We Don't Need No Stinking French Fry Grease

We have billions of gal. of fuel in the ground very cheap and easy to get at. But our gov. will spend billions of our money to use food to make fuel. Has no one noticed the price of food lately? That is ok starve the poor to keep evors happy. Me I'm just am getting pissed off.

This ethanal thing has one justification.

As a fuel additive it has replaced the lead additive....not without some problems. Some older engines need another additive to lube valves.

However it seems alcohol can be easily derived from NG/Petroleum much cheaper than corn ethanol, cellulosic or wood derived methanol.

Bio-diesel is a non starter....expensive and practical only in warm weather. Diesels run on oil not grease.

It is about time they started to smarten up.

Using human or animal food to produce fuel was ludicrous to begin with.

Related? You betcha. Sink the Red-Green fraud & McGuinty.

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"Solar panel company Siliken lays off 40 in Windsor"

"Company accepted $7 million from Ontario government"

"Another manufacturer in the green energy sector that accepted millions in provincial funding has slashed its workforce in Windsor, Ont.

Siliken Renewable Energies has laid off 40 people, the equivalent of one shift, at its solar panel manufacturing facility.

Siliken production manager Paco Caudet blamed the cuts on government regulations and a lack of market.

Caudet said it takes too long for people to apply and get approved for solar panel projects in Ontario.

Last year, however, Caudet and Siliken production manager Richard Monk blamed the PCs for woes in the solar industry.

"I think the PC government should think again before they try to renege on any previous agreements because it will backfire and we will lose jobs, investments, and other countries will be hesitant to invest in our country," Monk told CBC News in 2011."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/story/2012/05/01/wdr-siliken-solar-panel-layoffs-windsor.html

Not only that but Windtronics closed up shop and moved to Michigan after receiving almost $3 Million in Provincial ( taxpayers money) grants.

Umm, when exactly did "development" become a verb?

It's amusing that this blog doesn't realize that ethanol isn't made from used fryer oil.

Ethanol from any source is a scam. It takes nore energy to make ethanol than it contains.

Bio-diesel is a non starter....expensive and practical only in warm weather.

Someone's ignorance is showing..again.
Just because someone can't make it work doesn't mean that others can't.

"non-starter"?? hardly... my truck starts on biodiesel just fine.

Quite a few people make biodiesel for about half the price of pump diesel, AND use it for motor fuel all winter long in temperatures as low as 30 below zero. Of course you have to be smart enough to do it right, any idiot can make things fail.

It's amusing that North_of_60 doesn't know a metaphor when he sees it, despite having been told before.

Sure biodiesel "works", to the extent that the product of the transesterification of animal and vegetable fats makes a useable substitute for petroleum-based oil as a fuel for Diesel engines.

How do you dispose of the spent caustic, and the sludge, and the glycerin that are left over from the production of biodiesel?

Has it occurred to you that the only reason the price of biodiesel seems so attractive is that you are comparing it to commercial petro-diesel, which carries a heavy burden of taxes? If the precursors to biodiesel, the fat, the potassium hydroxide, and the methanol, were taxed proportionately to the same degree that petroleum is taxed, biodiesel would be too expensive to be worth the trouble.

But everyone should have a hobby.

gordinkneehill, I love it when someone speaks up on this blog and they actually know what they are talking about.

Thanks for your post.

I'm sure Harper & co. will get rid of the ethanol mandate/subsidy when they get a majority.

I don't which is worse....cars fueled by food,therefore starving people(less drivers I guess),or coal powered electrics(causing cAGW). When is our government going to grow a set,and tell them all to quietly go do something anatomically impossible?

EPA gives E15 go-ahead despite objections, approves production applications

As predicted and expected, the Environmental Protection Agency today approved the first applications to make E15, a blend of gasoline with 15 percent ethanol in it. This means that E15 is now a "significant step" closer to production and sale in America. ... Since 1980, the ethanol industry has received an estimated $45 billion in subsidies.

so are these "ethanol subsidies" what make the enviros freak-out about big oil subsidies?

how else to get 5-15% ethanol into gaz?

Bio-diesel was not Diesel's idea. More fraud from Red-Green.

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"Argentina looking to absorb the million tons of bio-diesel Spain no longer will import"

"Spain was Argentina’s main bio-diesel client having imported 995.599 tons in 2011 equivalent to 1.2 billion dollars, which is almost half the total revenue for the item, 2.3 billion.

“Loosing overnight your main client is a problem, but hopefully there will be alternatives that could make the issue less painful”, said an industry source.

Agriculture consultant Gustavo Lopez said that the immediate options are domestic consumption or exporting to other countries. “Since Spain will have to buy bio-diesel in other markets, probably France or Germany, Argentine exports could then be addressed to those markets” speculates Lopez.

However the president of the Bio-fuels Chamber, Fernando Pelaez revealed that the sector was preparing for such an event since Spain had threatened on previous occasions to cut bio-diesel imports. “Looking for potential customers overseas is an idea but the strongest option is to elevate the domestic gas-oil content from 7% to 10%”. Pelaez estimates that a 10% bio-diesel content could see cars absorb 380.000 tons; buses, trucks and farm machinery another 400.000 tons and thermal electricity generating units, 300.000 tons.

Argentina is the world’s fourth producer of bio-diesel and the main world exporter, which is also crucial for the soybean industry which has an annual turnover of 20.7 billion dollars, made up of 3.3 billion dollars in beans; 11 billion in soy flour; 4.2 in soy oil and bio-fuels, 2.3 billion dollars. Last year Argentina exported 1.9 million tons of bio-diesel."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2878761/posts

Hey if you don't go green at your own expense we will force you , even if you become broke.

Goodness! Iogen is still promoting and also grazing on a smorg of Gov't grants for cellulosic ethanol. I remember in the late "80's these Iogen boys promoting this scam - I guess a good con will always attract suckers!

Of course we need stinking French fry grease! That grease not fry itself!