Y2Kyoto: If You Don't Believe In Global Warming

They should sue Al Gore for leading them along the delusional path that England would soon have a Mediterranean climate.

Wow, stunning. Bad weather in England.

Does this mean if it's hot in June and July on the eastern half of North America, it's not necessarily hot in the rest of the world? They may have to re jig the models again.

C'mon folks, its climate change. What's the over/under for days before the proponents of AGW in the MSM frame it that way?

An award-winning English winemaker

Whaaaaa?

I had to read that twice, "award winning English winemaker" ?

But, if they can pull it off and the choice is England or France.. :)
This will be forgotten by the greens while they continue their march to control your outcomes. Wine is for other classes.

One of the truly dimwitted aspects of AGWers is their assumption that warm weather is bad for plants. For individual species, that can be true.
For plants in total, quite the opposite. The end of the Mediaeval Warm Period, for example, was marked by a serious famine (the story of Hansel and Gretel
probably reflects the harsh conditions of that era).

The Botanical Garden in Leiden (NL) offers a good lesson in heat tolerance. One particular large greenhouse complex is kept at about 65 deg F;
it has an inner greenhouse, kept at about 85 deg F; and then the innermost greenhouse is kept at about 125 deg F. The hottest part is the most lush,
and it contains, or used to contain, a fine specimen of Victoria amazonica, a giant waterlily.

Heat is fine for plants.

I seem to remember reading that the Normans planted vinyards after the conquest in 1066.
Everything was fine during the medieval warm period but when the little ice age started in the 1300s the vines stopped producing grapes and England started importing wine.

It is only recently during the '80s and '90s that vinyards were started in England (and Eastern Ontario, BC, PEI). Now that the suns output is decreasing, those vinyards might not remain viable.

Yeah here's a flash....more old folks die in the UK during the winter of cold than ever die of heat.

But then they have to make a fuss over victims of urban heat island stuff during July....duh.

Way back when, before the french re-terra-formed Paris, it was untenable during the summer....cause it was a friggin' swamp.

Probably won an award for Best English Cabernet.
The competition wasn't steep.

Grapes grow in England?

I did not know that. I would've thought it to far north, and too cold in the winter.

I'd bet they don't grow very well there, even in good years. Short season, small fruit.

Just look through your whine glasses

"An Award winning English winemaker?" WTF are we talking about here? Miss Congiality?

Hansel and Gretal ?
harsh conditions? the way I remember the story it sounds like they had such a surplus they were building houses out of food.

All one has to do to blow the entire glow-bull warming desert song out of the water is look at a globe,. Most of the equator, (presumably the hottest area on the earth) is equatorial jungle, with a few exceptions in east Africa. Desertification is a construct of geography, not temperature. With the exception of arctic and antarctic deserts being cold deserts, with water being available, but frozen.

But, but, but ... they just had a summer of extreme drought and heat in the US corn belt and in the Southeast. Everyone knows that the world begins and ends in continental US which comprises a whole 2% of the eath's surface and therefore, AGW is a proven fact. BTW, on the Canadian share of the Great Plains, we had one of the most moderate summers and some of the best crops in living memory. I don't know how things were in northern Montana and North Dakota. Do you suppose that there was a sudden "nice weather cutoff" precisely at the 49th parallel? Hmmm.

Not to rub salt in anyone's wounds, but the BC Okanagan had a nice wet spring, followed by a hot and dry summer. Even the frosts have held off so far, so the grapes will be picked at sweet perfection.

Look for BC 2012 n starting next summer, and taste the good fortune that weather can bring.

@ John Lewis

Heat is fine for plants.

As is doubling the atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration.

John Lewis, you say it well. Dr. Fruitfly not so much.

Robert of Penticton, I am looking forward to tasting some. We always bring a few bottles of Okanogan wine home during our annual trip to Chilliwack.

Oh well, only a matter of time before wine is outlawed in England anyways...offensive to minorities, you see.

We're 'victims' of climate change here in Nanaimo too. One of the wettest, coldest springs on record followed by one of the warmest, driest summers - which is continuing into October.

We just smashed the existing record - 116 years - for lack of rain and I continue to enjoy my morning coffee on the back deck sans sweater. At 9am and it's 15C on October 10th, what's not to like?

Next year it'll be different yet again proving it true that the climate does indeed 'change'. The question is, who decides what is the 'perfect climate' for which we should risk the world's entire economy?

Label the swill under a different brand Than call it plonk, than sell than it to needy winos.
At least they would make some profit.

I believe grapes were originally introduced by the Romans around 0 BC. Hops are hardier, though, which is why beer is the national tipple. Supposedly the Vikings also grew grapes in Newfoundland during their settlement days. Never heard what the wine was like.

If you paid attention to the alarmists you would know that ALL bad weather is caused by global warming. All of it, even the record cold stuff.

Seriously!

Not to mention that the ice cover in Antarctica is at a record.