'Denial' is More than Just a River in Egypt ... in the MSM Echo Chamber

Pravda (the truth), Trud (labour), Izvestia (the news), and Bednota (Red Army and peasants distribution)also thought they were objective newspapers.

The Russian people thought otherwise and quipped "In the Truth there is no news, and in the News there is no truth)"

Truth be known, taken from Wiki.

Its nice they think that anyone believes them.

What nonsense. The first person asked makes extremely general, unsubstantiated comment about past conservative bias, ie backing GOP presidential candidates (oh really?), then demands specificity from the questioner.

A perfect example of how to obfuscate.

The black guy is a bit of a condescending prick. The white guys are simply ignorant and sensitive of the obvious. Denial.

Most liberals conceive the truth to be whatever the MSM tells them. If you tell a lie often enough, it becomes the truth. As evidence I present....tadah......the global warming scam. In days past, research would have uncovered the scam long before it was published as fact and fed to the sheeple. Those days are in the past. Today we have outright lies, spin, and personal opinion masquerading as fact. Or just follow the money as in the IPCC. Lies saturated with fright or guilt to force acceptance by a gullible public. The new order is in force.

And for your entertainment, a little song about lies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaxRjfXZsdU&feature=fvst

Sam Donaldson, the first white guy that's queried, is still "smarting" from being put in his place by President Ronald Reagan:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRUbwnkEPqc

(22 seconds...)

Again with the condescending dismissive pat on the shoulder. Check out Stephanopoulos with the same move on the same question! Wow... there must have been a memo.

http://www.bloviatingzeppelin.net/archives/3676

the questioner is a babe in the woods. He got schooled.

Really who, with half a brain these days, even listens to the these types of bottom feeders? I have not watched TV nor read newspapers for some time now other than segments posted online from time to time. That's not to say that a large broad swath of society doesn't get their opinion from these sources. I certainly don't anymore.

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And it is not bias per se that is the problem. It is the denial by most of the MSM on the left that they are biased, meanwhile most on the right are upfront about it.

Long range this cover-up of bias will continue to erode the credibilty of those who do not admit bias even more than it has already. Just look at polling on how much respect journos have today and you can see that they have a problem.

Finally, contrary to the black man being interviewed's (he's a high profile guy in the dem world - i just can't remember his name - and a very smart articulate guy (and i don't mean that in the condescending way that Joe biden did referring to obama a few years ago) opinion, Rush and Hannity are journalists. They are also opinion makers. But make no mistake, they do research and interview with a goal of getting to the fact of the matter.

And they do it far better than Maddow and Matthews et al on the left and they have reaped monster audiences as a result. The gentelmen's assertion that they aren't journos is just a way of trying to put them on a less authoritative plane than say, Brokaw or Couric or 95% of the white house press corps.

Saw Don Lemon "interview" Debbie Wasserman Liar Shultz on CNN today..about the controversey she created over her denial she said Rep.party was 'bad for Isreal'...she blathered on and on,denied that she was a 'distraction' to the Dems.Lemon's response? Oh...ok! Talk about tough interview.

Gord (9:18), I thought the guy did a good job, or at least, if he was schooled, or thwarted, that it had a good result. It's easier for people like Roland Martin to make themselves sound good when they're making rote points in a half-joking tone during a back-and-forth argument (if they're on Bill Maher, for example, these "points" will be met with smug, everybody-knows laughter and applause) than when they're allowed to…go on.

"It is not bias per se that is the problem. It is the denial by most of the MSM on the left that they are biased, meanwhile most on the right are upfront about it."

I completely agree, and IMO the longer Martin was allowed to talk uninterrupted the more his eely bias became apparent. He was asked an utterly straightforward, unambiguous and quite obviously topical (to the public) question -- "In 2008, do you think the coverage was as fair to John McCain as it was to Barack Obama?" -- and he *ran* from it, all high-stepping-like, by digressing into semantics and obfuscation, and moving the goalposts, always to the other end of the field. He acted like the interviewer was missing some larger, profounder, endlessly variegated truth, one apparently taught at Belt Parkway Community College.

The good thing is that instead of watching an argument/debate, we got to watch the nature of the problem. The more they talk, the better it is.

This is why I cancelled my Shaw Satelite TV system.
Best $90/month I've saved.
Listening to politicians try to answer a simple question from anybody that is NOT bought and paid for gives me indigestion.
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From Peterj September 09,2012 8:32pm-

"Most liberals conceive the truth to be whatever the MSM tells them. If you tell a lie often enough, it becomes the truth. As evidence I present....tadah......the global warming scam. In days past, research would have uncovered the scam long before it was published as fact and fed to the sheeple. Those days are in the past. Today we have outright lies, spin, and personal opinion masquerading as fact. Or just follow the money as in the IPCC. Lies saturated with fright or guilt to force acceptance by a gullible public. The new order is in force."

Heads-up for the following a.m. eastern time at www.cfra.com

"8:10- David Solway, author of "Global Warming: Trials of an Unsettled Science" and Fred Litwin of the The Free Thinking Film Society."

WOW!!! The link posted by the guy above@ 9:07pm (THANKS! btw) spotlights the most smug condescension by a member of the MSM I can ever recall having witnessed! Unbelievable!

I thought that Scarborough gave away more than he meant to. Look at where the networks are based. Look at where their reporters and top management live. They report from a cocoon because they live in a cocoon. Obfuscation is their "shibboleth", it's so ingrained in how folks in their areas think and work that they don't notice how far off of the "normal" path they are.

"8:10- David Solway, author of "Global Warming: Trials of an Unsettled Science" and Fred Litwin of the The Free Thinking Film Society."
Posted by: MadMacs of Bytown at September 10, 2012 7:44 AM

Correction re source info-

"Global Warning: Trials of an Unsettled Science"

http://www.cfra.com/chum_audio/David-Soloway-Sept10.mp3

Yea, I don't listen to white people at all anymore. Unless their black their opinions don't count.

That's why people should be forced to mute the white opinions on most of these opinion "news" programs until the obligatory black man/ woman come on to settle the issue with the final word at the end.

I'm wondering if they are speaking as "journolists" or as delegates to the DNC?

The one thing that came across loud and clear in that video is that these scribblers and TV face men, really think they are in a small exclusive club - a small insider, politically connected qlique of presige and privilege which allows them to talk down to us and form our opinions for us. (Note Donaldson's patronizing gestures towards the lowly alternative media surf)

"Our moral and intellectual sueriors" is just a cabal of elitist partisans pretending to be objective populists.

I'm not sure he was schooled in the sense that I infer from Gord Tulk's comment.

However, the schooling he should have gotten from this episode is the utter silliness in posing the question in the first place.

Notice the black cat's skilful rhetoric. His answering questions with his own questions pretending that he wanted to refine the terminology in order to have a sincere exchange.

The question is TOO BROAD. It's red meat to master obfuscators like the black cat.

This would be a good clip to save for conservatives/libertarians of a younger age who persist in believing that a real conversation can be had with these liberal robots.

Sam Donaldson, now there is a real journalist! I recall watching him in an exclusive interview with Margaret Thatcher, (how he got it is a mystery)near the end of her career. In the few moments he had left, he asked her reaction to the Tonya Harding and Nancy Kerrigan imbroglio. (As I recall the one was accused of having others try to break the leg of her competitor). Lady Thatcher looked confused at first and then when it dawned on her what he was babbling on about, she told him she didn't think his listeners would be interested in her view of the matter! Donaldson sat there with a silly grin on his face, his head moving from side to side, totally unaware of his own asininity.

"So tell me, Mr. Courtesy, did you spend the Bush 2 years calling him 'President Bush'?"

@ MadMacs of Bytown at September 10, 2012 8:46 AM

Good link and very interesting. Thaanks

Sam Donaldson looked like a nut in that little clip. The black guy was just doing a typical lefty troll maneuver: "I'm going to pretend I don't know what you're talking about and lawyer you to death."

Really hate it when people do stuff like that. Total @sscl0wns the lot of them.

The Phantom - I thought that Roland Martin actually answered pretty well. He clearly outmanouevered the young guy with the microphone.

I'm always disappointed with these "Hey watch these lefties get beaten up!" clips - quite often at the end I'm thinking man, what I saw was the right wing guy being beaten up by a more experienced guy or woman.

Erik Larsen said: "He [Martin] clearly outmanouevered the young guy with the microphone."

Disagree Eric. He revealed himself to be a rules-lawyering blowhard, and in doing so played right into microphone guy's hands. When asked a perfectly straightforward question Martin attempts to escape the well known and obvious truth of the assertion with verbal aggression and debating tricks. As did Donaldson and Scarborough, just not as loud or as long.

Life is not a courtroom, behaving as if it is makes those guys look like the partisan dorks that they are.