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You are incorrect. The root cause is not shooting students.

Tories approve bill proposing 10-year jail term for masked rioters

OTTAWA — Conservative MPs have agreed to impose a maximum 10-year prison term on protesters who wear masks during a riot.

A proposed private members’ bill would make it a crime for protesters to wear a mask or disguise while taking part in a riot or unlawful assembly. This week the Harper government put its weight behind the bill.

The Conservative majority on a House of Commons committee that is examining the bill took matters a step further Thursday by doubling the proposed maximum prison term to 10 years, from five.

Why is anyone surprised that the "strike" should be playing out this way. This is really not a new tactic: going back to the late 1960s, Leftist radicals have been getting away with thug tactics, disrupting universities, professional meetings, businesses, etc. . . . and getting away with it! John Lewis' heart is in the right place, but that level of reaction is not necessary: as Kate commented, the root cause (in this case, anyway) is that the "students" do not face any serious consequences (at least not as long as they hide behind a smokescreen of quasi-Marxist, "social justice" rhetoric).

Of course, different rules are applied to different folk: let a polite young woman be seen passing out right-to-life leaflets, or an independent-minded professor making an argument against the homosexualist agenda, and university authorities would be on them like white on rice in a nanosecond.

Why is anyone surprised that the "strike" should be playing out this way. This is really not a new tactic: going back to the late 1960s, Leftist radicals have been getting away with thug tactics, disrupting universities, professional meetings, businesses, etc. . . . and getting away with it! John Lewis' heart is in the right place, but that level of reaction is not necessary: as Kate commented, the root cause (in this case, anyway) is that the "students" do not face any serious consequences (at least not as long as they hide behind a smokescreen of quasi-Marxist, "social justice" rhetoric).

Of course, different rules are applied to different folk: let a polite young woman be seen passing out right-to-life leaflets, or an independent-minded professor making an argument against the homosexualist agenda, and university authorities would be on them like white on rice in a nanosecond.

Controlled anarchy is what brings in new, more restrictive laws which limit our freedoms each and every day.

When the courts and judges delay justice, the frustration builds and leads to vigilantism because nobody gets what they want.

Won't be long and being armed and packing heat will be the only deterrent to hoodlums and "activists".

My engineering classes would have put an end to that nonsense very quickly.

If a group of protestors at a university disrupted a class in Gender Studies or Gay & Lesbian Studies in this manner, they would be imprisoned and charged with hate crimes in the blink of an eye. Not so if you are a mob of communists seeking to strike out at capitalist "scabs". These thugs must have learned a thing or two from their brethren who have successfully sacked Caledonia with such impunity.

It has unfortunately come to the point in our nation where violence is entirely excusable provided that your cause has the right political motivation.

It will come to the point as it did in Renaissance Italy. Where groups to protect themselves ( like guilds) from rioters hired mercenaries.

"My engineering classes would have put an end to that nonsense very quickly."

^- OMG - we really do need a sarcasm font.

Quebec is an absurd province. I hope their little idiotic, entitled off-spring end up razing the whole crazy province.

Carlos, this tactic goes back even further to the early 1900s and was a common tactic used by Bolshevik, Nazis and other socialist revolutionaries to intimidate the population and the authorities.

The response has to be swift, measured and firm. This is something the Vancouver and Quebec authorities have not done. Quebec now has a monster to deal with.

Why do we have quebec in this country? They take federal money and give us these NDP voting brats in return. Its time to revoke la belle province's membership.

Dennis, don't you mean "the LEFT political motivation"? :-}

Best cure for fascists aka brownshirts:
Concealed carry.

The root causes of the "student strike" are the traitors putting them up to it---the same old pack of Jesuits and nuns who've been brainwashing generations of Lower Canadian children from birth, grooming them into another generation of traitors and revolutionaries in the cause of a Laurentian republic rid of heresy, Jewry and the English language.

Of course, they don't bother with wearing clerical collars or habits and oaths of poverty or chastity any more (not that they bothered with the chastity anyway when parents' backs were turned)---on the contrary, they charge loyal Lower Canadian Protestants and Jews top dollar (via Revenu Quebec) for the privilege of turning their neighbours' children against them in the madrassas that pass for Quebec's French schools.

Fun fact: the Globe and Mail's profiles of the leaders of the three major student groups revealed that two had gone to the exact same Catholic high school (College Regina-Assumpta) in Montreal. One, Gabriel Nadeau-Dubois, was a union official's son, the last (I hope) in a long line of professional troublemakers---but the other, Martine Desjardins, was an otherwise quite conservative housewife, by all accounts---which did not stop her from becoming a 21st century Madame Defarge.

Blazingcatfur's next assignment for himself might be to find out what in God's name the nuns have been teaching the children at that god-forsaken "elite college," and others just like it in French Canada.

(If you're interested: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/lysiane-gagnon/theyre-students-and-born-leaders/article2423454/ )

I can think of a few things that would help stall this complete and utter BS.

Concussion grenades

Water cannons

Bean bag projectors

Rubber bullets

Tear gas

nah Texas, the solution here is simple, allow the police to shoot anyone who conceals their face during a protest.

Headline - Tories approve bill proposing 10-year jail term for masked rioters

I'd be in favour of this with another very specific provision. Given that virtually all politicians wear a "virtual mask" while campaigning for office and subsequently committing fraud once in office - i.e., not honouring their promises - they should also be subject to this law.

The real tragedy here for us all. Is the police stand idle, if not helping the anarchists. While people who are paying for an Education are being bullied or denied. It shows one thing. Our own law enforcement is at war with the very Public it was sworn to protect.

ditto, grok - while I wouldn't be as confident saying this today, in the early 90's had this gone down in the Engineering quads of U(W) more than a few of the protestors would have gone home on crutches.

This no masks while rioting law is insipid. It's already a crime to be involved in a riot, punishable by up to two years in prison. What the police want - what they've outright said - is that they want to be able to grab the masked people in crowds before a riot actually starts, presumably in the hope of preventing a riot. The problem is that until the Riot Act gets read, nobody's committed a crime yet.

The whole thing has more than a whiff of PET's "well, maybe I'll make it legal for the RCMP to burn barns, then" about it.

The Parliament of Canada has no business inserting itself into this issue. There are plenty of criminal laws on the books now to deal with rioting. This private members bill about masked protesters is simply another show by politicians to make us think they are doing something. In reality it is bull tweet. This would be a joke if it weren't being brought forward by so-called conservative politicians.

It looks very much like the police have been told not to physically oppose the "protesters" just as has been done in several other situations in other jurisdictions. Regular citizens get no protection. The only answer I see is that a group of these hooligans get the crap beat out of them by the students whose class they try to take over. The regular citizens of Quebec are going to have to take their university, their city and their province back.

Students?

I think not.

Dick Slater - so in a nutshell what you're saying is that it's nuns that are instigating the riots.

John Lewis, you almost had it in one. That should be striking/protesting students. There are a lot of legit students that are or want to go to class but have to put up with the village idiots.

Simple, if you feel threatened or are assulted simply pick up text book stand sideways and swing said book upward and drive said book into the middle of the anarchist's face a broken nose is sure to follow. Retract book quickly lest you get dirt bag blood on it.

Of course they call those that don't support their actions "Scabs". They're funded by Unions, trained by Union funds and act like Union Goons. Guess it's time for "Strike Breakers".

These students will never be expelled by the university. They have the tacit support of the faculty and the management, in many cases probably the explicit support.

They also have the support of the Bloc, Liberal and NDPee politicians running the province. That's why Charest caved so fast, he just needed a fig leaf to do what he wanted to do all along.

I think the federal effort to pass the ten year jail term for masked rioters is ASSININE. There's already plenty of law on the books against going masked, all that needs to happen is for some of these punks to be nabbed in the act and chucked in jail for a couple years.

Start firing and/or suing some upper management cops, some upper management university types, this crap will stop in a week.

I couldn't agree more, Phantom. We have tons of laws available to deal with this rabble but no stomach to enforce them. Passing more laws we won't enforce is utterly assinine.

They are already ignoring very explicit court injunctions. They should be in jail for contempt of court, if nothing else.

If there was a law that disqualified or suspended violent protesters welfare/subsidy/pogy/freebees indefinately - unless they put in 5 years uninterupted work experience paying taxes and benefit premiums, the streets would be silent.

In my opinion any student who participates in a riot should be expelled and refused access to any publicly funded university or college. Higher education is a privilege that should be earned by diligent study and adherence to a high moral standard.

Since the tuition is 87% paid by the government that means that for every dollar the student pays the taxpayers chip in seven dollars. Why should the law abiding taxpayer be shouldering that burden for thugs and anarchists?

I thought it was already in the criminal code that a mask can not be worn during the commission of a crime?

Before we knock la belle province too hard for its resolute inactivity on all of this...think of Caledonia. Lest we forget.

Why not just cut Quebec off? That way, everyone in la belle province can enjoy poverty. They will know who to blame. What must be done will be done.

These are not students.

They are, however, a waste of oxygen.

My university days were also my kickboxing days and, as Grok noted about his fellow engineers, if a class of mine had been invaded when I was a student, there would be a lot of "protesters" who would be very sorry they invaded that particular class.

I don't give a rats ass if rioters are masked; the problem with the police departments in Canada today is that they've forgotten how to use billy clubs and handcuffs. Arresting a few hundred student protesters and tossing them in jail for a week or two would probably quiet things down immensely, especially if they were beaten senseless first.

Parliament would have made much better use of their time if they passed legislation that if the cowardly metrosexual "males" that now seem to think they're policemen can't deal with a riot, then the citizens of the city in which the riot is taking place can take to the streets and end the riot. All that is needed is a law giving immunity from prosecution for the concerned citizens that weigh in with baseball bats and other commie-bashing instruments. People may get pissed off enough that such counter-riots may soon erupt spontaneously.

I consider it my right to wear a gas mask if I'm in an area that is flooded with tear gas. Does this idiotic legislation mean that hockey players who wear face shields will face additional charges if there is a bench clearing brawl in the ice that takes police to sort out?

This doesn't sound like anything some mace couldn't solve.
Or some tazers. Take your pick.

This doesn't sound like anything some mace couldn't solve.
Or some tazers. Take your pick.
Posted by: Half Canadian at May 17, 2012 12:58 PM

Hey, leave it all alone, it'll take care of itself.

I mean, if a rotten virus showed cannibalistic tendancies, would you intervene to get it back on track?

Quebec is our Greece.