Y2Kyoto: Who needs to sleep?

I can't believe the onus is on citizens to prove why they don't want to live in the middle of an industrial wind factory surrounded by giant metal towers with spinning blades. We live in an age where every living creature must be spared any hint of harm to their environment, yet these people are ignored and ridiculed. And the so-called environmentalists are silent.

Just the knowledge that all that "free" energy is sending your hydro bill through the roof is enough to give anyone sleepless nights.

I just know all this echo-denier trash is wrong. Where is da-proof of da-proof of da-proof? Yawn!

So bad for birds AND people.

Wind turbines are incapable of meeting our electrical requirements and need 100 per cent conventional back-up for those windless days. They also have to be subsidized up the ying-yang with tax dollars.

So just who benefits from them? The people who make them, of course. The people who install them and those who service them. Since the ordinary electricity consumer is not on that list of beneficiaries, you have to wonder if politicians are also benefiting via kick-backs. There has to be some reason so many of them are all fired keen to shove these monstrosities down peoples' throats.

Related: James Delingpole

It seems that most of the people that support bird blenders live in big centers. This brings up the question. Why arn't most of these things in cities???

"The Sunday Telegraph has learnt that the EU will shortly begin work on a new directive which may impose a binding target for further renewable energy, mostly wind, on the UK."

Isn't it nice to be dictated to by a bunch of far away bureaucrats? I can't wait for Canada to sign on to a similar agreement with the new Obama administration.

With any luck, we in B.C. should no longer have the cheapest electricity rates in North America,but among the most expensive. Windmills on every mountain top,that's the answer!

And as to the mental health issue, everyone knows we're all crazy out here anyway.

It's always interesting to scan the comments of articles like this. In the comments to the Telegraph article, there is one raving lefty commentor 'chrisclarkgold'.

As usual, he brings up supporter talking points.
- 66% percent of UK support wind farms - probably b/c they don't expect to live anywhere near the turbine in the city where they live.

- points to Germany like every other supporter of Big Green, this time saying how they have voltage stabilizers to take care of fluctuating voltage - false , This is not for large scale fluctualtions. Germany has learned that the large scale fluctuations need coal or hydro electric power to counter these swings, since they are the most cost effective way of solving an unnecessay problem.

It's always interesting to scan the comments of articles like this. In the comments to the Telegraph article, there is one raving lefty commentor 'chrisclarkgold'.

As usual, he brings up supporter talking points.
- 66% percent of UK support wind farms - probably b/c they don't expect to live anywhere near the turbine in the city where they live.

- points to Germany like every other supporter of Big Green, this time saying how they have voltage stabilizers to take care of fluctuating voltage - false , This is not for large scale fluctualtions. Germany has learned that the large scale fluctuations need coal or hydro electric power to counter these swings, since they are the most cost effective way of solving an unnecessay problem.

And with the 450-footers destined for the north shore of Superior, just imagine how tourists will be drawn to these...things. Many of the sites chosen to place these are subjects of the Group of Seven, forever to be vandalized by this ill-conceived scheme. Stupid hardly describes it.

This is a problem that might solve itself. Create a situation which causes severe symptoms of stress in nearby residents and suddenly there will be a propensity for people to snap and either wreck the bird blenders or to start shooting EU bureaucrats who advocate the construction of bird blenders but don't live anywhere near them.

The effects of noise on sleep are under-appreciated. One unexpected benefit of leaving Vancouver on my part was better quality of sleep. Last time I visited Vancouver, I became very aware of the constant sound of various sirens downtown - something I assumed my brain had tuned out while living there but was obviously still having physiologic effects despite no longer registering in consciousness.

I predict that it won't be long before bird blenders experience a sudden increase in "accidental" failures. While piling up 10 tons of dynamite or ANFO beside the monstrosity is the obvious and emotionally reassuring option, there are far simpler but less violent means of silencing these monstrosities.

A large diameter rope used to lasso one of the blades could be attached to a nearby massive object. When the wind started to blow, the turbine blade would be stressed beyond design specs and one would end up with disintegration of the blade complex with marked reduction of the resultant noise. Almost impossible to trace and cheap.

I agree with canuck66, those windmills are a blight on our lands. Traveling across Canada from the east coast this summer I was amazed and disgusted at the amount of natural Canadian vista that was marred by the sight of those monsters. I've actually gone close to those eyesores and believe it or not the sound/vibration effect of those bird mashers made me nauseous physically. I worked half of my life near and around turning propellers, rotors and jet engines and never felt like I did with a wind farm. Only thing that constant exposure to aircraft noise got me was hard of hearing.

Loki I'd like to think the way you do, but so many farmers have signed on to the pyramid scheme where I used to live I can't see it happening.

Headland after headland for miles(when the crops where almost ready to harvest) have been plowed so archeological studies can be done. They seem to be going ahead even as evidence damning turbines comes to light, but the leases are signed and the money's still flowing so many can still afford to be ignorant.

I can see some sad faces in the future wanting bailed out looking at useless hulks rusting and leaking gear oil all over their fields, some of them being my most respected friends.

It's a sad situation and it's going to cost Ontario dearly.

" Many of the sites chosen to place these are subjects of the Group of Seven, forever to be vandalized by this ill-conceived scheme. Stupid hardly describes it."

Canuck66,there IS a solution: some of those brilliant Canadian artists whom we've supported over the years,can be hired to alter the original works of the Group of Seven. Just adding a couple of windmills shouldn't be too hard,and it WOULD reflect the new reality.