In a similar vein, I saw Byline this morning(rerun?)and Brian had on the retired colonel that claimed the F-35 wasn't the best for Canada. The thing Lilley brought out the the CBC and rest of the MSM missed was this so called expert was a Green Party politician, Peace activist and all round "We are peacekeepers" guy. Talk about spin.
Richard Stursberg, in a defense of his old employer, said in the interview that while CBC has in the past been left of centre politically, it is now more centrist in its reporting.
I think I will give it another twenty years to prove that before I return to watch it.
Ken, let's forget about left-right politics for the moment. The central fact here is that Stursberg reversed a decades long trend of CBC television losing market share. Market share means money.
And Lacroix fired him. In short, the CBC values its internal political culture over reaching out to a broader spectrum of Canadians and commercial success.
The CBC can sing any kinda song you want. Moving to the center? Could that have anything to do with kissing a little ar*se while they wait for the next election? Just review the last election coverage to figure that out. The sad thing will be guys in government like Moore who will actually believe the CPC will get a fair shake.
If the CBC were balanced they would feature scientists like Ross McKitrick, Timothy Ball, Ian Clark, Tim Patterson, Christopher Essex, Brian Pratt or Lord Monckton besides Suzuki and Gore. They never have given a balanced perspective of the Climate Change issue, despite my many requests and complaints. They totally ignored "Climategate" and Bob McDonald, when asked about it, said there wasn't much to it. Fair and balanced? Heck, no!
"Richard Stursberg, in a defense of his old employer, said in the interview that while CBC has in the past been left of centre politically, it is now more centrist in its reporting."
...or maybe the rest of the world has simply moved to the left. Decades of Cultural Marxist propaganda infecting society will do that.
I saw that interview last night. Bless Brian Lilley, but, IMO, he too often allows his interviewees to spout utter garbage for far too long without challenging them. (E.g., The pro-abortion activist spewed the most outrageous and stupid—and verifiably FALSE—opinions, one after another. Brian did challenge her on occasion. Perhaps there were just too many lies for Brian to keep track of!)
When Stursberg opined, with a straight face, that the CBC has moved to the centre politically, Brian didn’t !Stop the Show! and ask for specific details to document this preposterous fantasy. What’s the evidence that the CBC’s not a snake pit of progressivism, C/conservative contempt and Harper hatred? Anyone?
I listen to CBC Radio2. On the "news", it has just been announced, with relish, that the PM's approval ratings are low. Of course, there was no mention of the consensus media gang-war against the PM, which has everything to do with his approval ratings.
As usual, CBC skews and spins the “news” by ignoring the part of the story that doesn’t fit their anti-C/conservative, anti-Harper narrative: they are PART of the story but report as if the anti-Harper polls are objective and trustworthy. CBC is more centrist? My foot!
Like it or not but CBC sure has a lot of Canadians brainwashed if we are to believe a silly poll in the May edition of Reader's Digest.
They tell us among the most trusted Canadians Michael J Fox is first,Peter Mansbridge of CBC is second and Suzuki is third, the list goes on...
Here's the kicker, our PM Harper is the most distrusted, to hell with the rest of their nonsense, time to shuck the Reader's Digest if that's all they have to do.
Odd, I heard a lengthy interview with Stursberg on CBC Radio's The Sunday Edition. Gasp... are Lilley and the Sun crew following the CBC?
And it's even more odd, don't cha think, that Enright challenged Stursberg on many fronts (chasing ratings, competing with privates, "content company") whereas Lilley folds up his tent and decamps without a fight.
So while I didn't "see" Stursberg on CBC - I certainly heard him.
Liz J,interesting that Suzuki's fallen from #1 to #3!
Stursberg is too close to the forest to see the trees,CBC is most definitely NOT "centrist", as per "Kroket's" list of Climate Change "experts" the CBC features over and over ad nauseum.
CBC Radio always features the Suzuki Foundation on anything to do with CC or the environment as the main interviewee,with only occasional input from other sources.
Anyone who can read facial expressions when a CBC personality interviews a small or large "C" conservative. Peter Mansbridge or Evan Solomon struggle mightily to maintain their facade of neutrality, but fail every time.
I was awake for part of that interview recorded on my PVR.
I seem to recall that cat saying that during his time there they did exhaustive research the upshot of which was that the CBC was politically mildly pro-Tory.
THAT. CANNOT. BE. WAS. NOT.
I won't be buying the book.
Debating whether or not the CBC leans left is like debating if it rains a lot in Vanouver. Life is too short to debate whether or not in rains a lot in Vancouver.
I share lookout's skepticism and bang-on, lookout: Lilley asked for no chapter and verse on that "monstrous fantasy". I like BL; he's a smart auto-didact but a pussycat in interviews with lib-lefties.
So Canadians have elected the least trustworthy Canadian to be Prime Minister 3 times in a row. What does that say about Martin, Dion, and Iggy? Democracy? They can't handle democracy!
That mealy mouthed bureaucrat had me wanting to throw my coffee cup at the computer screen. You tricked us, Kate; when a person never watches that garbage one tends to forget how badly they make the skin crawl. Yuk!
Like you lookout, I would give that fool not a moment of my time, everything he said was tainted with smug stupidity.
Like most Canadians, I don't care what that goof has to say because I would never give him the time of day. I don't want to pay for what he has to say! He can babble non stop but don't force me to fund his pathetic meanderings with my tax dollars.
James Moore is insecure, PMSH should get a smoker to fill his position; they have thick skins. CBC should be de funded, gutted and sold because it serves only it's elitist, human hating gang of thugs - on the good, honest Canadian taxpayers dime. End of discussion.
I strongly disagree with criticisms of Lilley. He made clear at the outset that he considers the CBC to be biased; when Stursburg mentioned that an "international" study found the CBC to be sightly favourable to the Conservatives it was near the very end of the interview, and Lilley made clear his doubt about the validity of the study. What's he supposed to do, hit him? Start yelling? Extend the interview and cut into Ezra's show? The CBC's bias, which Lilley (and Charles and Ezra) have been hammering away at ever since Sun News went on air, wasn't the subject of this particular interview anyway; the subject was Stursburg's book, and his criticisms of the (in effect biased and snotty) programming mindset of the CBC execs.
"(Lilley's) a smart autodidact but a pussycat in interviews with lib-lefties."
Totally disagree, he stands up to them 100% of the time. Engaging with guests, and treating them with respect, and letting them talk isn't a weakness, it's the bare minimum standard for a watchable show.
Notwithstanding your comment, EBD, with which I agree, I still would have appreciated Mr. Lilley asking Mr. Stursberg what, exactly, he meant by saying that the CBC is more centrist in its reporting.
I saw that interview this morning and had two thoughts about Stursberg.
1- He's working very hard not to piss people off who might buy the thing.
2- He has a highly selective way of recounting events and circumstances.
The thing that was absolutle bullshit was his recounting of that highly selective poll about CBC bias in reporting.
Citing that the CBC news was less critical of the Conservatives than of the LIberals and dippers, both the poll and Stursberg's intepretation completely fail to explain how that measure was made .... and you can bet your life it did not examine the full range of biases and malpractices that are the standard foundation for every CBC report.
From the selection of subject matter to the selective choice of details to be included and ignored to the outright fabrications to sequencing of subjects and to the snide attitudes of the on air talking heads. When it comes to CBC news coverage, it is in no way neutral ... it is as biased as they can make it because that IS what they do. They exist to reinforce their own views and prejudices and justify their own existance.
Stursberg's only factual points in the inerview were about the absolute shit that the entertainment production side of the CBC creates. The reasons he outlined about that were bang on... although he could have gone into much greater depth about that issue.
After all that ... his overriding point seems to have been to glorify his own role in making the prime time programming more successful ( a matter of opinion ) .... and to SELL HIS BOOK.
I doubt if it is really worth buying ... except for the sport of dissecting it.
CBC Bias:
The CBC has two types of bias and has since 1980 or so.
1. It tilts leftward.
2. It tilts toward the governing party.
No doubt when the Conservatives are in, this is the cause of some painful cognitive dissonance.
CBC proved that they were not biased bu focusing on the stories that they aired.
Their bias is most evident in the stories that they do not show,and also in the number of times and length of the stories aired.
Anything that denigrates the Conservatives will be aired and repeated. Stories that go against the 'progressive' outlook are buried quickly if they even make it at all.
kroket:
Correct about McKitrick and others mentioned. Kady O and others "missed" the leaked e-mails story for about 2 weeks, before being forced to respond.
Gore's agiprop movies have been shown countless times along with "Who Killed Electric Car" and other enviro classics.
To CBC Ross McKitrick is a non-person.
I'm with Stursberg on the TV programming issue, but not with his disastrous attempt to increase CBC 2's audience by moving away from classical music. It's been disastrous even in his own terms (and not only for a Scruton-esque elitist like me who believes in the superiority of classical music). Between 2008-2010 ratings fell by 10% and changed from 3% market share to 2.7%, and the decline has continued since. Maybe adding commercials will help.
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Kate I won't see ANYTHING on that poxy network if I have anything to do with it!
Hell, if I had my way that idiot liberal gong show would have been defunded and an unpleasant memory long ago!
I wouldn't trust those idiots to report the time of day!
In a similar vein, I saw Byline this morning(rerun?)and Brian had on the retired colonel that claimed the F-35 wasn't the best for Canada. The thing Lilley brought out the the CBC and rest of the MSM missed was this so called expert was a Green Party politician, Peace activist and all round "We are peacekeepers" guy. Talk about spin.
Richard Stursberg, in a defense of his old employer, said in the interview that while CBC has in the past been left of centre politically, it is now more centrist in its reporting.
I think I will give it another twenty years to prove that before I return to watch it.
Ken, let's forget about left-right politics for the moment. The central fact here is that Stursberg reversed a decades long trend of CBC television losing market share. Market share means money.
And Lacroix fired him. In short, the CBC values its internal political culture over reaching out to a broader spectrum of Canadians and commercial success.
The CBC can sing any kinda song you want. Moving to the center? Could that have anything to do with kissing a little ar*se while they wait for the next election? Just review the last election coverage to figure that out. The sad thing will be guys in government like Moore who will actually believe the CPC will get a fair shake.
If the CBC were balanced they would feature scientists like Ross McKitrick, Timothy Ball, Ian Clark, Tim Patterson, Christopher Essex, Brian Pratt or Lord Monckton besides Suzuki and Gore. They never have given a balanced perspective of the Climate Change issue, despite my many requests and complaints. They totally ignored "Climategate" and Bob McDonald, when asked about it, said there wasn't much to it. Fair and balanced? Heck, no!
"Richard Stursberg, in a defense of his old employer, said in the interview that while CBC has in the past been left of centre politically, it is now more centrist in its reporting."
...or maybe the rest of the world has simply moved to the left. Decades of Cultural Marxist propaganda infecting society will do that.
Is the CBC unbiased? Sure it is! I'll prove it in two words: Vote Compass.
I saw that interview last night. Bless Brian Lilley, but, IMO, he too often allows his interviewees to spout utter garbage for far too long without challenging them. (E.g., The pro-abortion activist spewed the most outrageous and stupid—and verifiably FALSE—opinions, one after another. Brian did challenge her on occasion. Perhaps there were just too many lies for Brian to keep track of!)
When Stursberg opined, with a straight face, that the CBC has moved to the centre politically, Brian didn’t !Stop the Show! and ask for specific details to document this preposterous fantasy. What’s the evidence that the CBC’s not a snake pit of progressivism, C/conservative contempt and Harper hatred? Anyone?
He has more rings on his fingers than George Stromsnuffalufagas has in his face.
He's severely messed up if he thinks the CBC is centrist in any way.
I listen to CBC Radio2. On the "news", it has just been announced, with relish, that the PM's approval ratings are low. Of course, there was no mention of the consensus media gang-war against the PM, which has everything to do with his approval ratings.
As usual, CBC skews and spins the “news” by ignoring the part of the story that doesn’t fit their anti-C/conservative, anti-Harper narrative: they are PART of the story but report as if the anti-Harper polls are objective and trustworthy. CBC is more centrist? My foot!
Original content is not a strong point here, is it?
Like it or not but CBC sure has a lot of Canadians brainwashed if we are to believe a silly poll in the May edition of Reader's Digest.
They tell us among the most trusted Canadians Michael J Fox is first,Peter Mansbridge of CBC is second and Suzuki is third, the list goes on...
Here's the kicker, our PM Harper is the most distrusted, to hell with the rest of their nonsense, time to shuck the Reader's Digest if that's all they have to do.
Odd, I heard a lengthy interview with Stursberg on CBC Radio's The Sunday Edition. Gasp... are Lilley and the Sun crew following the CBC?
And it's even more odd, don't cha think, that Enright challenged Stursberg on many fronts (chasing ratings, competing with privates, "content company") whereas Lilley folds up his tent and decamps without a fight.
So while I didn't "see" Stursberg on CBC - I certainly heard him.
Liz J,interesting that Suzuki's fallen from #1 to #3!
Stursberg is too close to the forest to see the trees,CBC is most definitely NOT "centrist", as per "Kroket's" list of Climate Change "experts" the CBC features over and over ad nauseum.
CBC Radio always features the Suzuki Foundation on anything to do with CC or the environment as the main interviewee,with only occasional input from other sources.
Anyone who can read facial expressions when a CBC personality interviews a small or large "C" conservative. Peter Mansbridge or Evan Solomon struggle mightily to maintain their facade of neutrality, but fail every time.
Successful Progressive Business Model 101.
“The CBC needs to radicalize "Little Mosque on the Prairie”, and then continue to lobby for quadrupling Islamic immigration levels.”
I was awake for part of that interview recorded on my PVR.
I seem to recall that cat saying that during his time there they did exhaustive research the upshot of which was that the CBC was politically mildly pro-Tory.
THAT. CANNOT. BE. WAS. NOT.
I won't be buying the book.
Debating whether or not the CBC leans left is like debating if it rains a lot in Vanouver. Life is too short to debate whether or not in rains a lot in Vancouver.
I share lookout's skepticism and bang-on, lookout: Lilley asked for no chapter and verse on that "monstrous fantasy". I like BL; he's a smart auto-didact but a pussycat in interviews with lib-lefties.
Liz, that precisely why we dumped Reader's Digest over a year ago. They no longer pretend to be objective.
cgh, point taken.
So Canadians have elected the least trustworthy Canadian to be Prime Minister 3 times in a row. What does that say about Martin, Dion, and Iggy? Democracy? They can't handle democracy!
That mealy mouthed bureaucrat had me wanting to throw my coffee cup at the computer screen. You tricked us, Kate; when a person never watches that garbage one tends to forget how badly they make the skin crawl. Yuk!
Like you lookout, I would give that fool not a moment of my time, everything he said was tainted with smug stupidity.
Like most Canadians, I don't care what that goof has to say because I would never give him the time of day. I don't want to pay for what he has to say! He can babble non stop but don't force me to fund his pathetic meanderings with my tax dollars.
James Moore is insecure, PMSH should get a smoker to fill his position; they have thick skins. CBC should be de funded, gutted and sold because it serves only it's elitist, human hating gang of thugs - on the good, honest Canadian taxpayers dime. End of discussion.
Mr. Stursberg was eminently unimpressive. I wish that Brian Lilley had asked him for some examples of the CBC's "centrist reporting."
Letting that comment go was a real weakness in this interview, as lookout, MND, and Jema54 have pointed out.
I strongly disagree with criticisms of Lilley. He made clear at the outset that he considers the CBC to be biased; when Stursburg mentioned that an "international" study found the CBC to be sightly favourable to the Conservatives it was near the very end of the interview, and Lilley made clear his doubt about the validity of the study. What's he supposed to do, hit him? Start yelling? Extend the interview and cut into Ezra's show? The CBC's bias, which Lilley (and Charles and Ezra) have been hammering away at ever since Sun News went on air, wasn't the subject of this particular interview anyway; the subject was Stursburg's book, and his criticisms of the (in effect biased and snotty) programming mindset of the CBC execs.
Totally disagree, he stands up to them 100% of the time. Engaging with guests, and treating them with respect, and letting them talk isn't a weakness, it's the bare minimum standard for a watchable show.
Notwithstanding your comment, EBD, with which I agree, I still would have appreciated Mr. Lilley asking Mr. Stursberg what, exactly, he meant by saying that the CBC is more centrist in its reporting.
I saw that interview this morning and had two thoughts about Stursberg.
1- He's working very hard not to piss people off who might buy the thing.
2- He has a highly selective way of recounting events and circumstances.
The thing that was absolutle bullshit was his recounting of that highly selective poll about CBC bias in reporting.
Citing that the CBC news was less critical of the Conservatives than of the LIberals and dippers, both the poll and Stursberg's intepretation completely fail to explain how that measure was made .... and you can bet your life it did not examine the full range of biases and malpractices that are the standard foundation for every CBC report.
From the selection of subject matter to the selective choice of details to be included and ignored to the outright fabrications to sequencing of subjects and to the snide attitudes of the on air talking heads. When it comes to CBC news coverage, it is in no way neutral ... it is as biased as they can make it because that IS what they do. They exist to reinforce their own views and prejudices and justify their own existance.
Stursberg's only factual points in the inerview were about the absolute shit that the entertainment production side of the CBC creates. The reasons he outlined about that were bang on... although he could have gone into much greater depth about that issue.
After all that ... his overriding point seems to have been to glorify his own role in making the prime time programming more successful ( a matter of opinion ) .... and to SELL HIS BOOK.
I doubt if it is really worth buying ... except for the sport of dissecting it.
CBC Bias:
The CBC has two types of bias and has since 1980 or so.
1. It tilts leftward.
2. It tilts toward the governing party.
No doubt when the Conservatives are in, this is the cause of some painful cognitive dissonance.
CBC proved that they were not biased bu focusing on the stories that they aired.
Their bias is most evident in the stories that they do not show,and also in the number of times and length of the stories aired.
Anything that denigrates the Conservatives will be aired and repeated. Stories that go against the 'progressive' outlook are buried quickly if they even make it at all.
Brian Lilley and Sun News; see Kate's header, here at SDA. If WR had noted the SDA header, it might have been sunny in Alberta today.
SDA gets results!
Alberta PC: 61
Wild Rose: 17
Well done, SDAers, well done.
Keep 'er up!
kroket:
Correct about McKitrick and others mentioned. Kady O and others "missed" the leaked e-mails story for about 2 weeks, before being forced to respond.
Gore's agiprop movies have been shown countless times along with "Who Killed Electric Car" and other enviro classics.
To CBC Ross McKitrick is a non-person.
I'm with Stursberg on the TV programming issue, but not with his disastrous attempt to increase CBC 2's audience by moving away from classical music. It's been disastrous even in his own terms (and not only for a Scruton-esque elitist like me who believes in the superiority of classical music). Between 2008-2010 ratings fell by 10% and changed from 3% market share to 2.7%, and the decline has continued since. Maybe adding commercials will help.
http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/todays-paper/Remembering+when+classical+radio+mattered/6533444/story.html
Sorry >
WRP 4 to 17
PC - by the skin of ther teeth in most other ridings.
We will keep it up, sorry :)