the stop. The buses were clean, but when full, there is no escaping other peoples body ouders in a confined space.
“The solution is to not ride “public transit”. If you do then you are supporting the people who want to enslave you.”
LOL
Spoken like someone who should hop on the bus and go pick up some meds!
like walking downtown. the usual to/fro workin busridin folk take exception……
lotsa wierdos everywhere.
some real road a-holes behind the wheel too.
ban subways!!!!
In the bad old days when I was preparing to go to school in Tarawnta, my uncle the native Torontonian, gave me one piece of advice regarding the subway. ‘Stand with your back to the wall while you’re waiting for the train, so a pyscho cannot push you off the platform.’
Isn’t it wonderful that people with ‘mental health issues’ aren’t discriminated against by being committed to an institution where they can be medicated and treated?
Only white people can be racist, so it’s a good thing that their ignoring or repainting her statement about “hating Muslims” and putting it in terms like “she thought it would be cool” so that the Liberal left can better identify and sympathize with the contradiction.
Thank god there were no guns around though, someone could have gotten hurt.
Good advice, Al_in_Ottawa. I never stand anywhere near the tracks, always with my back against the wall. I also keep my eyes peeled and my ears alert and move as far away as I can from anyone who either looks or talks weird.
It’s funny how many people waiting for a train seem unaware of their surroundings, plugged into their i-pods, or whatever, completely oblivious to the people around them.
Being inattentive on the subway could cost you your life. It pays to be alert …
Quebecois NDP separatist >
“He is not a dictator”.
Obamba has signed more dictatorial Executive Orders than any other president before him.
Unconstitutional Executive Orders by his own admission in 2008 when he promised never to sign one because in his own words “they are unconstitutional.”
You obviously also agree with Obamba reinstating the Patriot Act, the Obamba “Kill List”, enacting the National Defence Authorization Act (NDAA), and more recently on Mar 16 2012 the National Defence Resource Preparedness (NDRP).
Even your own Huffington Post is has enough brains to be somewhat concerned.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jim-garrison/martial-law-under-another_b_1370819.html
So why Quebecois NDP separatist do you support Obamba and all of these dictatorial measures or try to tell people they don’t exist?
Back in to ’90’s I was forced to work in Tranna for a year. Took the GO Train and then the subway all the way to Sheppard Ave and back each day.I could not believe the number of mentally ill that took it. Most Monday mornings you could be assured that the train would stop for about 30 minutes because someone threw themselves on the tracks. God, what a zoo!
Good point, batb @ 4:43 pm. So many people tune out their immediate surroundings with i-pods and cell-phones that they ignorantly place themselves in real danger. I’d much prefer to be unplugged from the distractions and alert and in-tune with my physical circumstances, particularly in the fields where automation and weirdos interact. I’ve also heard of people dying needlessly while grooving down a railroad track; a distasteful climax to rap or heavy metal… Backs to the walls and all senses piqued, I say. Most of the weirdos these days are not very adept at racial profiling either, so this amplifies the threat level.
Darwin is always busy cleaning the shallow end of the gene pool.
Not to discount the need to be alert in public (anywhere, not just on a subway platform), but the headline of this thread is inflammatory and suggests that riding public transit is unreasonably dangerous. That’s just not true. You are at much, much greater risk of injury or death while travelling in your own private vehicle than on a public transit system.
Various studies put the death risk at about 10x for car travel versus being in a scheduled bus. Rail travel is even safer. The risk is greatest for commmuting by motorcycle, bicycle, or walking.
An older EU study which talks about this and is kind of interesting is here
Not to discount the need to be alert in public (anywhere, not just on a subway platform), but the headline of this thread is inflammatory and suggests that riding public transit is unreasonably dangerous. That’s just not true. You are at much, much greater risk of injury or death while travelling in your own private vehicle than on a public transit system.
Various studies put the death risk at about 10x for car travel versus being in a scheduled bus. Rail travel is even safer. The risk is greatest for commmuting by motorcycle, bicycle, or walking.
An older EU study which talks about this and is kind of interesting is here
Hmmmm…my link HTML didn’t work but looks normal. Here it is again for your cut-and-paste enjoyment:
http://www.etsc.eu/oldsite/statoverv.pdf
the headline of this thread is inflammatory and suggests that riding public transit is unreasonably dangerous.
It doesn’t imply that at all. If you love the stink of riding with the unwashed then go right ahead.
Darwin is always busy cleaning the shallow end of the gene pool.
The best I can ascribe to you from your transparently shallow assertion is intentional irony.
Mentally ill person, hot-button issue, perennial victim group. The popular press would be stupid to ignore this.
It is generally difficult to get around large cities by personal transport. My parents and I first discovered this when he was posted from Edmonton to SHAPE outside of Paris. It is fairly easy to get around Paris via subway, bus, and foot; a nightmare by private car. Similarly with London, New York, and Washington. The lucky Washingtonian, if not a senior bureaucrat, will park near one or another subway entrances in the outer part of the city. Of course one can use taxis, which is I suppose what you are advocating – not that those are always clean and sweet-smelling, or even safe.
This article, and some of the responses, illustrate the importance of bringing back conscription.
Perhaps not conscription, but mandatory minimum 2 years national service at age 18, with the military as one option. Those who served honorably would get two years paid education for every year served.
The solution is to not ride “public transit”. If you do then you are supporting the people who want to enslave you.
When I was 17, before I had my own car. I was riding the C-Train in the middle of the afternoon reading a book and minding my own business. The train was full of people and I was sitting in the first row of seats closest to the cab. A very intoxicated native with about 100lbs or on me walked on at Heritage into the train and yelled You stole my wallet and the next thing I knew he was strangling me with both hands.
Not one person budged from their seats. I had to fight him with one hand on his to keep him from suffocating me and my other to to pound his face into bloody hamburger with a free fist until he let go and collapsed on the seat. (Evolution gave us knuckles for a reason) Not one person came to help or see if I was okay after. I fled the train because I didn’t want to be accused of anything, held for questioning and I certainly didn’t want to go a second round. When he got back up.
You wanna know something leftists. Having to fend for myself against school yard bullies gave me the skill and instincts to use my fist as an effective weapon that I really honestly believe saved my life that day. I really believe I would have died that day if I hadn’t been able to defend myself.
Absolutely believe it and glad to hear the fist practice saved your life. These days passengers don’t budge for female passengers being assaulted either and we wonder why women are now engaging in physical violence in greater numbers than ever seen before in North America-can’t depend on the masses of pansyified, no violence at any cost, collectivist weenies. I have no doubt these so called men would stand idly by while their wives are raped and not do a thing about it despite having the opportunity and a weapon close at hand.
Oh, Lord, what a bunch of nonsense is being posted here. “Original Rick” says that a subway suicide was almost a weekly event. Hogwash. The TTC experiences about 15 deaths a year, which is just over 1 a month. And since those incidents occur at different stations, for the most part, the idea that he’s being delayed every week is just preposterous. http://www.torontosun.com/news/torontoandgta/2009/11/27/11946726-sun.html
Similarly, people being pushed into oncoming trains does happen, but less than once a year. I started riding the subway in Toronto while in high school, and in the 40 years since, I have seen two violent incidents: one, a black man would repeatedly sit next to a young woman, and start muttering at them. The women would look disgusted, and move away, and he’d move on to the next. I reported it to the collector as soon as I got off, and a man behind overheard and said he was just about to do the same. Some people do have a sense of civic duty. The second was a couple of years ago; two black kids jumped a white guy and stole his i-something. But the white guy didn’t cry out for help or anything, and I just thought it was teenage guys playfighting; no one pulled a weapon So no observers pushed the emergency ribbon. The more observant may notice a common denominator between the two events.
I rode the Richmond Hill Go train to Union station for a couple of years, and found it generally punctual, clean, and quick. Leaving at 8 am would get me downtime by 8:40; try to do that on the Don Valley! My only complaint was there was no place to put a coffee cup, which made it hard to read the newspaper.
The TTC definitely has problems, as I noted in a longer piece in the earlier thread about the Edmonton murder. But these guys are making up fantasies that are not based in objective fact.
Oh, and one more thing – the TTC had half a BILLION riders last year. 15/500,000,000 is a number so small, it rivals Bambam’s credibility. The idea that the average rider is at risk on the TTC is laughable; you are 35 times more likely to be struck by lightning in a given year, but I don’t see people cowering indoors. I can’t speak for Vancouver, having ridden the Skytrain only once, many years ago. But a city that actively supports a drug-addict community gets what it deserves, IMHO.
Paul >
I haven’t ridden public transit in over 30 years but the last was in Calgary as a much younger person.
Your story was the type I remember frequently happening and usually involved an aboriginal.
I lived in Calgary, grew up hunting and fishing with my best friend at the time (aboriginal now deceased) on the Morley Stony Indian Reserve west of Calgary.
I have no racism issues, but have clearly witnessed the troubles within the aboriginal community’s and they ones they bring into ours.
As far as I’m concerned this shitty defenceless society of freaks and criminals is entirely the Liberal Left’s making.
From the Liberal welfare ghetto’s and reserves, to the early release of violent/ sexual offenders, to the inability to properly defend ourselves, to the promotion of decadent drug fuelled lifestyles.
BLAME the LEFT.
In fact they continually demand that we bring in ever more foreign cultures and problems, even to their own detriment (gays & feminists). For certain they will wipe out anything the Canadian aboriginal once had of their own culture with the multitude of Third World culture that REALLY doesn’t give a sh*t.
I live in BC in a smaller community-food and drink is not allowed on buses, nor is talking on cell phones. The service here is poor, including bus shelters whose seats collect and retain moisture.
When I rode the bus in Edmonton, albeit only for seven months, it definitely was not safe for women. I took the same bus at the same times each day-on 3 separate occasions the bus driver drove right passed me while I was standing directly at the stop. The buses were clean, but when full, there is no escaping other peoples body ouders in a confined space.
“The solution is to not ride “public transit”. If you do then you are supporting the people who want to enslave you.”
LOL
Spoken like someone who should hop on the bus and go pick up some meds!