If you thought that America finally got the whole "First Black President™" thing out of its system, think again: according to Oscar-winning actor Morgan Freeman, this one doesn't count.
"First thing that always pops into my head regarding our president is that all of the people who are setting up this barrier for him ... they just conveniently forget that Barack had a mama, and she was white — very white American, Kansas, middle of America. There was no argument about who he is or what he is. America's first black president hasn't arisen yet. He's not America's first black president — he's America's first mixed-race president."
The second thing that pops into Freeman's head is that the not-really-black President is nonetheless entitled to a performance-exemption:
"He is being purposely, purposely thwarted by the Republican Party, who started out at the beginning of his tenure by saying, 'We are going to do whatever is necessary to make sure that he's only going to serve one term.' That means they will not cooperate with him on anything. So to say he's ineffective is a misappropriation of the facts."
Once upon a time I had a lotta respect for Freeman when he opined the best way to deal with race was to jus' stop talkin' 'bout it....
Then he started to channel Jackson and Sharpton....
So Morgan is saying Americans have their first 'mulatto' President. Well hells bells that is a prima facie racist statement...
If people have a problem with the "Obama-Nation(tm) maybe their problem is his policies and their implementation.
Maybe they don't care whether he is pink, brown, yellow, or off-white black...for God's sake dummy up!
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The average black American already has something like 20% European genes, so Obama's mixed background hardly makes him an outsider in black America. I predicted in 2008 that as the disaster of his policies became impossible to ignore, we would suddenly start hearing about his whiteness and reminders that he isn't an "authentic" black. Sometimes it can be so depressing to be right.
Darn but those Republicans are powerful. They were the minority party in the House and the Senate and they still managed to thwart Obama's first 2 years. Well, except for that ObamaCareTax thingy.
Freeman...I thought Joos were a smart people, now I'ma startin to wonder!!!!!
Its funny that the only people that care whether Obama is black, white or an off shade of brownish tan are the Democrats, the liberal left. Right thinking conservatives just want somebody who can get the job done.Here in Canada we are constantly being reminded of someone's colour or ethnicity by the CBC or some other left wing lame stream media. The conservatives I know just don't care. Competency means something, colour doesn't mean anything.
*Exactly*, BDFT.
BDFT:
The conservatives I know just don't care. Competency means something, colour doesn't mean anything.
I agree with you, but there's a lot here who don't. I suggest you read yesterday's unemployment thread.
Poor President Obama! What would an Affirmative Action program for President's be? Getting rid of Congress? Poor little fella, how can we help raise'em up? More praise in newspapers perhaps?
"He is being purposely, purposely thwarted by the Republican Party,"
Well,I have to agree here,when GW Bush was in Office,the Democrats and all their supporters were the very epitome of classy and co-operative with the Bush White House.
No,I can't think of a single negative remark regarding GWB by a single Democrat, not a one.
Morgan, I loved ya in "Shawshank",and "Unforgiven", but when it comes to politics,STFU.
Morgan freeman believes in a negro version of aryanism.
I guess all those years Rocking the Afro on the electric company had a serious deleterious effect on his mind. (he definitely looked very black-pantherish back in the day...
"He is being purposely, purposely thwarted by the Republican Party
Riiigggghhhhttttt. And just WTF is the opposition supposed to do in your leftard world,Freeman.As this goes on,the only racists I'm seeing are the left.(but then we all ready knew that about the DemocRATs and their peons)
Jimmy Carter was as bad. He started the whole Muslim loving charade, that ended in disaster. To say nothing of the economy he destroyed during his term.
He was not even close to being black. I despise Obama not for his skin color but incompetence, leftism mixed with anti-Americanism he grew up with.
His social policies are a tragedy that will turn the US into a second rate power.
KevinB (8:06): yeah, there's a lot of racists all over the world, of all colours, but I think it's entirely self-evident that the number of people who refused to vote for Obama in 2008 because he's black were far outnumbered by the people who voted for him *because he's black*. I don't believe for a second that a similarly unqualified white guy with Obama's history/CV (or lack thereof), carefully elided/fabricated past, and associations with known terrorists would ever have secured the nomination, let alone become president.
I'd like to see how Freeman would react to a slate with Herman Cain for President, Allen West for vice-president or Secretary of Defense, and Thomas Sowell for Secretary of the Treasury.
In fact, why isn't he bemoaning the fact that Herman Cain was eliminated early on?
Hmm...
"Barry O'Bama" - Black Irish?
If Ohara can be Japanese (per the old TV show) why not? Heck, my paternal great-grandfather used Black Irish on the basis his ship from Denmark stopped one night in Ireland.
"He is being purposely, purposely thwarted by the Republican Party."
I keep hearing this from the left. I have yet to understand what they're talking about.
BTW, Morgan Freeman's personal life make Woody Allen look like Jimmy Stewart. Look it up if you don't believe me.
John Lewis, I think we know how the African-American community (or most of them, and virtually all of their prominent 'spokespeople')would react if there was a black Republican president: they'd accuse him of being an Uncle Tom and a traitor to his race.
I don't give a damn if the next president is black , white or purple, as long as he/she is competent. the one thing I am certain of is if Obama was white there would be no chance for a second term as he could not run a hot dog stand without screwing it up. Morgan Freeman is entitled to his opinions as we all are. They have the same value as any other opinion. Nada.
Obama's problem is not that he is black, it's just that he is plain stupid.
EBD:
Don't understand how your comment was in any way related to what I posted, which wasn't at all concerned with who voted for Obama or why. As I noted last week, it's depressing when people reply to something they've imagined I've said.
I'm certain that if Obama was white, there was no chance for a first term, let alone a second.
I can't remember the mainstream (presumably) conservative pundit who wrote it in 2008 or thereabouts but one opined, like MissAnthropy at July 7, 2012 7:30 PM, that when Obama screwed up badly because he was in over his head (at best) and couldn't deliver on his hinted-at promises to American blacks, that black America would start saying Obama wasn't *really* black so they shouldn't be blamed for him.
And for Posted by: EBD at July 7, 2012 9:10 PM, what I intend saying to my liberal friend, luckily I've only got one (liberal friend that is, not just friend), is to attack Obama for his obvious incompetence (along with asking the friend to tell me who was running Congress in 2006 for Bush's last 2 years and Obama's first 2 years in case he blames the GOP) and say to him that President Hillary wouldn't have effed up so badly and might even have won in 2012 but the p.c. vote that got Obama nominated and elected has screwed his Dems for a long time to come and you shouldn't be defending him when he and his p.c. supporters screwed over Hillary so badly.
I don't like the president because he is black, simply because he is using that as a tool, and that tool is helping the ruination of a once proud country where many of my relatives live. Anyone that would use pond scum like Al Sharpton as an ally is reprehensible.
Morgan is right. It is not just the mixed-race thing, his life experience is very unlike that of most Blacks in the US. His father was an African -- rather than coming from slave ancestry. It might seem like splitting hairs, but I think it makes a difference. Obama is a Chicago elitist -- rather than someone who legitimately reflects the Black American experience. Unfortunately, Blacks and Whites have both been had.
LindaL makes a good point about Freeman's point. It is kind of right in a way.
This is very interesting insofar as statements go.
The guy with the statement is a very good actor, has made a number of very, very good acting things in his carrier. Have deserved the highest of honors in so far as acting goes.
Why is it that he is screwing his acting reputation with talking shit like this.
I still like the guy as an actor. As a political pundit he sucks big time, it does not even mach common sense.
When you think about it, it does not have to, it's not part of reality, it's made up stuff, it's as though, acting.
@Peterj
Herman Cain eliminated himself, which to me was very sad. My wife and I, both the most whitest pasty sickly white folks you could imagine were rooting for that black mofo. He was doing everything right, he was well rounded, and the best part about him was that he NEVER EVER HELD OFFICE IN HIS LIFE !!!!
That is what America needs ...not some white or black elitist they a real true American, someone that started with sh!t nothing someone who was a pauper ..and what made Herman Cain even more attractive to us was that he was the son of a segregated limo driver who was not allowed to mix with the white folk but his parents knew (probably through the owners) that not all white people were slimy racist scumbags.
They probly thanked god everyday ya know prayed before meals and that stuff and probly taught him that there is good in bad and bad in good everywhere ya know like sin in the bible ya know.
And so he probly grew up believing in America and himself and god, and although he sinks it in the pink a few times out of his sinful lustful desires he was/is a good man and i would most certainly would rather he ran America than Romney or Obama and Allen West as vice prez fo sho mofo!! lol!! Sorry that all i gots for lingo bro!! lol. peace out homie g'night!!
Posted by: BDFT at July 7, 2012 7:52 PM
hit the nail on the head.
The "democrats", socialists, fascists and other 'ists are the new racists, they bring the subject up every time that it appears to suppor their narrative.
The masses will take it in without question what so ever.
From the link:
"Because I was not an alcoholic," Freeman said. "I guess Monte wasn't what you call an alcoholic; he just stayed drunk all the time. He was just, like, numbing himself. I suppose that's what I was doing when I was drinking too much. But I was working every day sober. I was just drinking too much every night."
No, dude that's alcoholism, from one to another
it's called going to work on the sick side of drunk, guzzling coffee all day, and diving back into the bottle the second you get off the job site. I did it 15 years, and once I had no work there was no reason to stop, that's called full-blown lucky you avoided that, (probably pop pills now,though) the disease never quits)
anyways, carry on
"The guy with the statement is a very good actor, has made a number of very, very good acting things in his carrier. Have deserved the highest of honors in so far as acting goes."
Actors basically "pretent" they are someone else. Freeman is simply carrying on that role by pretending he actually knows something.
Or the other theory, Mr. Freeman is that Obama is a complete failure. Ever think of that?
Although what can you expect from a useless actor who, in reality, produces NOTHING?
The less time he's at the office the less damage he can do.
Why is the rest of the black community continues to let their stupid cohorts constantly demonstrate they may not yet be ready for primetime? Its bad enough the half-caf POTUS sets a whacko agenda for them, without a plethora of high profile cheerleaders reinforcing the stupidity.
"rather than someone who legitimately reflects the Black American experience."
And which experience is that? Fathering kids all over the country, then leaving town? Incoherent in any known language, so babbling unitelligibly is urban jungle speak? Blaming whitey for their inability to get off their ass and make something of themselves? Or was that part of Obama due to his white ancestry rather than his black? As long as Democrats continue to define everything in terms of race and advantage, blacks, latinos, and many other groups will forever be the ghetto. Repubs got off that bus years ago, and they ALL left by the front door.
I wonder if Freeman picked these ideas up while filming "Invictus" in South Africa.
I can just imagine Freeman, Jan Smutts and Pik Botha having a heated agreement about race.
Anyway, I am glad that Freeman said it because I'd be a racist if I did.
As someone mentioned above, just what is the affirmative action plan he deserves....this only comes up when people like morgan talk in racial terms and then say he has been held back.
Honeatly does it mean constant litigating int he court to overce racial bias in congress. I can see the case now since the senate in particular is 99% white or is it 100%.
The troubling thing is obama is setting this up as a tiebreaker. Does that means if he wins again then congress should rollover? Despite what the results in congressional elections are?
All very troubling. I really do wonder what this guy plans for the first half of a second term. My bet right now is bill ayers gets a pardon this january regardless of result
Anyway, america needs the people to send a clear message to break deadlock, and right now that means single party control. Lets hope they do for at least two years.
Lev - 12:13 and nninio @ 8\;10 - I really can't understand this fascination of a person because they are "good actors"! Who cares? I was a good bodyman in my youth, so what? The fascination this generation has with celebrity is a sickness. Same with other performers: why should I care what Clooney or some rock-star or some airheaded bimbo or talk-show host thinks about anything?
Actors/entertainers have a job.
They tell stories.Written by,well,writers.
They 're famous,but nothing special.Same thing applies double to Bono.
Their delusional self importance shows up whenever there's a microphone in their faces. Nice that they have an opinion. But that's all it is.
Ie...hot air.
larben
I think we are having a heated agreement.
nninnio - Guess you're right - I recall Frank Zappa (of all people) saying that he knew a lot of rock stars and etc., and that most of them really weren't very bright, and that he didn't think we should put a lot of weight on anything they had to say about anything.
So let me get this right Ol' Morgie. If 'bama happened to be a bullshitting, incompetent white dickhead, you're saying the Republicans would stand aside and let him have a second term?
Alice Cooper (aka)Vincent Damon Furnier
Said the same "Musicians are stupid, I'm stupid why are you asking me for advice?"
"THINK FOR YOURSELF FOR ONCE"