University! - The “abysmal” state of free speech at Canadian public universities is stifling students’ right to speak their minds, according to a new report card that gives mostly failing grades to universities and their student unions.
h/t Victor
University! - The “abysmal” state of free speech at Canadian public universities is stifling students’ right to speak their minds, according to a new report card that gives mostly failing grades to universities and their student unions.
h/t Victor
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Universities are the training ground for socialism especially at Arts and Education campuses. You will be assimilated and shutting down free speech is how the socialist bent is maintained. This behavior is not surprising, especially in Arts campuses, as this is where our education bubble is created and most of your useless degrees come from.
How did Memorial University manage to get two C's? I'd give it F's across the board.
I remember getting DOG PILED for daring to question the "Higher Authority"
People threatening my Family for disagreeing with them.
University of Lethbridge, circa 1994-1998.
Lefties like to traumatize people into agreeing with them......
Never again.
Dale
Ah, but universities are the EPITOME of "diversity". After all, one's Preferred Species status is a MAJOR factor in admission to ANY "Institution of Higher Learning". How much more diversity than that could anyone possibly want?
Just think of how diverse their job prospects will be after they waste 5 or 6 years of their pathetic lives, building up a massive debts so they can acquire a degree in Transgendered Victim Grievance Mongering and Aboriginal Climate Scientology.
Their prospects will be so diverse they can work at Tim Horton's or Walmart.
It starts alot earlier than in university.My 11 year old son came home from school to tell me his teacher told the class that raising taxes is a good thing and that Obama is the best president that America has ever had,and this is a private catholic school to boot.
WRT student unions.. I'm not usually in favour of coercion, but one thing that could help is mandatory online voting at class registration time. The technical infrastructure already exists at every university to make this happen. 7% of students voted on my campus this year. And I dare say the voting 7% is not an evenly distributed representation of the student body's ideological inclinations. Since every student is forced to pay union dues, it's not a stretch to force every student to vote. I could be wrong, but it should have a moderating effect.
And more generally, while it's true that campuses have been almost entirely transformed into left wing indoctrination centres, there is hope, and it lies in the students. My hope lies in the natural rebelliousness of youth and, to a lesser degree, their sense of fair play.
This is best explained with a short anecdote. While waiting for a lecture to start a few semesters ago (in a literature course at one of the most left wing departments possibly imaginable) I overheard a student - whose clothing and demeanor branded her an occupy protester - complaining to one of her friends about a professor. Her complaint went something like this: "Professor X's lectures are so anti-conservative that I felt bad for any conservative students, because they will be afraid to voice their opinions in class or on assignments. I agree with every single one of Professor X's positions, but it's not fair that she's doing that in a lecture."
University student unions tend to attract the larval Lefties because there is a healthy budget, and all students must contribute, although few bother to vote. It's a situation tailor-made for would-be empire builders. Where do you think Svend Robinson got his start in politics?
Mandatory membership in a students' union is even less defensible than mandatory membership in a trade union, because the students are not in an adversarial relationship with the school administration (although student unions, for self-serving reasons, paint it that way); they are clients, and can take their business elsewhere, if dissatisfied.
Since one of the major sources of income for universities is research grants, that gives us a lever to use. Write your Conservative MP, and ask him or her to consider legislation to suspend research grants to universities that fail to make membership in, and financing of, students' unions completely voluntary.
H.Ryan, a catholic school in Ottawa was going to take 52 students to Ohio to promote voting for Obama in door to door canvassing. The parents stopped this but these lefties never give up.
Philosophers have better centuries and worse centuries, as the spirit of the times changes. The 18th century was good; the 19th century mixed, the 20th century baneful. Universities incubated both fascism and communism, along with their many sub-versions (pun intended). Although the great democracies defeated those two particular monstrosities in the end, it was a close-run thing and no thanks to their academic elites. As for the 21st century, with jihadists infesting campuses all over the world, we’re off to a rocky start.
No doubt, today’s universities “empower their administrators and student union politicians … to censor expression on campus,” just as the Calgary brochure complains. But that’s no departure; it’s what universities do. They burn books or express solidarity with those who do. At Heidelberg, they did it for Hitler — but never mind Heidelberg. When Nazism was in vogue during the 1930s, trendy academics and administrators did it for Hitler even at Harvard or at New York’s Columbia University.
As for Stalin, Mao and their successors, excusing suppression of speech was the least of it. There was hardly a Western university that didn’t justify, minimize, or apologize for mass murder as long as it was Marxist-inspired. If the battle of Waterloo was won on the playing fields of Eton, America’s campuses played a starring role in the loss of Saigon.
George Jonas
http://www.nationalpost.com/m/news/blog.html?b=fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2011/11/02/george-jonas-the-sorry-state-of-free-speech-in-our-institutes-of-higher-learning
Despite getting two different undergraduate degrees in two different decades and being fairly involved in student politics at the time, I still do not understand what the purpose of student unions are. I cannot think of a single service they provided that was of any use to the student body, or that couldn't have been provided better by an independent organization.
“This year my team and I are striving to ensure there are open and accessible debates on issues that matter to students.”
That matter to students? Ummmmm. What about fairness for students who don't want what the majority want? What about female students who think abortion should be the female's choice? Wnat about the WASPs?
This guys quote is just more leftard socialist PCness to cover his unions sorry butt.
It's been 35 years since my college days,but do student unions even talk to students anymore?
Once upon a time in the Middle Age universities, people were divided on if the earth was flat or round. That was diversity.
Now there is no debate and everybody agree that the earth is round. I think everybody would agree that's progress.
The fact that some topics are up to debate is not always a sign of diversity but is simply stupidity.
Dipper Frog Wrote:
That's rich coming from someone belonging to the political equivalent of the flat earth society.
We're in trouble when the leader of the free world, the sitting president, refuses to stand up for free speech.
The upside of this is that someone is noticing the outrageous state of affairs.
Of course Kate doesn't like university, she never went.
And yet, oddly enough, her logic and rhetoric are better than many university profs....
"Chad" raises an interesting point. I have no idea about Kate McMillan's formal education; she seems as well educated as most, with specialist knowledge in animal genetics, probably with formal training in commercial art. Mark Steyn has never gone to university, and for knowledge and understanding of contemporary politics he is unsurpassed. And, of course, David Warren, the finest Canadian essayist among conservatives (and I am prepared to remove that qualification) only completed Grade 10. But he kicked around the Middle East and Asia in his early prime, knows many things which are of practical importance, and is deeply learned in some areas of history and religion.
As for myself, I have had a fifty year association with four universities on two continents as undergrad, grad student, postdoc, and faculty member, and I never liked them much, beyond the contents of their libraries; and view the goings-on in Canadian and US universities now with contempt and dismay.
Dear Lil "Chad":
Is that you, Bill Stewart, Ph.D., in disguise? I'll never forget "Doctor" Stewart's insistence way back when that his opinions carried more weight than anyone else's because of his immense formal education. Talk about putting a large neon sign above one's head that reads "I-N-S-E-C-U-R-E"!!!
Oh wait, "Chad", you appear to be writing from Montreal. Oui, oui, dear Québec - home to more socialist ignoramuses per square centimetre than anywhere else in this country except, arguably, downtown Toronto.
Anyhow "Chad", your comment speaks volumes. I'm sorry that no one in your life views you as very intelligent, even after your degree(s). Perhaps one day, when you're very old you'll finally gain a little wisdom and realize that intelligence most often comes from many more places than academia. In fact, spending too much time in academia often has the opposite effect.
Socrates had no university degrees.
Where he to appear on today's university campus, I'm sure the "authorities" would give him the same choice, as did Athens, between banishment or drinking hemlock.
Again the charge would be "blasphemy", only this time against the god of Political Correctness.
Seeing the campus so bereft of respect for genuine intellectual discourse, I'm sure he'd choose banishment.
Then he'd start teaching Socratic dialogue in the nearest Tim Horton's.
Nothing so recommends the life on an autodidact as today's university Colleges of Humanities.
Universities are just an extension of the k-12 global socialist indoctrination. The mandate is to raise brainwashed automatons to give birth to or usher in, then police/enforce the political, social, and religious: shift, new birth, age of Aquarius, new order evolution,progressive evolvers, and/or all the other marketable terms used to mask global Marxism.
Found out reading the comments section of a school brainwashing article, that "Mayan Math" is now used to teach children to add and subtract (apparently they had no multiplication or division system). The extent at which the Mayan culture is not only taught, but held in hgh regard by the educational system is remarkable. All the new ager futurist, Gaia worshipers, et al, believe December 21, 2012, perhaps imperceptibly, but certainly will be the earths new-birthday. The day the earth is declared as being born again.
speaking of university
http://www.calamitiesofnature.com/archive/?c=222
Given that ANYBODY can get into university no matter how poor a scholar they are and that freedom of speech in universities these days means no pro-life or pro-Israel clubs can exist, the detractors of this particular thread might wish to revise their statements.
It's a mistake to think that intelligence and education have anything in common. Just like education and common sense have nothing in common. I know several people who are very well educated in their field of expertise and dumb as a stick outside of that field. Many degrees today are not worth their weight in toilet paper and Quebecois NDP separatiste at November 2, 2012 6:33 PM , he/she is a prime example of university failure. He/she can string a sentence together but the brainwashing has taken its toll in never questioning the garbage pumped into him/her since K-12. All the makings of a future professor. It's a vicious cycle.
Quebecois NDP separatiste @ 6:33 p.m.:
The problem is that political correctness is to the humanities what "the earth is flat" was to the sciences.
Universities are the great incubators of the left. Naive enthusiasm for what should be is misdirected by those with a politcal agenda.
What do you mean by 'critical thought'. That does not exist anymore. It is laughable that the leftard elite have less awareness of the real world than the 'rubes' they so gleefully denegrate.
If critical thought no longer exists then honest debate does not either. I recently engaged my 'eastern Canada' raised nephew (who now works in Calgary) in a political discussion about the USA election. He said Romney was no better than Bush and it would be a disaster if he was elected. When I asked him what he based this on and why he thought GWB was so bad he simply roled his eyes. He could not explain himself. This is not a stupid kid.
As an aside my nephew is studing neuro surgery at Foothills. He is agast at the wealth in Calgary and cannot understand the disparity between east and west. It does not make sense to him.
My point in all this is that my nephew represents the majority of Canada's university educated youth IMO. We as Canadians have stood by and let this happen.
max at November 2, 2012 5:32 PM "WRT student unions.. I'm not usually in favour of coercion, but one thing that could help is mandatory online voting at class registration time."
I must disagree. I answer is not more coercion, Lord knows the world has enough of that!. The answer is less. Stop coercive mandatory student union fess and make them voluntary and you will end Student Unions becoming advocacy groups for anything other than student issues. On that note end tenureship and make teaching positions performance based! Now there is a radical idea.