Charty Goodness

Wow - At no point has CA's rate dropped below ND's peak of the 2008 crisis. Even at the worst of times in the 70's ND never broke 7%.

How about Canadians with "social justice" rather than terrific weather as a rationale?

California . . . a giant, festering self inflicted wound.

Amputation anyone?

Not quite, Captain. Many disagree because their nests are nicely feathered with other people's money and they can afford to enjoy the weather and not have to even make dinner, never mind their own entertainment. Taxes? Corruption? Unemployment? Want? Only people who have to work for a living have those problems. They'll tell each other how grand life is in the mainstream media until the plain people riot.

If they think life is grand, all it means is that they've had their reward.

I am crossposting this from Captain Capitalism.

I frequent "Carpe Diem" an economic blog where this sort of info often comes up. I strongly believe that the low North Dakota unemployment rate only catches a small part of the picture of how good ND is versus California. The North Dakota oil fields (and associated activities) have imported tens of thousands of workers who still legally reside in their home states. The North Dakota oil boom has directly lowered the unmemployment rates in other states-plus workers in factories in places like Ohio making pipe and so forth.

My point is that the national economic footprint of North Dakota is far larger than can be measured by unemployment statistics and so forth and is proportionately far larger than its small size.

Interestingly, South Dakota has the second lowest unemployment rate and an analysis of policies there VS California are a possible answer to liberal arguments here (MN) that ND is not comparable because of the geology.

Thanks for the link,DB. Is there a greater ass-kisser in all the MSM than Don Martin on a fellow Lefty?

Fred, I guess you'll just have to hope for the "big one".

California, what a paradise, in fact a liberal multicultural paradise.

You just need enough money to buy yourself a big fortress house in an armed gated community to avoid the liberally imported Mexican and soft on crime black gangs that rule the streets outside the gates of la la Land.

I could chose to be a benevolent Liberal ruler myself with enough money, security and arms. Those Californian Liberals that aren’t super rich are simply morons following someone else’s idealism fads.

When SHTF in California, the super rich pickup sticks and move to greener pastures as they are doing in droves lately.

I live in Oregon.

It's basically my duty to mock California and have schadenfreude at it.

This chart reminds me just how much the early 1980's sucked, and why. Two words, Jimmah Carter.

Barak Hussein Obama has now officially surpassed the previous World Record holder for suckage, the peanut farmer.

And friends, don't forget Carter wasn't even in office anymore when the 80's meltdown really hit hard. Barry has upped the suckosity quotient by a full order of magnitude over Jimmah by pulling off a full meltdown DURING his own administration.

Imagine what Year Two of Romney is going to look like, when the damage has had a chance to really frig things up for a while.

Knight 99 said: "You just need enough money to buy yourself a big fortress house in an armed gated community to avoid the liberally imported Mexican and soft on crime black gangs that rule the streets outside the gates of la la Land."

Oddly that's not really the case. The dirtbags don't actually leave their own dirtbag areas to do crime in the rich neighborhoods. I never understood that, but its true. They basically know their place and stay in it voluntarily like medieval serfs. Even the LA riots all took place in the crappy part of town, no rich white people got burned out.

Take a look at crime maps of LA and San Fran, the red spots are extremely localized. Rich people in California live in what looks like a standard suburb, its just that the houses all cost between one and three million bucks.

That situation is pretty stable. I expect it will remain that way unless/until the water and power get turned off one of these days. Should that occur it'll be Zombpocalypse time. Switch to full-auto, baby.

compare federal spending per capita

I have to agree with breaker morant on the effects of the oilfields extending far and wide. I know two people from eastern Ontario who flew out to High River, Alberta to work. On the flight out they met two more who live within ten miles of me, the big town near me is 3,000 people. Half their co-workers in Alberta were from the maritimes (those are the provinces north-east of Maine for you denizens of the USA). The welfare rolls in eastern Canada would have a lot more people on them without the oilfields.

Phantom, one of the reasons the early '80s sucked was that Reagan's tax cuts were to be implemented over a three-year period, thanks to the Democrats in congress. Businessmen and entrepreneurs had a choice, start or expand their business immediately and pay Carter-high taxes for the first year, which meant losing money, with the possibility of breaking even in the second or third year, or sit on their hands and money for three years and wait for Reagan's tax cuts to take effect. They chose to wait and that combined with the Jimmah hangover to create continued stagnation. It is the one thing Art Laffer admitted he would change if he did it again - he would implement the tax cuts immediately so business would not wait to expand.

Hopefully, Romney will win and have enough senators and house reps to implement immediate changes next January to avoid 'Taxmageddon'.

Could be a wider problem than just California. We expected nothing less from the showcase for the nanny state. The rest of the world doesn't look much better though.

http://business.financialpost.com/2012/06/25/is-this-1931-all-over-again-paul-krugman-nouriel-roubini-niall-ferguson-and-more-think-so/

At least Carter legalized homebrewing and deregulated airlines and stuff.

Is Cali's climate even that good? Just sounds so-so in the summer at least along the coast.

CALIFORNIA:

The Governor of California is jogging with his dog along a nature trail. A coyote jumps out and attacks the Governor's dog, then bites the
Governor:
1. The Governor starts to intervene, but reflects upon the movie "Bambi" and then realizes he should stop because the coyote is only doing what is natural.
2. He calls animal control. Animal Control captures the coyote and bills the State $200 testing it for diseases and $500 for relocating
it.
3. He calls a veterinarian. The vet collects the dead dog and bills the State $200 testing it for diseases.
4. The Governor goes to hospital and spends $3,500 getting checked for diseases from the coyote and on getting his bite wound bandaged.
5. The running trail gets shut down for 6 months while Fish & Game conducts a $100,000 survey to make sure the area is now free of dangerous animals.
6. The Governor spends $50,000 in state funds implementing a "coyote awareness program" for residents of the area.
7. The State Legislature spends $2 million to study how to better treat rabies and how to permanently eradicate the disease throughout the
world.
8. The Governor's security agent is fired for not stopping the attack. The State spends $150,000 to hire and train a new agent with additional special training re: the nature of coyotes.
9. PETA protests the coyote's relocation and files a $5 million suit against the State.

TEXAS :

The Governor of Texas is jogging with his dog along a nature trail. A coyote jumps out and attacks his dog.
1. The Governor shoots the coyote with his State-issued pistol and keeps jogging. The Governor has spent $0.50 on a .45 ACP hollow point cartridge.
2. The Buzzards eat the dead coyote.

And that is why California is BROKE and Texas is NOT.

Easy for you all to say...

But the weather is lovely here. Especially today.

The Phantom >

“The dirtbags don't actually leave their own dirtbag areas to do crime in the rich neighborhoods”

In a roundabout way it’s more or less what I was getting at. High security fences, surveillance, well trained dogs, security patrols along with well oiled state of the art equipment and firearms do tend to detract criminals from certain areas.

The point was, some can afford more and better than others. Those that can afford the best seem to be the most liberal trendy in CA – IMO.

@ Neo at June 26, 2012 6:57 PM

Great piece. People from California would never understand what the message was. Texans wouldn't even have to hear the message.

There was a time that I wanted to move to California as San Diego was quite nice in the early 1980's. This was when I lived in Vancouver but I began to realize that there appeared to be a steady stream of moonbats to the left coast on both sides of the border. The nice dry climate that San Diego has was available in the interior of BC (except this La Nina year) at considerably lower cost and with the added benefit of very few moonbats. Thus I left Vancouver and moved inland.

When TSHTF, I won't be stuck in a large city and will instead be in a far more defensible house than my Vancouver apartment with the advantage of knowing my neighbors are all armed. Don't have the ability to walk along the ocean daily if I want to now, but then being in a largely moonbat free zone more than makes up for this.

Knight99 said: "High security fences, surveillance, well trained dogs, security patrols along with well oiled state of the art equipment and firearms do tend to detract criminals from certain areas."

That's true, but in all seriousness "The Rich" in California really and truly don't have that stuff. They have what people in suburban Canada have. Nuttin'.

The dirtbags stay to their home areas -voluntarily-, not out of fear that the richies will shoot them. Morons from Silicon Valley even do outreach programs to try and attract more dirtbags, and get no takers.

Same stratification can be observed in most large to medium sized American cities. Often the distance between a super-high crime area and a no crime area is one street. Many of these borders are stable over decades. They just don't leave the 'hood.

But since there's no real -reason- they don't, if the welfare checks suddenly stop we may see things change equally suddenly. Then there will be walls and armed guards. But for now, there are none.