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Instead of these grovelling gestures and false apologies, why not just beg not to be bombed? I think that's what they really mean.

Okay,I agree this film defamed the Prophet.

So, I call on President Obama to nuke Hollywood in retaliation for all the offended Muslims everywhere.

For appearances sake, guys named Schultz shouldn't be arguing for censorship.

This film is actually beneath consideration.
That they are wasting time tripping and falling over themselves in a rush to condemn it shows at what level we should value their "leadership".

I condemn the morally and intellectualy challenged culture that feels that violent reactionary tantrums are gaining them any respect with normal well adjusted people (no I'm not talking about nutless politicos or the demented PC fringe)

The whole Film issue is part of a United Nations “Teaching” initiative, it is a Hollywood Fraud planned & executed by the hate America Scum EU/UN

The Demonstration @ our Embassy in Egypt was a US State Dept & UN Coordinated fraud (Demonstrators were paid & Marines were not @the Walls). This was the Kick-off of the Anti-Muslin Crusade by the US State Dept & the UN against the US 1st amendment. The US State Dept is guilty of acts of treason. Hillary Clinton betrayed America.

The Terrorist attack in Libya was not part of the US State Plan (They are Just Stupid), but the United Nations played a role in the Murder of our Ambassador

The UN Ambassador Susan Rice went on the Sunday 16th TV rounds and bald faced Lied to America. Did Hillary Clinton order her to lie, or was it Obama!

Susan Rice & Hillary MUST be fired ASAP. The UN investigated for the Theft of Missiles in Libya & the Murder of the investigating Marines.

The US Media are the Enemy of America; they will pay a price for their betrayal.

The EU are Scum

Now, now....remember they are in close proximity to the site where Theo Van Gogh was fatally stabbed....it's simply fear/preservation...

He who feeds the crocodile.....

Quite honestly, I could care less about the life of Mohamad, but I do believe that he answered the same call of Satan that Jesus rejected in The Temptation.

‘All this can be yours if only you follow me.'

If only Muhamad and Satan's extreme followers would care about the sanctity of others' lives.

The so called prophet mohammad, was a pedophile.

He's dead by the way...

Who would follow a prophet that promises death?

The prophet Mohamed (piss be upon him), was little more than a criminal in search of loot and women (and kids). He knew that Roman Civ was weak willed and soft, so with the help of the Persians, he and his.followers and successors were able conquer civillized lands and cut off trade with Europe. Sound familiar?

So Jesus said love, peace, do good to others and the left condem him for it.

Mohammed says hate, death, kill (and btw its all your fault) and the left love him for it.

Can't see why this is a problem?

Did mohamed really exist?

Certain poster here is allowed way too many links.

Once I put three links in a post. The post was blown off into nothingness never to be seen.
Have no problem with that, it is the prerogative of Ms. Kate what will be posted.

How is it though that this character is allowed to do that.

Would it be, so as not to make him feel bad?

Is it because of his religion?

I know, he may complain to the HRC that he is hard done by.

Well, whatever.

prophet mohamd respect women and their right and free them step at a time with his method............

Soooo,

Nonie Darwish lived for thirty years in a majority Muslim nation. Everything about her life family, sexuality, hygiene, business, banking, contracts, economics, politics, social issues, everything was dictated by the Islamic law code known as Sharia.
But Sharia isn't staying in majority Muslim nations. Darwish now lives in the West and brings a warning; the goal of radical Islam is to bring Sharia law to your country. If that happens, the fabric of Western law and liberty will be ripped in two. Under Sharia law:
A woman can be beaten for talking to men who are not her relatives and flogged for not wearing a headdress

Daughters, sisters, and wives can be legally killed by the men in their family

Non-Muslims can be beheaded, and their Muslim killers will not receive the death penalty

Certain kinds of child molestation are allowed

The husband of a "rebellious" wife can deny her medical care or place her under house arrest

Think it can't happen? In 2008, England once the seat of Western liberty and now the home of many Muslim immigrants declared that Sharia courts in Britain have the force of law.

When Muslim populations reach as little as 1 or 2 percent, says Darwish, they begin making demands of the larger community, such as foot-level faucets for washing before praying in public schools, businesses, and airports. "Airports in Kansas City, Phoenix, and Indianapolis are among those who have already installed foot baths for Muslim cab drivers," writes Darwish.

These demands test how far Westerners will go in accommodating the Muslim minority. How far will they push? The Organization of the Islamic Conference works to Islamize international human rights laws and apply Sharia "standards" for blasphemy to all nations. The penalty for blasphemy?
Death.
Weaving personal experience together with extensive documentation and research, Darwish exposes the facts and reveals the global threat posed by Sharia law. Anyone concerned about Western rights and liberties ignores her warning and analysis at their peril.

GO READ HER BOOK!

Set you Free at 2:03 AM Thank you for that reference. I am in my 50's and have not re-read the Bible in 15 years and have only read the Coran once thru about 20 years ago after reading Mary Boyles book on Zoroastrianism ( and in reaction to my anger over Salmon Rushdie and the old old enemy of imperial Persia), what I remember of the kkoran is fear, paranoia, and psychosis. I will now try to reread that translation... 20 minutes later I cannot find my copy ( lower right hand side of my up stair book case, or as I imagined or misremembered its place, it is there somewhere). If I cannot find it do you have a suggestion for a good translation of the Hamitic language of prehistoric 10C Arabic KKKoranic rehashed apologia of their cowering prophet in a cave cursing barking dogs?
Allah was on his side of course; as he was later to genocide his enemies, and happily for him; not see all his own seed extinguished. Green turban strips; Ha Ha Charade You Are!
Sincerely,
Robert Albin
Southwiew
Calgary Alberta Canada

Let me finish that sentence for you.

"humiliating the feelings of people all over the world...

...and they are using it as an excuse to murder innocent folks."

Notice the vernacular the liberal media and politicians are using, enflame Muslims, pour oil on the fire, insult Islam, provoke them, somewhere along the line western cowards decided to blame the victims of Islamic savagry on the victims whilst absolving millions of bearded violent freaks of any blame. I have yet to see Eurbia ask Muslim nations to stop the slaughter of Christians. We are being government by craven phucking cowards, I heard Baird snivel the usual drivel this morning via don't enflame them

After watching the slow collapse of the EU why would anyone pay any heed to what some beaurocrate from the EU says? They have proven themselves to be as stupid as rocks.

Remember Benazir Bhutto, the most prominent Muslim woman in recent history. The killed her. They will always kill her type. After all, it is a death cult.

YES WE CAN. Yes we can.

Remember when our neo-liberal moral superiors assured us that there was no longer any room in enlightened thought for the concept evil? (Maybe it was before your time.) Evil, we were assured, was nothing more than a difference we, with our own mere prejudices, disapproved of, since nothing could be genuinely evil, or genuinely good, for that matter. It's all relative, man.

Well, how's that moral relativism workin' out for ya? Among other things, it's got you the "leader" (I know, and I'm as sorry about it as you are.) of the western world apologizing for (and therefore assuming responsibility for), any offense the muzzies may take at anything western. Translation: he's handed them a trump card. What could possibly go wrong?

Let's call a spade a "spade". These people are savages. They will not stop until they've killed you, or subordinated you. There can be no living with them. How much more evidence of these objective truths do we need?

Fix bayonets!

Daniel Greenfield (Sultan Knish) has the best take on all this. First you decide to keel people (mostly your fellow Mohamedans, burn stuff and destroy infrastructure) on the 11th anniversary of 9/11 THEN you search for the EXCUSE, and there's always an excuse readily at hand.

I shouldn't be shocked but I notice the CBC radio news refers to all the violence as a reaction to the "film" (which no one saw) as a simple matter of fact and also that they use the phrase THE PROPHET. Not Islam's prophet, or the muslim prophet, or the "alleged prophet" which I'd prefer.

Islam hurts allot more "people’s feelings around the world" than this film ever could, and the EU/ UN encourages them at every step.

Why should anyone take the EU/ UN seriously? At the very least admit that they do not have your best interests at heart.

I strongly condemn all euroweinies and leftie media for trying to destroy our freedom of speech, capitalist free enterprise, individual rights and our Profit (peace be upon it).

This would be the hardearned Profit (pbui) from taxpayers which is confiscated in taxes and sent to fund this crap in the form of foreign aid.

Firstly, you deserve an award for that post title. Does Pulitzer do that?

Secondly, I now cannot get that song out of my head. Damn you!

Free speech is very inconvenient for big kahunas in Europe. This tells me all I need to know about them.

This film would never have made it on the Islamic radar had the western MSM and politicians made it so.

There should be investigations and criminal trials for all western news outlets along with politicians who knowingly spread inflammatory material to whip up violence on the west, using Islam as their weapon.

This was the Liberal Media and Liberal Progressives attack on the west.

They whipped up the gorilla by teasing and poking it through the cage bars, and then they stood back while opening the cage door so that it could run amok in our communities.

After the savagery displayed by Islam. The World wide killings. Its treatment of Women. Its destruction of Monuments.Even killing people in bloody horror with Mutilation. A doctrine that's say they can't enter the heavenly sex club without murder. A prophet that raped young girls, A thief that encouraged slavery. The World grovels at its feet.OF this nightmare of a cult devoted to inhumanity & against even music.

You can bet none of these paragons on their bellies would do this for any other Religion. Particularly Christianity or Judaism which they loath.

Just proves what Joshua said:

John 8:44
You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has nothing to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Muslim rage in Europe knows no bounds

http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/photo-gallery-femen-opens-foreign-office-in-paris-fotostrecke-87582-tablet.html

Rev,

Couldn't agree more wholeheartedly!

You will know them by their love.

You can tell what kind of tree they are by their fruit.

Many within the Muslim faith are looking to believe in God with all their heart. They are passionate about what they read and hear(however twisted and hateful it is). The fruit of what the book and the messenger that they are following is evident in their actions and speech.

If only the followers of Jesus would be as passionate, then they would love their neighbour as themselves, heal the sick, look after the widows and orphans, visit and bring hope to those in prison, preach the Good News of Jesus, and live a quiet and humble life.

new, or OK, or whatever her current handle may be, is right. mohammed did not marry Aisha when she was nine. He married her when she was but six, but being the gentleman he was, he didn't violate her until she was nine, and "all growed up". /

new, to borrow an observation of Mark Steyn's, if it's the Western world that's so decadent and sex obsessed, how come you're the ones who picture heaven as a brothel?

(I do not of course actually expect poor new to understand this. Consider it a sort of general point.)

glacierman

Christians have. It was an English Christian that stopped slavery. All our Universities, libraries, schools where Christian run. Taken over by the Government. Including orphanages (which aren't needed to day, because we kill the babies in wombs). Including s charities where christian run. All taken over with welfare, by a secular government seeking to run all.
Most folks today are astounded that even Harvard was a Christian institution at one time. With healthcare went our Hospitals. The Government took over school by using universal standards. Made it illegal to teach Religion.
Every-time we set up something for the poor, even homeless, the government uses rules to shut us down. No matter what denomination.
Take the food banks. Welfare took them over as well. This is why you don't see Christian institutions anymore. Christians have no right to help anyone. We have been legislated out of existance.

The screaming nutbars calling for the murder and decapitations of someone thousands of miles away who insulted their religion insist that it's entirely a theological issue. Whenever we frame the issue in the same terms we're just joining in their dance and pulling at the other end of the same rope.

With all due respect to Christians, whose values are obviously formative to, and deeply embedded in, the moral and cultural foundations of the west, what's being ceded - tossed away -- by the official western idiots like Clinton, Obama, European parliament speaker Martin Shultz, and many, many others isn't the primacy of Christianity but the our hard-fought western freedom, the endlessly variegated fruits of which include the freedom to believe in any religion or to not believe in any religion, and to criticize and disrespect any religion, including Christianity.

In the west we absolutely must allow for criticism and debate about anything and everything. The inability of Islamists to comprehend and acknowledge our freedom is their problem, not ours, and we must make this entirely clear, not only to them, but to the soft-headed progressive idiots in the west.

What's going on right now isn't about the Koran versus the bible, or whether Jesus could beat Muhammad in a wrestling match, it's about freedom of speech. It's the most important freedom because, as Ezra pointed out (I doubt he's the first) if we lose other important freedoms we will have no chance of getting them back unless we have free speech.

EBD

In the west we absolutely must allow for criticism and debate about anything and everything. The inability of Islamists to comprehend and acknowledge our freedom is their problem, not ours, and we must make this entirely clear, not only to them, but to the soft-headed progressive idiots in the west.

I agree entirely. My point to Glacierman is that in the West Christianity has been made almost illegal to do any good.

Christians from a NT point of view believe in Natural Law as well as spiritual Laws. That conversion is an individual choice that is cancelled, or of no effect if not made by choice.

God believes in Free will, & we should abide by His choices as well.

That debate on all issues including Religions, strengthens us as a society. Bully cultures as ours have become by rabid ideologues, weakens our options for positive change . Including correction. Men are only Men, we make mistakes. Only by confronting ourselves can we elucidate the good ideas from the bad. The wrong ideas from the ones that work.

Humankind should be able to live in security of person. If only because of the fact they may be the only one who sees flaws, where all others conform.Foe real progress against conformity.

"My point...is that in the West Christianity has been made almost illegal to do any good."

I completely agree, Revnant. The rabidly secular left, whose only faith is in an all-powerful state overseen by all-knowing progressives, have been encroaching on, and diminishing the value of Christianity wherever they can; from (effectively) forcing Christians to fund abortions, to making them pay for birth control, to prohibiting and practically demonizing public expressions of Christianity, whether at the workplace, at football games, etc. etc., they seem to be on a mission to supplant not only Christianity but other foundational values, including freedom of speech, in the interest of lauding the value of the exotic 'other.'

As you noted, debate on all issues strengthens us, but the left is trying to not only enforce their own "you can't say that!" rules but to enforce their proscriptions on behalf of emotionally incontinent, semi-illiterates half a world away.

"Bully culture", as you aptly put it.

Btw, my preceding comment wasn't in response to yours, I was rather addressing a tendency I've noticed (on many other sites) to frame this freedom of speech issue in theological terms, and by so doing make it seem like a battle between Jesus and Muhammad instead of what it really is: our right to our own culture.

None of this uproar in Europe has anything to do with Islam.

No really, bear with me.

Islamic agitators are not different than any other kind. They push and push to see how much "give" there is in the authorities. In Europe right now they can't find anything to push on, because the authorities are retreating faster than the agitators can run.

This is not a new thing. This started with the student uprisings in the 1960's and has continued unabated. Euroweenies have a general strike every other week, burn hundreds of cars, and generally do whatever the hell they like.

This is really about the refusal of European governments to keep the peace. Some guy prints a cartoon in a -normal- society, if anybody starts preaching that the cartoonist must die, preacherboy gets jail time. In Europe they jail the cartoonist.

Wow, that's a lot of crap to excuse pedophilia!

By their actions you will know them.

I think we know them very well.

OK,

Have you read the Bible? That it is the Book which predicates your Koran? If you had, you would see that your book is a very poorly and twisted revision of what the Ancient Texts say. The history of Creation, Moses and Abraham are examples of markedly different accounts. As your Writ states, there is a responsibility of all Muslims to make sure the Ancient Texts are not changed or tampered, but your own Koran has done the very thing which you are commanded not to do. Truth is truth, it cannot be changed or revised. If it is, it ceases to be truth. You cannot have it both ways.

Please do a comparison and then settle in your own spirit, heart and mind which it is that you would prefer to believe and what may or may not have happened.

OK,

Then what do you think of the very different versions of what is written in the Bible and the Koran?

One is truth, one is not.

That is what you have not stated. Either you are believing the truth or a lie.