Fine, Jail or Punt?

"Course, for the rest of us, Revenue Canada would just garnish our wages or something."

Of course....but all animals are equal...but.....

I don't want to comment on this, I don't need anyone knocking on the door tonight...

They should have their wages garnisheed and used to pay off the debts. They should also not be allowed to run for any federal seat or party leadership until the debt has been paid in full. This should be standard procedure for all future campaign debts.

I'm betting EC drops back five yards (announcement on a Friday before the Labour Day long weekend) and punts (nominal fine and absolution of any outstanding debt)

Any takers?

Since we are talking about Liberals before Elections Canada they will find a way to absolve them of all debt with a miniscule fine.

Is there some way we can fine and jail and punt don't only these diliquent leftards,but EC also?? And I'm talking at least 5 figure fines,3 digit days jail time,and one-way ticket to NORK.

EC's openly displayed dual standards are crying out for a reorganization of that watchdog. Fire the slackards who are blind to opposition breechs and remake RC as a true unbiased watch dog of election fairness.

Seeing how morbidly biased EC is towards NDP and LPC, I have to wonder what outright election crimes they have completely "forgotten".

Add EC, the CBC and CUPE to the list of corrupted public orhans in need of legislative retooling.

EC is just another in a long list of government bodies that got filled with liberal's friends and aquaintances as a form of patronage back in the 1990s. It will take a major effort to clean up that mess. Thanks, Chretien!

Is there anyone who still trusts anything Election Canada does? Honestly they are the most corrupt, bias and partisan Federal agency out there. There is only ine fix, same a Reagan did for Air control.... same as starting again with Blood Services. Come on Mr. Harper. Do the right thing.

As a now retired employee of Revenue Canada (AKA CRA) I can attest to the fact that MPs and former MPs are "hands off" when collecting funds owing to Her Majesty. One is told to just go through the motions but don't do anything that may upset them.
Only one of the many reasons I retired at the earliest opportunity.

If EC puts the hammer down does it mean the Elections Canada wing of the Liberal Party doesn't want Martha, Ken, Hedy, or Joe running against lil' Justin?

Or by absolving them would it mean the Elections Canada wing of the party isn't in the Justin camp, and want one or more of them in this race?

EC is spineless in applying the law 'equally'. They must be sea anemones.

Where is all that Liberal notion of 'equality before the law' now?

As for Revenue Canada don't get me started...

that would be a 'howler point' on the linear much f(Laughter) Laffer curve!

Cheers

Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief

1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”

Even when the Conservatives were legally correct when transferring funds like every other party, they got an elephant dump from Elections Canada for bad optics. Can't the incompetent fools be fired?

I don't think Election Canada spokesentity John Enright knows what the word "fulsome" means.

Gaylord @7:57 - well isn't that special for them.

Very.

If it says liberal, flush it.

What's to mull?

This is why people get fed up.

I'm not a lawyer and don't pretend to be one. This matter is quite simple - as are the individuals involved. There is a matter involving election law and another involving civil law.

The fine gets levied for the election matter. If the creditors really want to be paid - assuming they are actually still in business - they will have to sue them in civil court.

Send your cheque for post to................

"Fulsome".

Does this man not have an emoticon of a sense of how language works? It's not just that it's the wrong word; everything about the word is wrong. He meant "thorough" or "comprehensive", but he couldn't quite fish those words to the surface; in desperation, his mind lunged towards something skimming across the top which sounded like "fully"; sirens should have been going off in his head a paragraph before he got to "fulsome". The English language will occasionally attempt to f*(k with you, for sh*ts an giggles. Any half-way articulate person is aware of this. When an at-least-half-articlate person speaks in public, he speaks with this fact in mind.

If I was hiring a "spokesman", I'd hire someone who could speak the language fluently.

Say what you want, but at least Meghan McCain has big boobs going for her. Does John Enright? Enquiring minds, people. Enquiring minds.

EC, like the "Liberals" and the NDP are corrupt to the core! What will EC do with these "Liberal" deadbeats...? Nothing... other then perhaps absolving them of any fines or debt repayment... Now if it was a few Conservatives that wouldn't play by the rules and pay back the money they owe, EC would alert their comrades at the CBC and promptly leak any sensitive material to Maher and MacGregor, otherwise known as the dynamic dipshits. What a bloody farce! EC needs to be hosed out!!

EC: All Liberal All the Time.

@Black Mamba...Siren vs. Sirene..?...body language wise..?

Posted by: a different bob at July 5, 2012 10:27 PM ---"I'm not a lawyer and don't pretend to be one. This matter is quite simple - as are the individuals involved. There is a matter involving election law and another involving civil law.

The fine gets levied for the election matter. If the creditors really want to be paid - assuming they are actually still in business - they will have to sue them in civil court.

Send your cheque for post to................"

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The point is though that it was legal to borrow money for the campaign, but at some point when the loans are not paid back they become contributions, not loans.
The loans are supposed to be paid back in 18 months IIRC.
They have now changed status and are in fact contributions and over the contributions limits, if I understand this correctly.

And we all know how touchy Elections Canada is about that!

Here's a big surprise, CBC has nothing on their website about this.

Syncro - because we both revere Johnny, I have for you Fulsome Prison Blues.

I was going to attempt some tortured observation about how the gifters in question will never be in the big house, and therefore never be in a position to take in a Johnny Cash concert, because there's no justice in the world, and because Johnny's dead, but... eh....

The Liberal $650,000 was simply an over-contribution never meant to be paid back. Maybe it was hoped to be paid back but payback really was irrelevant to the process.

Overcontributions are something you only bitch to Conservatives about, somewhat repeatedly.

Nicely not-observed Mamba...thanks...

If I recall, when I read the act, the act is pretty clear about the penalty for overcontributions. Not to do Mr. Mayrand's job for him, but leveling a fine only kicks the outstanding loan into overcontribution status and forces Elections Canada to levy larger fines against the LPC.

Meh. Hard to get excited over non-enforcement of Canada's Byzantine election fundraising laws.

The federal bureaucracy is mostly a liberal creation (big or small L) and is fighting a rearguard action.

The federal bureaucracy is mostly a liberal creation (big or small L) and is fighting a rearguard action.

Oh I'm purdy sure EC will pat the liberals on the head and say there there dearies and then give them another extension?