Hey, @mattyglesias - where do you live? I'd like to check over your furniture and see if there's anything I like. #mythofownership
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Matt's head must be spinning...
He'll be calling you greedy in 3,2,1....
yes of course
just as the internet existed before we invented computers
Careful, Kate, Yglesias graduated magna cum laude from Harvard. That makes him a genius.
Two engineering students were biking across campus when one
commented, "Where did you get such a great bike?"
The second engineer replied, "Well, I was walking along yesterday,
minding my own business, when a beautiful woman rode up on this bike,
threw it to the ground, took off all her clothes and said,
"Take what you want."
The first engineer nodded approvingly and said,
"Good choice; the clothes probably wouldn't fit you anyway."
The analogy is wrong. Redistribution occurs at the taxation level.
QNDP...did you just get it?
Okay qs, I'll give the prime minister a call and we can arrange the he tax your furniture away and redistribute it to ... Me.
Is there anything Yglesias and Quebeckie have that we might like?
No, I bet they have poor taste!
Dibs on his stereo.
Property does exist prior to The State, and if you disagree I suggest you go find a Neandethal and try to take his stone tools away.
This is a jerk who tweeted something nasty about Andrew Breitbart immediately after his death. If you want a laugh go to Amazon and read the reviews for his book "The Rent is Too Damn High" (a sequence of words which originally belonged to some other guy as his catchphrase before Matt redistributed it to himself).
Ace's moron horde took unkindly to the Breitbart comment.
Communism is alive and well.
Okay Kate, The last time I shot milk out of my noise was in grade 5.
at 5:23
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2jQ_wY5F8A&feature=related
Oh well...back to the cave...
Dibs on his hunting rifle.. oh silly me..
Dibs on his Lada.
The wife wants his Trabant.
You didn't build that. You didn't write that. You didn't film that. You didn't paint that. You didn't compose that. Property includes intellectual property. I am waiting for writers and journalists to cleanse themselves of the copyright putrefaction and redistribute their work to one and all sans copyright. Hollywood will follow suit shortly thereafter, opening it's first file sharing site to ensure fair and equitable distribution of it's non-property properties.
I should have added #mythofcopyright
Wee Matty probably missed the work by John Locke, on which the Founding Fathers of the USA relied so much in creating the USA. "The "labour" of his body and the "work" of his hands, we may say, are properly his. Whatsoever, then, he removes out of the state that Nature hath provided and left it in, he hath mixed his labour with it, and joined to it something that is his own, and thereby makes it his property. It being by him removed from the common state Nature placed it in, it hath by this labour something annexed to it that excludes the common right of other men. (Book II, § 26)
Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/08/the_last_line_of_defense_property.html#ixzz26uj0zfoX You find much of what Wee Matty and Others of That Ilk believe firmly entrenched in Municipal Governments in Canada via UN Agenda 21 and incorporated under Green Communism locally known as Sustainability.
Beautiful.
Guess Yglesias never heard of (hyper)inflation.
Gotta love these liberal economists and their economic perpetual motion machines -- we'll print more money and everyone will use it to buy the stuff they want without anyone going out and actually producing any of those real goods and services anyone needs or wants in the first place. We'll "create" government jobs. Sure, like people can eat the committee reports from the department of administrative affairs, live in the paperwork from the department of redistribution and heat it all with the blather emitted by the department of social affairs, taking their vacations in the committee rooms of the department of forward (as opposed to backward) planning. Idiots!
RFB, nice quote from Locke. But that's exactly what Obama did, with his 'you didn't build that' assertion.
He removed the value of your work and skills and 'smarts' from the product. He said, 'everyone works hard, everyone is smart' and thus, by generalizing this input as common to everyone even those who didn't do the work, he reduced it to having no value. The result of your work doesn't belong to you because that work is as common and natural as Nature itself.
Funny how the envirocomms see no reason why Old MacDonald shouldn't hand over his forest and fields for 'the public good', but balk when given the opportunity to assign the equity in their backyards to the common good.
"Hey, @mattyglesias - where do you live? I'd like to check over your furniture and see if there's anything I like"
He'd be OK with that Kate, because at the same time, he would be at a more successful person's house checking out their furniture.
Again: Harvard has the best pot...
I would also like to know where @mattyglesias lives so when his new iphone 5 comes... well he can give it to me. LOL
Can anyone say Transfer Payments?
That's the last I need is a Marxit's furniture. They still use cider blocks and wood planks thinking something that's so 1970s is still cool.
Offer to take away his prepaid Starbucks card and you might solicit the feet stamping, thumb sucking and cries of "not fair" your trying to get out of him!
Proof again that he was educated into imbecility. This world would be way better off with less universities and more trades people.
I'd like the Fed Gov't to redistribute Quebec to the ROC... All four Maritimes and Atlantic provinces would benefit from a larger tax base which would pay for the huge costs of four provincial governments, which are currently being paid for by a combined population of 2 million people + ROC. So four provincial gov't gain a larger tax base and Canada loses the provincial gov't of Quebec. It's a win-win for everybody...especially the inhabitants of Quebec as there would be no more fear of separation EVER.
What an over-educated idiot. The concept of individual property has existed since the first time someone said "this is my fire/club/cave/meal/animalskin...etc" and when they said "you can warm yourself at my fire if you do this for me" the free market was created.
Mr Yglesias looks a bit chubby, obviously he's been eating more than his fair share of food. Perhaps his Frappucinos and biscotti should be redistributed to someone else and he should be given a bowl of lentils instead, in the name of fairness, you understand.
Personally I think it comes down to "time". Nobody has a rightful claim to your time without mutual consemt. You exchange your time for capital and since your time is your own the capital can only be wholly owned by your self. Wealth redistribution is the ownership of your time without consent. So it is nothing more than modern slavery.
I love it when Lefties come right out and say the truth about what they really think. It happens so seldom...
...and no wonder! mythofownership BWAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!!
Writing from Germany: „Redistribution" was in the core of the Nazi-Ideology. It brought the support of the working class. Hitler invented the modern welfarestate, implementing health-care-systems, pensions schemes and other benefits – already before the war. The state was broke immediatly. And for the furniture-example: The jews that were killed in the KZs or flew out of Germany were totally robbed and had of course to leave their houses and furniture to the nazis. Public „Auctions" of the furniture the jews had to leave behind were very popular in Germany between 1933 an 1944. There is a great book by Götz Aly, title „Der Volksstaat". You can read it all there. He did great research. The mainstream historical scientists in Germany never cared for that motive.
James Poulos makes an EXCELENT point down at the bottom of the twitlist: "False assumption of #mythofownership crowd: property is originally material. In fact what we're 1st able to own is our word."
I was going to say people own their bodies first, but that's not always true. Slavery is the condition where somebody else owns your body and your labor. A condition familiar to tax paying Canadians.
However, even slaves and prisoners own their word. They can give it and keep it as they will, regardless of compulsion. Compelled "promises" are not your word.
This is one of those core concepts that Lefties can't admit.
BTW I frickin' hate Twitter. Its -stupid-.
Thanks for the Locke quote, RFB and the exegesis ET (and I do believe that's the first time I ever typed that word and it's right!).
Chicken-Egg. Remotely related:
Alexander Hamilton et al argued that the UNION of the states happened before the states existed. Seriously. And this argument over time won out!
As diLorenzo (author of Hamilton's Curse) points out, this is like saying the marriage between John and Mary preceded the existence of John and Mary.
Again, remotely related, another fallacy is that government gave society money whereas of course we all know that it arose spontaneously as a readily exchangeable commodity that long-preceded government's tampering.
I love this dilusional leftie's musing about private property pre=existing the state. This is an accepted tenet of natural and common law but by and large commies and the various shades of left are lawless in their statecraft and philosophies - they belive in situational rule of law - it's a relativist construct.
Commies and their various siblings - collectivists, socialists, communitarians etc. spend their lives trying to justify or obfuscate the core element of their ideology - which is theft.
Yes boys and girls, no matter how you try to rationalize it, post modern statist leftism is about theft of private property by the state - and in practical application this system concentrates wealth and power in an even smaller elite cabal that a corrupt crony capitalist system.
But of course if you can lie to your better instincts (if you have any) and convince yourself that stealing people's hard earned property and productivity so a idle political class can prosper from these avails of theft, is a virtuous moral act, well then, you have the properly corrupted values to accept dystopian state rule and you can call yourself a "committed socialist".
That's the whole problem with my country, we have been infiltrated by the best and the brightest from Yale, Harvard and Princeton. I mean comon, if you are paying $100,000 a year in tuition are they really gone fail you ?
I'd say I'd like a look at pill's stuff, but he probably doesn't have decent tools or anything. W@nker Lefties never do. Strictly Canadian Tire.
Ummm what about us folks who have had our land since before there was a "state" eh?
Our family received it's land from the monarch for services rendered in the war of 1812. ( basicaly didn't want those troublesome irish to come back, employment et all was pretty shaky since that short french guy was defeated and they had more ticked off testosterone on the streets already from those soldiers coming home.)
Ummm what about us folks who have had our land since before there was a "state" eh?
Our family received it's land from the monarch for services rendered in the war of 1812. ( basicaly didn't want those troublesome irish to come back, employment et all was pretty shaky since that short french guy was defeated and they had more ticked off testosterone on the streets already from those soldiers coming home.)
Lord love a duck, I was sure I only pressed the dang post button once, once I tells ya.......sigh...
(sigh) How can a guy get paid so much to write such drivel?
In primitive societies, the biggest, strongest guy generally took what he wanted - food, women, fur. But, as weapon technology advanced, a group of smaller guys banded together and stopped the bigger guys from taking their stuff. ALL of our concepts of state and government is derived from that one founding moment, which was people agreeing to act together to defend both their private and communal property.
Now excuse me while I go eat my racist PB&J.
I'm starting to theorize that Matt and many of his peers were mothered by eager Le Leche adherents who nursed their offspring far beyond the point where the brain develops the first rudimentary skills of expressing a desire for something and working toward achieving that goal. They just whimpered and a boob was shoved in their mouth.
Hey Phil, if you hate welfare bum farmers so much why don't you boycott their product? You would be one of those entitled asses that think food should be free?
KevinB, your first image of 'the big strong guy taking what he wanted' isn't representative of any society. No society at any time in man's history could function like that. BUT, asocial aberrations such as gangs, cults and dictatorships operate like that.
me no dhimmi, heh, Hamilton's claim sets up some kind of a priori metaphysical essential determinism (yes, I think all those words are required for the explanation)..to the Union of the States. Very platonic and postmodern - for 'essentialist Forces' are big in postmodernism.
I think that private property begins with the finite existence of any material thing.
That singular material existence is 'private' because it is particular; its existence is limited to its material reality both spatial and temporal.
So,when I work on myself (material caring for myself, becoming educated), I don't belong to the State. I belong to me. And when I work on something outside of myself 'in nature', either physical or conceptual work, the result is ..mine.
Who is out of touch with the American public again?
Matt, can I redistribute a few bottles of that stuff? I am having a party this weekend. Thanks.
Has anyone heard of a competent person coming out of Harvard in the last generation? Even physics there isn't so much any more. Princeton, yes; but Harvard seems to specialise in mindwarp.
I first suspected this in an argument online about 20 years ago with some "History of Science" types, about whether the Nazis had been good for science
(with minor qualifications they WEREN'T). These two female dweebs argued the opposite. Finally when I pointed out a few little things
(Heisenberg in fear of his life, the closing out of the mathematics school at Goettingen), they just said, "but we're at Harvard."
Back then I didn't make obscene remarks to females.
ET said: "So,when I work on myself (material caring for myself, becoming educated), I don't belong to the State. I belong to me."
ET, you're such a radical.
The analogy is wrong. Redistribution occurs at the taxation level.
End quote:
Tell that to Christians in Muslims lands who are run out of their homes so the Islamofascists can steal their property. Tell that to the victims of Darfur and Al-shitebage who want to steal all their property and resources.