But Don Cherry Is The Crazy One

Idiotic

I read comments by hockey fans on another site and can see that I don't look at the world thru the same lens. A cousin was a pro hockey player and I know how hard they work during the hockey season, but I can find nothing at all in his life - injuries, pain, operations, loss of career - that compare to first responders running into the twin towers. like, NOTHING!

So now unionized public employees are the pinnacle towards which we all strive?

Ron said It is crazy to compare hockey players to 9/11 first responders (many of whom died that day). He should have quit right there -- while he was ahead.

The cops and firefighters were doing their job. A couple times a year and oilfield worker around here is killed on the job. Is his death any less a tragedy?

MacLean is using a metaphor. For those that have never heard of it before that's M-E-T-A-P-H-O-R. Given the bitching, it obviously worked.

Circumspection gone really wrong. I thought Mclean was better that.

Funny little story about Ron Maclean. My brother and I were playing in a summer hockey league in Calgary about 25 years ago . Ron was the ref for the game and my brother was playing center and was ready for the faceoff. Waiting for the puck drop he looked up and noticed the ref looked familiar to him. He started pointing at him and said "Aren't you.......uhmm aren't you.........Larry Day!' Larry Day happened to be a local sportscaster of the time. Ron looked at him and in a dead pan tone said "Ron Maclean"

Abdul Rashid works at the local 7/11, everyday he responds to his communities request like the firemen who fought and died on 9/11 by smiling and lifting their spirits when they buy their morning coffee.

Unlike Hockey players making millions of dollars Rashid has a modest fireman’s income and is striving to bring his small village to Canada so that they can receive free medical attention for lung diseases like many of the fireman in 9/11.

I do not know Ron MacLean nor Don Cherry, never met them nor will I likely ever chance to meet either one, but if I were choosing up a side for a team, I would pick both of them for straightforward sincerity alone!

Means a Hell of A lot compared to to bluster and Bullshit in my view!

Scar, rushing into the twin towers was more than doing your job for the first responders. Unless you lack the imagination to envision the scene. Of course, they'd rush to help people. If there had been a half-dozen hockey players on the scene, I'm sure they would have rushed to help also. It's the human thing to do: putting others first.

Playing a hockey game to win, for the money and the glory of your team, doesn't compare on any level. (I was going to say for the fans and then remembered the TML.)

M-E-T-A-P-H-O-R doesn't even enter into it. Unless you want to say it was a stupid metaphor.

Did he start crying?

That was horrible (and embarrassing for Ron)...

Kinda reminds me of how the New Orleans Saints were built up after hurricane Katrina.

Mythology takes some interesting paths.

The script for both the NHL intro and the Saints were ... cities were struck by tragedy, but the warriors of their sports teams are helping reinstill some pride.

Yeah, whatever.

Naaaaa, Bettman's the crazy one. Wake me up when they give the cup to the Arkansas Chicken Spankers.

I've only heard about the intro second-hand (can't listen to it at work), but from what I know I have no problem with it.

But since MacLean leans to the politically-correct side of the spectrum, it's always nice to see those people eaten by the monster they've unleashed. 'Course his takeaway won't be "I'll say whatever I damn well please;" it'll be "I'd better choose my words more carefuly next time."

9-11? No, I'd compare it more to D-Day.

This hockey series has to be the most important event in modern history.

Too bad John Wayne isn't around to lead the attack,again. :-(

Hey, psssst, its just a game. Real heroes? Try First responders, Firemen, food producers(Farmers), Surgeons, Soldiers, others ... multimillion dollar 'game players' !?

Which one of the above would be the last one you would eliminate if your life depended on it? Seriously, only one of the above's elimination would guarantee death for everyone and anyone within days.

WTF?

The only thing worse than 'athletes foot' is
sports announcer's brain.

...always figured Ron was an idiot.

Several years ago Harry Neale did an intro for a playoff game in St. Louis on HNIC and referenced the Nazi invasion of Europe. Equally wtf worthy.

What a doofus...i think he drank the CBC koolaid and is now suffering the consequences. I can hardly wait til CBC loses the rights to HNIC but then it would go to the Toronto sports network. I hope Don Cherry tore him a new one for that intro.

Scar...here is an M word for you: MORON

'They are like police officers'

Definitely not a metaphor. That is called a simile. So when you troll around in an attempt to sound intelligent you should stick to innuendo and idle speculation.

There isnt a literary term for what Maclean was doing, unless you call 'talking out of your ass,' a literary term. Your activity here would fall squarely under the 'making an ass of yourself' category.

That intro is the clossest that I have come to watching any Stanley Cup hockey this year and for a number of years for that matter - other than watching a replay of whats-his-name hitting the Chicago player some time back.
In an attempt to control the game and make it safer it has devolved into a very, very dangerous spectacle. Too many players ambushing other players ala Scott Stevens. And no calls!

Yes, he's an idiot, always was.

First of all, these players come from all over the world. Moosejaw, Perry Sound, Czech Republic. They aren't dialed in to any local heroics.

Second, I believe the label of hero has been so watered down, it diminishes the true meaning of heroism. Anyone can be a hero. You don't have to wear a uniform, you just have to perform an act of heroism. If an oilfield worker risks his life to save an injured worker, he's a hero, at least to his crew. On the flip side, getting a job as a firefighter doesn't automatically make you a hero. There are plenty of people wearing uniforms, who wouldn't risk their own safety, under any circumstances. I'd even go so far as to add, knowing the risks beforehand is a requirement for hero status. That may or may not apply to some of the 9/11 responders. Running into a burning highrise had to be something they did with full knowledge of the extreme risk.

A hockey player should only be called a hero, if he jumps onto a burning zamboni, to rescue an unconscious driver. Scoring a goal is simply what he gets paid for.

BobC "Scar...here is an M word for you: MORON

'They are like police officers'

Definitely not a metaphor. That is called a simile. So when you troll around in an attempt to sound intelligent you should stick to innuendo and idle speculation."

I've never run into a true genius like you but i was meaning metaphor on a higher plane than a simple comparison. Follow me. I will educate you. I will teach you how to pee.

"Metaphor the comparison of two UNLIKE things. Simile, personification, anthropomorphism, hyperbole, parable (Biblical), fable, and analogy are metaphors."

http://www.tnellen.com/cybereng/lit_terms/metaphor.html

Thanks for the excuse to link to this great Don Cherry rant again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRm_K9OpYbo

Last time I got into a simile vs metaphor argument, a guy who'd ingested lsd chased me with an axe.

2008 - 2010

Construction 700
Manufacturing 637
Transportation 329
Other 1,322

Total 2,988

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2012/04/25/f-dangerous-jobs.html

Oops looks like another World Trade Center. lucky that we don't have to mourn these guys.

From the Oscars to the Grammys etc., the entertainment industry, which includes professional sports, has never been noted for modesty or self effacement. I'm sorry, but sweating to put on entertainment for six and seven and eight-figure salaries in no way compares to putting your life at risk for for five and at best six-figure salaries.

DrD- If you put your personal safety at risk, for a paycheque, whats the real difference? True heroism is beyond mere risk of personal safety, it has to do with extraordinary circumstances, and an acceptance of assured injury or death. Most cops and firemen would stop well short of that mark, on a day to day basis. It's those rare occassions, when someone really puts it on the line, that we should celebrate heroism. Otherwise, we'd be pinning medals on FedEx drivers, for getting packages past a barking dog.

Scar: unfortunately for your argument, definitions don't have planes. Your drug induced mental states might organize themselves into planes, but definitions don't.

WTF! What's wrong with doing away with the time-killing blabber and replacing it with:"Git-R-Done, eh."

Bobc "Scar: unfortunately for your argument, definitions don't have planes."

You'll get over it, now repeat after me. "A simile is a metaphor." Hell, a metaphor is even metaphor. I can't imagine anyone having problem with the term metaphor meaning use of figures of speech.

I have met Don Cherry and had the privilege of conversing with him for about 15 minutes. He is as I see him today - genuine and straight forward. Maclean is not even comparable to Don. I am not saying he is not good at what he does - he just does not wear his heart on his sleeve as Don does. Maclean should have refused to read this on the air since it really is shameful. Hockey is a game and a great one at that. What transpired on 9/11 was not a game. What those first responders did was not even asked of them - they just did what they felt they must do. Incredible courage was displayed on 9/11 and what these heroes did on that day many or most all of these spoiled athletes would never dream of doing.

It's really come to the place where a guy can't say anything anymore because of the intense scrutiny and criticism.

I'm not really a fan of Ron McLean and don't really pay much attention to him. Outside coaches corner, when he's on its time for a bathroom break.

But folks, did he really say something wrong? I'll give you a free scoop. The firemen that went into the twin towers are considered heroes because they risked and gave up their lives for others. But in a standard risk assessment had they known the towers were going to collapse they would not have gone in. Thus all those in the building would have died and the firemen would have lived. Very standard for first responders. Assess the risk and respond without putting yourself in undo harm.

So they are heroes because they died doing their job. They are to be so recognized. But their end came because of their ignorance; not knowing what the dangers were.

Police and firemen do put themselves at risk in their jobs but they mitigate those risks by assessing and controlling them. Sometimes they make mistakes and the consequence is tragic.

Now people are dissecting what McLean said and what it meant and what it was compared to and how it discredits the firemen and on and on. But the hysteria of offense on this blog and in others just smells of the typical political correct left wing wackos who are engulfed in their social engineering religion that wants to control everything that we say and do.

If someone says something stupid so what. I'm sure glad I've never done that.

Some day the men who iced these pucks will hear our voices.