"This is a momentous day for the game of golf and sports in general. It’s like the Berlin Wall of discrimination finally coming down in golf."
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Traditionally golf was a fortress of solitude for the American oligarchy/gentry - none of the wrong type of people allowed but that fortress tumbled some time ago, so this newsie is a tad late on the story. Frankly, golf as a spectator sport is like watching paint dry, maybe they need to make this crap up just to inject some kind of excotement into it.
Actually, for those like Brian Williams, this is more of a victory than the fall of the Berlin Wall.
Here we have a privately owned club giving into politically correct nonsense to make the constant media and agenda driven bad publicity go away.
Cheers,
The Worm
As an ex member of an all male fly fishing club that opened up it's membership to women.
"SUCK ERRRRRRRRS!"
Political correctness wins yet again. It is really as simple as that.
I hope, when Obama hits up Rice for an invitation to play a round, that she says no to the Golfer in Chief.
YOu know your movement ( and I use that phrase correctly) is well past it's prime when:
your latest "victory" is getting women into a snooty club, for the worlds most boring activity since the paint drying observation games of 1502, for the uber rich, conected by blood lines, folks that have previously denied entry to Bill Gates, golf club.
Big frickin deal, can we now go on to more important matters like the poor women that are being sold into sexual slavery, marriage by their families? The women that are forced to have abortions because the fetus is just a female? Can we help those women that are beaten for showing a bit of ankle? Aren't allowed to go out of their home except with a male relative? That are not being educated because they are just sexual objects that cook and clean and service their mates?
Noooooooo, I guess not, they have their priorities straight, Moooooo.
So....of course men will also be allowed to join ladies tournaments and do interviews in the ladies locker rooms afterwards, no ? In the name of equality I see no problem with that.
You just knew this was coming: Now the left is HIGHLY critical of the Condi (who IS an avid golfer) pick saying that ZERO-accomplishment, jumped-up, affirmative-action Queen Michelle Baby should have been nominated instead..
Our long national nightmare is over........ yippee...
Dianne and Gary Heavin's...Tear down this wall!
In fact, the company’s unofficial motto became “no makeup, no men, and no mirrors.”
http://www.curves.com/about-curves/history.php
Mark Steyn: Howell Raines at the 19th Hole
Ten years after they were first attacked and protested. I wonder how long the protests delayed the acceptance of the first woman member?
Dianne and Gary Heavin's...Tear down this wall!
In fact, the company’s unofficial motto became “no makeup, no men, and no mirrors.”
http://www.curves.com/about-curves/history.php
Dianne and Gary Heavin's...Tear down this wall!
In fact, the company’s unofficial motto became “no makeup, no men, and no mirrors.”
http://www.curves.com/about-curves/history.php
I'd care but then there are women's only courses here in Canada so I guess discrimination is only bad when it affects women. Women are allowed private clubs but men aren't. True equality in action.
Yes, I'm sure we all remember the iconic image of aspiring female golfers mowed down by the massed machine-gun fire of the entrenched old white guy establishment as the ladies tried desperately to fend off the bullets with their mashie-niblicks and struggled to climb the barbed wire in their unfashionably snug Burberry skirts.
And who can forget the images of the great Augusta Airlift, delivering hundreds of tons of sports drinks, sunscreen, divot tools and pink-ribboned Titleists to the throngs of would-be Michelle Wies huddled together for warmth around the blazing oil drums in the parking lot?
We should all fall to our knees and give thanks unto the Almighty that, like European fascism and European communism, the last great scourge of the past century - the bloody plague of men's-only golf, that starved millions to death, left battlefields strewn with nameless dead, wrecked whole countries, and left a continent in ruins - has at last been justly consigned to the ash-heap of history. Tam-o-shanters and plus-fours for all!
oops..not sure what happened there...
This better mean I can get a Membership at Curves now... After all those years of being regected...
Rejected... Maybe They don't let me in because I can't spell
The right of association is certainly protected, as is the right of specific association. Those who raise a hue and cry over various golf establishments being "men only" should raise the same hue and cry over the NAACP being only for African-Americans, LULAC being only for Hispanics, NOW being only for women, etc.
If I want to start a club whose membership is limited to transgender Inuit lawyers, no one should complain, because there's nothing oreventing any other group from forming their own association, with a membership which includes transgender Inuit lawyers. The basic idea is that individuals have a right to associate with one another on whatever terms they choose, and no one can deny them that right. Claims about discrimination are moot; any "club", by definition, has a limited membership which discriminates in some way.
I'd like to see what the reaction would be if a bearded, mustachioed individual walked into NOW headquarters claiming to be a woman born in a male body. Any speculation as to how much understanding and caring would be forthcoming?
It's just golf, for Christ's sake.
Now that this has been settled, let's look at the unconscionable discrimination against dwarves in the NBA. Why should little people be denied an opportunity to have one of those high-paying sports jobs?
Mark I think it is largely about jealousy. The special interest groups always want to take what others have. The gays want to take marriage. The feminists want to take everything men have. The affirmative action crowd wants to take jobs. The left wants to take education and own it. Etc.
The takers never want to do anything themselves. They only want to take what others have. They are driven purely by jealousy.
"My cup is empty right now and it’s like the Irish potato famine of coffee drinking."
This is my new breakfast table catch phrase....
Missing headline: "Rich, powerful, elitist club invites even more rich, powerful elites to join them."
Forget the Berlin Wall. This is the Emancipation Proclamation, the Magna Carta, D-Day, and Charlie Brown kicking the football all in one.
" It’s like the Berlin Wall of discrimination finally coming down in golf."
Does this mean that the course marshalls can't be shooting at the ones that sneak onto the course ?
Mark:
I don't know what golf clubs for women you wrote about specifically, but the most famous one in Canada I know of is the Ladies Golf Club of Toronto. For many years, they have admitted male members; they don't have full privileges, but they are members. You may be writing of some other club.
And my considered opinion, after four decades on the links, is that the people who sneer at it as 'boring' and 'like watching paint dry' SUCK at golf.
Golf is the only sport I can think of, besides baseball, that actually inspires literature. From the humour of Wodehouse and Jenkins through the essays of H.W. Wind, John Updike, and Haultain, golf is its own muse.
I love hockey; was there ever a great hockey novel? I like football; Brian's Song and Rudy were good movies, but not good books. Only baseball - another sport dismissed as boring - has a literary track record to match golf. And I suggest that's because of the deliberate pace of both games. Hockey, football, basketball all move too quickly to allow contemplation.
Golf and baseball's slower rhythms give one time for introspection, to ask questions, to experience doubt. So many great pitchers have said their biggest opponent was their selves; so many golfers have to battle demons. In reaction sports like hockey, you don't have to time to think; you just do. It's when you have the time to think that self-doubt creeps in.
Look at Tiger Woods. He still crushes the ball, he still hits precise irons, but he doesn't score the way he used to. Where his putts used to scurry in the hole, now they stop just short, or die to low side. That's not a result of his sore knee or ankle or whatever; that's a crisis of confidence for someone who used to brim with it. Losing your wife, kids, sponsors, and the respect of millions can do that to you. Golf exposes the inner man in a way that other sports do not.
If you can't see it, or appreciate it, it's your loss, but decrying the game is nothing more than sour grapes.
KevinB,someone once told me that golf is difficult because you have to relax and concentrate at the same time.
I've got the relaxing part down,but the concentration part,not so much.
@ KevinB at August 21, 2012 9:02 PM
I most certainly agree with you. Anyone that says golf sucks has either never tried it or they found it too difficult to bother with. Not a team sport and you are your greatest opponent. Most golf courses offer tranquility, scenery and exercise wrapped up in a few hours of leaving your cares behind you while beating the snot out of a defiant little white ball with a mind of its own. Easy to learn but most people never master it. I agree 100% that decrying the game is sour grapes. It's fun and affordable once you get out of the city. Doubt if there's a town in canada south of the 60th parallel N that doesn't have a golf course.