The Sound Of Settled Science

Maori are liars I see, Algore told me so!!!!!

So let me get this straight, are you saying the eco-parasites are lying.. shocker..

This isn't necessarily a sign that the oceans aren't rising, though. There are a lot of other things that could be going on, here--This might just be the one place in the world where the land is rising geologically in lockstep with the rising ocean levels.

It's a good place to go "Huh... That doesn't match my theories... I wonder what else is going on, here...", however.

There's more to the issue than just an unchanged shoreline. It could mean something, it might not. And, please note--I'm not advocating that AGW is real, either, just pointing out that this might not be as significant as one would think, on first glance.

C,mon now..In 100 years the fish need to drink,so they drink and the Ocean lowers.Then they have to pee and the ocean rises.Duh any fool would know that.

Gore and Dr. Fruitfly better hope history doesn't repeat itself when it comes to climate "change":

http://www.accuweather.com/en/home-garden-articles/earth-and-you/did-cold-weather-cause-the-sal/64322

Someone referenced Ross McKitrik on TVO's The Agenda. He was on on April 20. As usual, Paikin's got him in the arena, 3 to 1.

I've just started watching: McKitrik is FANTASTIC! He quotes real numbers. Steve looks worried. The other three simply emote with no hard data. Basically, so far, they've ignored McKitrik's data. What else is new?

http://ww3.tvo.org/video/176506/getting-current-green-energy-act

I'll just bet, that before this,gets out.. there'll be some genius who'll claim that that part of the ocean is staying at a lower level.. just like your bathtub is always lower at one side...

Oddly, here is another spot where the sea level seems to move in tandem with the adjoining land since 1841, however improbable that may seem, we are required to believe it.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/467007.stm

Either that or people who could steer a wooden sailboat where they wanted to go around the world with just a compass and a sextant didn't know how to properly mark mean sea level.

McKitrick made it very clear that solar and wind subsidies have gone belly up everywhere. (And that coal has not caused any appreciable increase in “particulate emissions” because the coal industry upgraded decades ago. When Paikin seemed to forget this, McKitrick politely and pointedly corrected him.) McKitrick’s opponents COULD NOT refute what he said. (Actually, as he gave the facts, one could hear someone—probably the Doncaster woman—breathing very heavily!)

The engineer, Paul Acchione, was sometimes on-side with the strong, calm, fact-based McKitrick. Tim Weis of The Pembina Institute and Deb Doncaster of the Community Power Fund, were particularly weak: they often looked like deer caught in the headlight. When confronting McKitrick’s hard facts, all they could do was spin, spin, spin. Pathetic. (I wonder if McKitrick will ever be asked on again.)

An interesting point: McKitrick pointed out that gravel roads cause huge amounts of “particulate emissions”: he suggested that a few million dollars of road upgrades, from gravel to hard top, would reduce emissions very economically.

No evidence to the contrary is evidence against manbearpig theories - repeat after me true belivers -

oh great ALgore, he who makes the oceans rise and fall at whim, he who holds the true knowledge of the heavens, he who fires and cools the skies for caron credits - heed the plea of thy disciple, forsake me not in the midst of the unbelivers and their lying realities - guide me through the valley of inconvenient truths to the true belief - lo through I walk through the valley of facts and figures I forsake not the true lie, thy DVD and rhetoric they comfort me in the face of evil truths. And I shall dwell in the house of Gaia forever, a faithful servant of manbearpig.

Let me fix that for you tim in vermont
Either that or people who could steer a wooden sailboat where they wanted to go around the world with just a compass and a sextant didn't know how to properly mark mean sea level. with what amounts to a marked rope and a rock

After all, just how accurate could a marked rope with a rock be?

This only shows that the old map need to be "adjusted".

bertie @ 2:02 PM takes today's commentary award.

Now the greenish will start revising maps, just like history.A good catch.

" ... McKitrick made it very clear that solar and wind subsidies have gone belly up everywhere. ..."

I long ago stopped watching TVO as Paikin is extremely left-wing biased , contrary to what he purports to be. If you watched Paikin's body language (furled brow and hawkish posture) when McKitrick pointed out facts , especially when McKitrick said McGuinty didn't pick a lane he picked a ditch , you could see Paikin was "distressed" , and he even tried to sidetrack McKitrick , but it didn't work.

To the true left wing nut, this means nothing. It will simply spur them to seek an explanation of this apparent anomaly through a conspiracy theory, or, you guessed it, global warming.

Brian, I agree about Steve Paikin. I watched the show with McKitrick at TVO’s web site.

The Agenda is skewed entirely to the left. Sometimes there are good panellists—too many, usually, and progressive-heavy—but the taxpayer subsidized, built-in bias is too annoying.

If the CBC and TVO would really like to increase their audience, they’d be inclusive, tolerant of difference, and diversity-loving. But they’re not.

Hey, the tide was out when the sat photo was taken ... /sarc

We certainly wouldn't let them dig canals these days - bad for the environment, don't you know.

Obviously, Obama's efforts to slow the rise of oceans has been successful. The planet has begun to heal.