Hashtag Of The Entitlement Generation

I didn't think that the comments section at the CBC could be topped.

Then I clicked on the link and went to the HuffPo.

I certainly stand corrected.

I cannot believe "no, it's immflamatory" is winning!

It is strangely right for Macleans, a strangely disoriented magazine. It was classic establishment liberal, but is attempting to respond to the SHIFT ...

"No, it's inflammatory."

Oh, the irony...

Protest is one thing...what this has devolved into is quite another.

Do these kids not realize that they're shills for global entities they used to rail about?

My theory is that Maclean's likes to piss off its reader base on occasion just for kicks. Not a bad trait, IMO. The herd of independent minds needs the occasional muleta to charge at. Ole'

Robert, "no, it's inflammatory" is winning because it's HuffPo.
Now if Macleans was dissing a pro life walk, that would be okay, right?

I just voted and "no, it's inflamatory" is only slightly ahead.

I am surprised that Maclean's did this, as I stopped my subscription a few years ago because of its continual left of center content. The cover falls somewhat short though, as it omitted the anarchist insignia.

Funny. It sound almost exactly what Evan Solomon said on Power & Politics today.

Coincidence? Hmmmm.

The post is by an anonymous author.

I'll bet Feschuk's article on Mitt would chock full of his leftist drivel.

As I have said before,expell the protesters and NEVER allow them back on a Quebec universities property.We in the west are tired of taking our hard earned taxes and giving them to free loading Quebecers.Albertas oil sands are paying for those subsidised tuitions. ALL the wests universities are raising tuition more than $325.

Contrast their actions with this:

Student Loan In Cash

I would like the feds to audit the Quebec Govts.Taxation dept.to find out if Quebec is a have not province or is it just on paper as they count the money.

"It amounts to a temporary suspension of certain liberties and allows the government to avoid serious negotiations with student leaders."

Negotiate? You don't negotiate with that kind of rabble. To do so implies legitimacy for their demands and only encourages more of the same.

You punish criminal acts and expell them all from their universities. That way the got what they wished for, not having to pay for tuition.

I don't think Maclean's goes far enough.

What exactly are these criminals protesting? That the largesse from the oil sands (which they hate) is the reason why they have a virtually free education? That the authorities which should have turned the hoses on them haven't?

I like Quebec. I like all of Canada. The only way Quebec could redeem itself for this debacle is for the average citizen to get so g-d- mad that they turn on these losers with such fury that not even a thousand suns could match the heat.

Then vote out the spineless runts who let it all happen.

Update:

Do you like Maclean's latest cover?

Yes. They're right about the students 54.07%

No. It's inflammatory 45.93%

Maybe the protest is a frount for something else. Maybe some little acorns dropped a bit early this year.

Lenin called this ilk "useful idiots'.

Charest always had diarhea for a spine.

He remains true to form, and for that he deserves respect,just not from me.

PS you know what Quebec university students are qualified for in Alberta?

Tree planters.

Went to huffpo poll a second time and voted - a second time. Leftists are all the same...

Profs are behind it all. Students are mostly lightning rods.

Fix bayonets.

Alberta, cut off the cash! We pay this welfare province to spit in our faces continually, cheap daycare, cheap university tuition, three rounds of paid in-vitro fertilization to make more welfare bums, and the welfare province is still 250 billion in debt, how stupid are we? Shove the leftie poll Mcleans and break out the riot police with rubber bullets water cannons and some strap on balls if needed! You Kweebeckers make us westerners puke.

Identify the agitators, shoot one the first day, double every day there after, problem over in less than a week. They are not students but professional agitators, they go where the action is and run from resistance.

Put snipers on the roofs, contain the crowd, wait for the Molotov thrower.

Do it right and you've got a burning corpse.

The marchers in the streets are the 1%.

The productive 99% are at work.

Battles like this are ultimately moral and morale battles.

Unfortunatley I dont feel that Charest has his heart in it. Where is the leader in Quebec that will rally the majority of the populace to express their disust with whats happeneing. A rally of 100,000+ "normal people" just to show where the populace sits.

Unfortunately you have red squares and black bloc....last time we saw red and black together the result was not good. These groups have visions of revolution in their heads and a weak Quebec government will only be th eblood in the water to encourage them.

This will not end well.

History tells us that under that mask is most likely to be our next bilingual millionaire lawyer Liberal Prime Minister from Quebec.

Here's my solution.

If I was the government I would make an announcement that in 24 hours neither the police, government agencies or any authorities will observe, interfere, be present or comment on any strike, demonstration taking place in Quecbec. The protestors can protest, destroy and intimidate anyone or anything they want without interference from authorities.

The people will eventually get sick of the demonstrators and take their own action as the demonstrators will become very unpopular.

I hope in my lifetime that Quebec gets to celebrate 'Freedom in Quebec' day because then the rest of Canada can celebrate 'Freedom From Quebec' day. Betya our parties are more fun.

I could care less about Quebec or eastern Canada for that matter. They have constructed this country where the wealth is directed to the central core of Ontario and Quebec through 'equalization' and through a economic plan where manufacturing was situated there with the benefits that entail.

Western Canada should be conducting its own debate about cutting its losses and discontinuing the transfer of wealth generated from finite resources. Jeebers we have had premiers of AB who have fretted that if the Heritage Fund had got to big that the feds would seize it. Maybe that was a cynical excuse to raid it but it comments on the thought processes that go on.

Quebec has been robbing the rest of Canada for years...with the aid of federal governments, who I might add along the way have been conservative....trolling for those Quebec votes.

Quebec screwed NFLD on Churchill Falls and are hated. They screw Alta, Sask, and BC on equalization and are hated. Ontario despises them, except for Ottawa which we all know is run by the French. Northern Cree hate them. I think the Martimes with the exception of New Brunswick, which has a large French population, hate them as well as Manitoba. Any of them in the Armed Forces or RCMP are looked on as a joke.....and above all they all hate Anglophones. So here is the question what the heck do we have to bind us together.

We should separate and then Quebecers would love us for awhile and they would have to depend upon us and the USA for their trade and economical survival. Just think how their French language would disintegrate if that were to happen. We all know that if you take away the freebies from the French they will definitely turn into that Vichy French Mode....history will repeat it self.

Then life would be good....finally a free Canada all with the same language and morals. Think how strong and economical powerful we would be my friends.

"...Western Canada should be conducting its own debate about cutting its losses and discontinuing the transfer of wealth generated from finite resources..."

Posted by: ct at May 25, 2012 10:59 AM

Alberta just had that debate - it elected Redford. So presumably the western population has more in common with Quebecers and other eastern Canadians than a lot would people would like to admit. ;)

Some of the responsibility for the false sense of righteousness exhibited by these terrorist wannabes should be laid at the feet of the MSM, who gave the Occupy movement so much free, non-critical publicity last summer. Instead of the derision, scorn, and public exposing of hypocrisy, fuddled thinking, and shady funding, the MSM preferred to speak of "social justice" and "corporate greed". What we are seeing now is merely an extension of the same unthinking, entitled, "take it to the man" mindset, carried out by many of the same individuals who learned last year that if your cause is lefty enough, nobody will interfere, because we all know now that any lefty who demonstrates in the streets is totally clear in their thinking and totally righteous in their cause. Get a job, children. Profs and teachers who nurture the "social justice" crowd - no comment that would pass the filter.

I agree with spike 1. Anyone student who isn't where they are supposed to be on Monday with respect to classes, labs or lectures will be banned from Quebec Universities forever.

Shooting the agitators would only be my second choice but it would be kind of fun.

Poll update:

Do you like Maclean's latest cover?

Yes. They're right about the students 56.67%

No. It's inflammatory 43.33%

Brian M. at May 25, 2012 12:09 PM
"Shooting the agitators would only be my second choice but it would be kind of fun."

Your are indeed a sad little man and you have my pity.

Well, we're winning over at that poll!

The good thing about these riots is that it reveals Quebec and its radicals for who they are: crybaby opportunist Marxist unionists who expect the ROC to pay their way.

I used to be glad that Quebec was a part of our great country. Now, I see it dragging us down with absolutely no benefit to us. Quebec has become a parasite on the ROC.

Enough, already. When does the ROC get its referendum?

These "students"

It is not just 325$.

It is 325$ cumulative over 5 years. 1625$

and 1625$ per year increase on top of what you currently pay.
Then you have to pay it every year. So for a typical 3 years degree it is close to 5000$

I didn't support the students until Charest voted the facist 78 law.

I have seem people been randomly brutalized by the police just because they were at the wrong place at the wrong time..

I myself go to some of the protests as an observer, I do not participate in the troubles at all, I just stay on the sidewalk and watch. And I was almost arrested and brutalized by the police..

This is intolerable. no more police brutality.

Sure, let us just let them trash the city and maybe even take over the government now that the anarchists and communists are involved. FLQ is alive and well.

Even after the increases are implemented, the tuition in Quebec will be much less then in ROC.

quebecois - i've a few questions.

Why do you think that other people should pay for an individual's college or university attendance? Why shouldn't the individual pay for it himself? Why should others pay for it?

And even with the increase, Quebec tuition would still be the lowest in Canada. Why should the taxpayers of Canada fund this (and don't try to tell us that it's just the Quebec taxpayer paying for it).

I'm sure you know that any francophone international student can go to a Quebec university for the same low tuition rate as a Quebecois. But if they are not francophone then they must pay the regular international rate which is about 7 times higher. Why should the Canadian taxpayer fund international students in Quebec?

And I'm sure you know that students from all other provinces in Canada must pay more to attend Quebec universities. This is not the case for Quebecers attending eg Ontario or BC or any other provincial university. Why does Quebec discriminate against Canadian students?

And now - kindly define 'police brutality'.

Also, please define 'fascism'.

"This is intolerable. no more police brutality."

I love this stuff. Rightly and wrongly, observers hue and cry about police 'brutality', but nothing is ever said about the livelihood of other innocents being destroyed. Sucks to be them, thanks to our snowy socialism.

ET: To the likes of "quebecois," police brutality is when a soldier in the latest French rebellion against the Queen of Canada walks along a street in Montreal with a Molotov cocktail and a slip of a girl in a police uniform so much as looks at him.

(Planting a bomb with intent to murder loyal Canadians who dared go to a cafe displaying English signs, of course, is a heroic act by a patriot of "quebecois'" fantasy of a Laurentian republic, and not "brutal" at all.)

Fascism, of course, is the belief that Lower Canada is not to be yielded to traitors, communists, separatists or republicans without being resisted by loyal Canadians at any cost.

quebecois: Que ton maitre le diable t'emporte, et ta maudite race aussi.

dick slater - what I find astonishing is the flippant disregard for facts, for reality, for logic, in the posts of such as quebecois separatiste.

There's no argument made as to why the taxpayer should pay for someone's college education. After all, it's a choice not a necessity; therefore, why should someone else pay for this choice?

Equally, there's no argument about the value to the individual or to society for that matter, of such an 'education'. After all, the ones who are rioting are not in the value-packed disciplines of medicine, law, engineering, physics, chemistry etc...but in the spurious opinion-only 'disciplines'.

Nor is there any awareness or admission of the fact that these fees are the lowest in Canada, or that international francophones are allowed access to these same low rates. Hmm.

As for the flippant accusations of 'police brutality', there has to be specific examples given - and these examples can't be from the gossip non-factual statements made in the various presses - which claim all sorts of dramatic student injuries - with no clear indication of what caused the injury (by the police or a projectile flung by the protesters) and which ignore the injuries to the police, the vandalism to stores and civilian property.

Equally, the students ignore that no fundamental rights have been violated by the province; the Charter does not give them the right to violence, but to 'peaceful assembly'.

quebecois NDP separatiste: "This is intolerable. no more police brutality."

What's intolerable, as others have pointed out, is the students' riots, violence, and incessant demands that they be treated utterly differently from students in other parts of Canada who pay tiwce what they do in tuition because the ROC subsidizes the Quebec students' university/college costs.

If the students weren't rioting in the streets -- not their right -- there wouldn't have to be a police presence, would there, qndps?

Obviously the education they are receiving isn't worth the prescribed value. It would be interesting to see signs stating that their schooling is crap and not worth the extra money. This argument may have merit. But, until then...

Stupidité, imbécillité, ineptie

"PS you know what Quebec university students are qualified for in Alberta?

Tree planters."

Nothing wrong with being a tree planter; it's honest, useful work.

And I'm willing to bet the kind of Québec student who'd travel to Alberta to make some money is probably the kind who is determined to go to class right now rather than roam the streets of Montréal.

Hey, and regarding Macleans magazine.

When I was living in the UK in the early 2000s, I'd occasionaly be sent or passed a copy or two of the magazine by friends or other expats.

I started to notice the tone of the magazine had chagned (quite markedly in fact!) from its traditional self-satisfied snoozefest stance* and it was actually starting to make for a good read.

* You all know what I mean here. There are two words in Canadian journalism to describe this sad affliction: Jeffrey Simpson.

“Entitlement.” We hear that word associated again and again with student protesters in Quebec. Usually, it’s preceded by the words, “sense of.”

“They think someone owes them a living,” disgruntled critics harrumph. “Wait until they get into the real world.”

Setting aside the fact that this intergenerational hectoring dates back to Socrates, let us ask: Who exactly is making the charge? Quebec has had low tuition rates for a half century. That means almost every living adult in the province, having already been afforded a plum goodie, is now wagging his finger at the first generation that will be asked to pay the tab. So who really is entitled here?

Canadians now aged 55 years and older will collect Old Age Security when they hit 65. The rest of us will have to work two more years. Those who came of age in the 1960s enjoyed Employment Insurance and Medicare when they were still unfunded liabilities. They cash a Canada Pension cheque that depends upon today’s working men and women. The plan probably won’t exist by the time the rest of us reach whatever age of retirement the government decrees by the time we are old.

In the 1970s, parents pulled on the (now discontinued) Family Allowance program. The employed could count on a level of job security that allowed them to take on debt to own houses, cottages and cars. They paid them off and retired to indexed pensions.

It’s almost like Canadians had a “sense of entitlement,” or something.

In the ’90s, this same well-entitled generation began the drumbeat for lower taxes, never once offering up a government program they were willing to sacrifice. When the economy tanked, it fell to money-starved governments to bail everyone out. Today’s youth had nothing to do with that profligacy, but are being called upon to “grow up” and shoulder the adult responsibility of paying the debt off.

We hear a great deal these days about how we have to be reasonable about the times we live in. Corporate officers pulling in massive salaries and bonuses even as their companies lose money say average working men and women have to understand that the age of job security, pensions and even a middle-class wage are behind us. Have any of them offered to take the lead by surrendering even a fraction of their benefits? Are Federal Labour Minister Lisa Rait and Quebec Premier Jean Charest prepared to trim their gold-plated pensions to set an example to the students and workers they condescendingly lecture about the “new reality”?

Today’s youth face a grim future not of their own making. Is it any wonder that they’re angry about it? What they are asking for is what previous generations so eagerly gobbled up for themselves. If those generations now believe their entitlements were too generous, then, perhaps, in the spirit of sharing the burden, they might want to give some of them back.

Didn’t think so.

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