Y2Kyoto: I'll Miss The Polar Ice Caps

Oh noes! The Southern Ocean will become paved over with ice, and Australia and New Zealand invaded by vast armies of vampire penguins.

C'mon they are journalists. They can't be expected to be able to think, do math or even basic arithmetic, or understand science.

They are journalists, there to regurgitate frantic press releases from hysterical eco greenie nutteers who will say anything to keep the scam alive.

It's interesting because the Arctic and Greenland do appear to be melting somewhat. This is perfect. Arctic melt won't increase sea levels at all while Antarctic freezing will lower them. A thawed Arctic is easier to drill and otherwise exploit! Yeah!

And that would include NNW. That site has this article :

http://m.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/climate-change-blamed-as-arctic-sea-ice-melts-to-all-time-low/article4555852/?service=mobile

Up, but not the one you link to here.

Amazing! You lunkheads are still in severe denial about global warming. Pay attention how the ice is shrinking and thinning in the Artic. It's scary.

Hate to be a pessimist but the arctic is at an all time low!!!

So we are in my opinion no better or worse than we ever worse we are right smack dab in the middle and to me that is perfect.

Kinda like if your hair is on fire , and your sitting bare ass on a block of ice , on average you feel pretty good!!!!

Right ?

Lol.

It's all a big joke to me who cares if there is no ice or if the whole north and south poles are frozen solid .

What can I do ? Nothing! What am I willing to do ?Nothing! I want to live my life and if I freeze to death or drown who cares!!

Regardless of where one stands on the issues surrounding "man-made GW", it's not the MSM's prerogative to cherry-pick news stories to report and in that process taking those such as this one and choosing not to run them. That's an indefensible position for them to take. Are they in the business of reporting changes to the environment or only those changes that suit certain vested interests?

The MSM can't very well argue that when they face criticism for hiding news stories from Canadians that that criticism is subjective and opinion-based and thus should be disregarded. A story is either reported on or it's not. There's no exused.

And because nothing gets past the newsrooms of the establishment media -- feeds to all stories, both big and small, coming in by the millisecond -- there choice to not report it clearly demonstrates how dishonest they truly are and, more shockingly, something they're not only completely aware of but have chosen not to take any actions to remedy, knowing that by making that choice they chip away at their own claims of objectivity with each passing day.

"NPR failed to mention anywhere in its article that Antarctic sea ice has been growing since satellites first began measuring the ice 33 years ago and the sea ice has been above the 33-year average throughout 2012...Amusingly, page after page of Google News results for Antarctic sea ice record show links to news articles breathlessly spreading fear and warning of calamity because Arctic sea ice recently set a 33-year low."

What irks me is the fact that The Great Arctic Melt, and the Great Antarctic Freeze, is based on a 33 year satellite temperature record. This is rarely. 33 years. Records based on such a small time frame are meaningless. Climate Change Cultist who trumpet this like it means imminent doom should be mocked as Young Earth Warmers. Even Young Earth Creationists allow for 6000 years of planetary history and they freely admit their belief is based on faith.

This is rarely "mentioned".

canuckguy...you forgot the /sarc.

And the c in Arctic.

What irks me is the fact that The Great Arctic Melt, and the Great Antarctic Freeze, is based on a 33 year satellite temperature record.

Actually, it's more than that. Except in recent years, we know the Arctic has been frozen solid even in summer for at least 200 years, probably much more.

Attempts to cross the NW passage in the 19th century all failed, the most notorious being the doomed Franklin expedition.

Amundsen (of South Pole conqueror fame) needed 3 years in 1906; closer to us, the St. Roch needed 28 months, and 3 summers in 1940-42 (which alone utterly debunks the nonsense spouted by AGW skeptic Prof. Christy, who claimed similar thaws occurred at that time, and should have known better).

Nowadays dozens of ships, including sailboats, cross the passage every summer, and some crews did it without seeing enough ice to fix a margarita.

So, something is going on, and it is unusual.

Ya green neck it's called global warming ........not man made global warming .....huge difference .

One implicates humans for the murder of mother Gia , the other may have something to do with that big ball of fire in the sky called the sun!!!

Paul in Calgary, "It's all a big joke to me who cares if there is no ice or if the whole north and south poles are frozen solid." This might be true, except for the fact that the Warmistas want to pile more regulations on you and tax the daylights out of you, and if possible drive you into a cave somewhere.

There is lots of ice thickness variability in the Arctic over the short, medium and long term. Courtesy of WUWT, here is a few pictures and articles. Although to the Young Earth Warmer...1958 is myth conjured up by Gaia deniers and the submarine in the open water was probably manufactured that phony first step of the moon walk.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/26/ice-at-the-north-pole-in-1958-not-so-thick/

Can anyone tell me how much ice was in the Arctic during the Roman warm period when the temperature was 1 to 1.5 degrees warmer than now ?

Just wait and a few months from now we'll have stories of starving penguins in Antarctica because of the increased ice, and, it will all be our fault. I predict that N. America will be blamed for locally warming the Arctic and sending all of that moisture south where it threatens the penguins.

The one thing you need to know is that everything bad that happens is due to the evils of capitalism and the only thing that can save the world is redistribution of the wealth from filthy capitalists to union members and party apparatchiks.

Actually, it's more than that. Except in recent years, we know the Arctic has been frozen solid even in summer for at least 200 years, probably much more.

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So, something is going on, and it is unusual.
Posted by: GreenNeck at September 20, 2012 9:27 PM
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Horsefeathers! I recall seeing government reports from the 1930's talking about all the open water in the arctic. Not only that, I've seen newspaper articles from the 19th century talking about how wonderful it was that melting arctic ice made navigation up there possible.

Plus the well known fact that the climate was much warmer during the medieval warming, the Roman warming, the Minoan warming and most of the holocene. Unusual? If anything is unusual it's the colder climate of the Little Ice Age from which we are just warming up. We're just getting back to normal.

GreenNeck:

What was the significance of St Roch?

First vessel to complete the Northwest Passage in one season (1944), also making it the first to use the more northerly, deeper route and to complete the Passage in both directions

http://www.vancouvermaritimemuseum.com/page216.htm

What I find most amusing is the lemming-like obsession with which the warmists are dealing with the melting Arctic ice: it MUST be that our Global Warming(TM) is real and it MUST be our fault, even when, a pointed out, the Antarctic is cooling significantly, and none - I repeat none - of the beloved computer models upon which the Global Warming(TM) scam was based upon predicted a rise in temperatures in the high Arctic but a decrease in the Antarctic ( http://www.sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/polarwarming.htm ).

So the models themselves are useless, and all we're left with the observation that, gee, the Artic is melting, but our records don't go back far enough and in sufficient detail to tell us if this cyclical or a unique phenomenon, and the Antartic is cooling for reasons we still don't understand.

Currently, no amount of taxation or Green self-flagellation is going to have any impact on changes occuring in the Arctic. If I were a betting man, I'd hold off buying that prime Nunavut farmland.

Phobias are good --- for psychiatrists and insurance companies.

If you are worried about increasing Carbon Dioxide --- a trace atmospheric gas --- levels in the air, buy carbophobia insurance. If one is worried about rising sea levels, buy hydrophobia insurance.

@Justthinkin:
Hmmm, I think YOU are being sarcastic.

@ setyoufree:
Yes, nitpicker, 'Arctic' not 'Artic', I stand corrected.

As usual, the world is a more complex place than the average conservative mind can comprehend. In short, yes, the sea ice around the Antarctic is growing. But the ice on land is shrinking at a rate that far surpasses any growth at sea. Overall, the Antarctic ocean is warming at a rate faster than the other oceans. But hey, keep grasping at those straws.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/2008/apr/global.html#seaice

http://www.skepticalscience.com/antarctica-gaining-ice-intermediate.htm