Or put it this way: Obama says it was an act of terrorism ... and then goes to a party in Vegas? That's their new story?
— Gabriel Malor (@gabrielmalor) October 17, 2012
From the transcript at the Rose Garden, Sept.12th: (link fixed)
The United States condemns in the strongest terms this outrageous and shocking attack. We're working with the government of Libya to secure our diplomats. I've also directed my administration to increase our security at diplomatic posts around the world. And make no mistake, we will work with the Libyan government to bring to justice the killers who attacked our people.Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence. None. The world must stand together to unequivocally reject these brutal acts.
Emphasis mine, Ms. Crowley.
Link broken.
wallyj has it in reader tips
First we (suffer an attack of)terror....THEN we party!!!
Couldn't watch it...sounds like Crowlwey won the debate?
Mitt Romney Wins Debate on Smooth Presidential Performance, Obama’s Ignorance
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/10/16/mitt-romney-wins-debate-on-smooth-presidential-performance-obama%E2%80%99s-ignorance/
Update: Candy Crowley really bailed Obama out on Libya. In fact, when she corrected Romney, she was wrong. It is outrageous that a reporter inserted herself into the debate to correct a candidate and was, herself, wrong on the facts. It is outrageous that she defended Obama on a point on which he was wrong. She turned one of the most important moments for one side and against another.
I wonder if Candy Crawley has been hired to replace Jay Carney. She sure rescued Obama on the bengaze mess.
Now all of CNN panel are defending Candy Crawley and Obama on his handling of Bengaze.
Obama became very strident on the Libya topic. A few more days of prodding should produce some interesting results.
WTF - I'm forbidden from viewing this page?!
What part of "President Obama you're a lying sack of sh1t" didn't Crowley understand? Just watched the Rose Garden speech (thanks wallyj in Reader Tips) and he never said 'terrorist attack'. She was told to keep her fat face shut - just couldn't do it. This a$$hole lies so often that he actually believes his own garbage. On a positive note, Chris Matthews seems to have soiled himself again.
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And of course, afterwards she concedes that she lied and covered for the Exalted One.
Media bias? That's a right-wing fabrication. {/leftist thinking}
They can argue that Obama wond the debate, but I'm guessing he'll be losing the fact checking portion after same way Biden did.
Candy backpedals after the debate, but still doesn't quote Obama correctly.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/10/16/cnns_candy_crowley_romney_was_actually_right_on_libya.html
Ms Crowley, This is what it looks like when the MSM puts its finger on the scale.
That Candy Cowley is a real piece of leftie size 40, protecting the liar, how can people like her live with knowing their actions are fraudulent. I feel for the families of the dead ambassador and the other GOOD men who were killed by the animals, they seem to be forgotten in this Kenyans zeal to keep the keys to the palace. Watching this exchange must have been very hard for those families.
Here's the transcript.
Crowley was prepared for that moment. There is no way that was just some random deal.
Obama is clearly nervous about this one -- both Clinton's admission of responsibility and his elaborate "When I was in the Rose Garden" -- designed to recast his actual words into something that was acknowledging terrorism. He looks phoney. I think whatever exchange this precipitates in the next debate will be very interesting indeed.
I think Krauthammer gives a good analysis in this transcript:
KRAUTHAMMER: I think it will be a problem for the White House. They have clearly told untruths, fictions. The president perpetrated them two weeks later on Letterman when he spoke about Libya in the context of the video when everybody knew it was not an issue at the time. So I think on the facts, on explaining Libya, yes, it's going do be a huge problem, but it will be a huge problem in a few days. Right now, in the context of the debate, I think he got away with it because there was no actual response at the time on the stage and when you had moderator meeting (intervening? ) in behalf of Obama, that I think swung it in a way that was basically incorrect and unfair.
Romney should DEMAND and get Ms. Crowley to publically apologize at the beginning of the next debate and that the apology is shown on all the channels.
She stepped out of her neutral role, told a complete lie, and should be called on it. If she does not want to, the head of the debate commission should make the public apology in her place. CNN should consider whether she continues her employment.
WHY? Set the standard and a Bright Red line in the sand. The next clown will think twice before opening their yap.
He said terror, not terrorISM. Big difference. Then the apology tour. Then the blackmailing of Hillary Clinton.
Obama is a lying jackhole.
The Blue Media doesn't even bother to put the mask on anymore.
bartinsky, to the left any lie, no matter how blatant, is considered truth if it advances the cause. This was one of Lenin's axioms.
Romney said Obama didn't call it an act of terror in his Rose Garden remarks.
Obama *did* call it an act of terror in his Rose Garden remarks.
The transcript says this. Crowley stated this fact.
Facts are facts. Romney was wrong.
Stop being sore losers, guys. It's embarrassing.
(And yes, Kate, The US has always been a nation that respects all faiths. Sorry you find that so offensive - was that your point in highlighting that portion of the speech? Wasn't sure)
I suggest you watch the video there joe conservative because Obama said no such thing.
In addition to what Obama said in the Rose Garden, here's US Ambassador to the UN Susan Rice commenting on the attack on the Benghazi consulate [ABC "This Week" interview]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma6pMrMOIQ8:
"... but our current best assessment, based on the information we have at present is that, in fact, what this began as, was a spontaneous, not a premeditated, response to what had transpired in Cairo. In Cairo, as you know, a few hours earlier there was a violent protest that was undertaken in reaction to this very offensive video that was disseminated. We believe that folks in Benghazi a small number of people came to the embassy ... or to the consulate rather ... to replicate the sort of challenge that was posed in Cairo and then as that unfolded, it seems to have been hijacked, let us say, by some individual clusters of extremists who came with heavier weapons, weapons that as you know, in the wake of the revolution in Libya, are quite common and accessible and it then evolved from there. We'll wait to see exactly what the [FBI] investigation finally confirms but that's the best information we have at present."
The interviewer mentions that Al-Qaida may have been involved, but Ms. Rice discounts that in her reply.
"No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done."
This is the quote from the Rose Garden remakes, James.
When he says 'acts of terror' what do you think he is referring to? Breakfast at Denny's or something?
Or...are you a liar, like Romney?
joe who?
joe who, learn to read with comprehension. Obama called it "senseless violence " and kept the movie theme for two weeks.
Later he does mention "acts of terror" but in a very general way, linked to 9/11.
Obama's speech to the U.N. assembly included “The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam." Susan Rice, U.S. ambassador to the U.N., was used by the Obama administration to blame the video (made by Coptic Christian immigrants from Egypt) for the Benghazi massacre. Rice, Hillary Clinton AND Obama implied that the video incited a protest which led to the violent deaths of Chris Stevens and the three Americans with him at the consulate.
Crowley flunked as a moderator.
Watch the video "joe"/LAS/dipper FLQ etc. He was talking about 9/11 2001 not Libya.
Crowley was wrong.
Obama used the word "terror" but in the context of the anniversary of the 2001 9/11. He had just finished talking about it, saying: "Of course, yesterday was already a painful day for our nation as we marked the solemn memory of the 9/11 attacks."
Two paragraphs later, Obama says:
"No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for." That is why Obama used the word "terror" NOT to characterize the attack on the Benghazi consulate.
Context is important.
"And yes, Kate, The US has always been a nation that respects all faiths. Sorry you find that so offensive - was that your point in highlighting that portion of the speech? Wasn't sure"
The emphasized text was Obama referencing the Muhammad video.
joe who, in which democratic people's republic do you live?
Aw, Gabby in QC, James, and WalterF still trying to extricate the pony from the pile of poopoo, huh, poor little babies?
If you wanna get all mealy-mouthed and faux technical about it guys, His mention of 'terror' comes 4 sentences after mentioning Benghazi...rather than 2 paragraph after 9-11.
In any case, any honest reading would be that he was including both acts under 'acts of terror'.
Not that you are interested in honesty...or facts.
You can't wait to defend a man who shamefully politicized the attack hours after it happened in dishonest, incompetent manner to boot. And who looks on 47% of the population as freeloaders. Real Presidential material.
Now leave off trying to defend the indefensible and go to sleep. You're makin' me cry.
So joe, why is Crowley now saying after the debate that she was wrong?
james @ 12.28 ... exactly. It's as though, she had discussed which points would be brought up tonight.
B. Hussien flew to Las Vegas the day after the terrorist attack at Benghazi, Libya... Priorities, what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas...
"...a man who shamefully politicized the attack..."
Doesn't an terrorist attack on an embassy in which four people including an ambassador are murdered kind of come pre-politicized, joe? How could it have been dealt with in a non-political way?
You guys need to give these talking points a little more thought.
http://nation.foxnews.com/frank-luntz/2012/10/16/watch-undecided-voters-react-romney-obama-round-2-live-only-fox-nation-tonight
Luntz Focus Group Swings to Romney, Accusing Obama of 'Bull-Sh***ing'
If you go to the following focus group clip, one fellow out and out accuses Obama of 'bullsh*ting' on Lybia.
People are paying attention to the fact that they are being grossly lied to regarding Lybia. I think the American voter will 'get it'.
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mojoe, you should do some research as to who knew what and when. The administration was spinning from the start even though the facts were almost immediately available online. So it's the politicizing by the Obama administration that cost four US lives and wasted two weeks by misdirecting blame. That's what Romney and the rest of us are angry about. But you're still stonewalling and that is what's going to cost you the election.
Kulak Ken
You're saying that Crowley is now saying that "acts of terror" wasn't included in the Rose Garden remarks?
"acts of terror" was included, but based on the context of the two weeks preceding and following, had to refer to the movie trailer.
Keep posting joe, Libya is an issue that needs more light and some stirring on your part sure helps.
"acts of terror" was included, but based on the context of the two weeks preceding and following, had to refer to the movie trailer.
Keep posting joe, Libya is an issue that needs more light and some stirring on your part sure helps.
Oh yes, WalterF, I'm sure Mitt Romney completely agrees! ;)
"Crowley was prepared for that moment. There is no way that was just some random deal." James
The question & Obama's answer was rehearsed; like several other questions that some folk's were obviously provided by the Producers. Crowley is an asshole CNN creep that is 100% in the bag for Progressives. This will be the LAST Presidential debate that should be controlled by the media. An independent Production MUST replace this nonsense.
Media Corruption taints the 2012 Election because you can't un-ring that Bell sounded by Crowley.
Mitt's other Points
1. The Auto industry was put into Bankruptcy by Obama, the Bond Holders/ Shareholders all lost everything. The Judge was Corrupt that awarded GM
to the Unions. The Obama team have been labeling Mitt for wanting Bankruptcy, like they didn't.
2. The reduction in ALL Federal (Drilling) permits. Obama lied, EPA out of control
3. The EU/UN killed our Ambassador & Obama partied in Vegas. What a lying Bastard
He waited until after the UN Meeting before admitting it was a terrorist Act. WHY?
joe con
whenI have a flat tire on the truck, it is only flat on the bottom side, so I guess it's only "partly" flat:-))))
All of us sometimes forget that the Democrats still do not believe that there was a terrorists attack on 9/11.
(President Bush and the Republicans were guilty of an inside job.)
These clowns still embrace Islamic fundamentalism and know they are a religion of peace and would never harm us.
That Malor tweet really -is- the quote of the week. Talk about encapsulation.
"Acts of terror" is the definition of "terrorism". The term and the word are synonymous. There is no quibble - the discussion is/was about "terrorism".
"Crowley was prepared for that moment. There is no way that was just some random deal." James
Funny,
I felt the same way about Obama.
He said,
"Go on Governor, keep talking"
like he knew what Candy was going to do.
Its like he knew Candy was going to plug for him.
Maybe she was closer to Obama than just during the debate?