Must Be "Celebrate The Charter Week"

healing circle time

Hate crime? Whitie was just paying the price for residential schools.

East Indian?

"Best keep your head down, sonny - we got Marlon Brando or some crazy indian usin' the highway for a shoot-em-up gallery..."
-- Firesign Theatre

I thought protected minority groups could NOT commit hate crimes??? I wouldn't take Kathy's bet at a thousand miles.Now if only the Indian had been at Calendonia,he would all ready have his new house and gubermint job.

It's the "human rights" version of Rock, Paper, Scissors.

praying for an asteroid!!!!!

That is hilarious Matt!

I can just imagine, the posters printed, the signs made, tweeting the location of the hate crime protest... all ready to go... then aw jeeze... and here I sewed a new flag out of my drapes and slip cover. I blame Bush..

Saith HuffPo: "Taavel would have been the first to broaden the conversation to be more than a polarization of hate vs. gay. He would argue that decades -- even centuries -- of systematic oppression of women, races, the mentally ill, the poor and others are as much to blame for his death as homophobia. Taavel knew it will take generations to fix oppression but he would not be deterred thanks to his trademark combination of sincerity, compassion, urgency and persistence."

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/benjie-nycum/raymond-taavel_b_1434774.html

So I guess it is a hate crime, but George Armstrong Custer is the real perp or something.

3 hours a day 5 days a week in the sweat lodge for you buddy boy.

Ok so, you got a member of a protected group ( GBLT)
killed by a member of another protected group(Indian).However the Indian is a member of another protected group ( mental disability). Does the Indian get off because he's covered twice which trumps the dead guy's lone membership? Oh, and throw in the hate crime aspect. Can a member of a protected group ever commit a hate crime?
This had just got to go to the Supreme Court!!

I side with the Indian.

His people were here for ten thousand years,while gays only came out of the closet in the last forty years.History sides with the Indian.

Circle sentence,some sweetgrass burning,then send him back to the asylum,and make sure at least a year goes by before they let him out on a day pass again.

No sense taking any chances.

Here's a scenario no one has posited as yet.
Suppose the Turd Burglar called the Indian an "effing redskin". That is a racial slur. Should the Indian get a lighter sentence because he was a victim of racism?
Questions, questions.....

Gaylord
"Should the Indian get a lighter sentence because he was a victim of racism?"

I think the Indian is the victim. His grandfather went to a residential school and screwed up generations by forcing them to read. The queer guy carries white man's guilt.

Anybody here brave enough to break up a fight involving someone from the Friendship Centre? Chalk this one up to suicide.

Scar- you have convinced me. Perhaps the queer guy was coming on to the Indian. In any event the Indian is the victim here as he belongs to two protected groups whereas the queer guy belonged to only one. besides, he was white which is a mark against him right there.

What happens if the aboriginal killer was a card-carrying Conservative?

It could happen.

This is a tough one! Life was easier when we had Svend Robinson and Phil Fontaine around to tell us how to think.

Perhaps Libby Davies can tell us, is she still a lesbian or a missing aboriginal inquiry spokeswomyn or both and will there be enough food to attract her?

And will we have to wear a pink wristband or a rainbow wristband? or both to show solidarity for the victim(s).

One thing is sure-lessons will not be learned.

I personally couldn't care less if the victim was light in the loafers or not, the gate keepers at the "forensic facility" (you can't call it an asylum anymore)sure as heck dropped the ball giving this nut-job an unsupervised pass in the first place. From all descriptions this dude should have been locked up with the shirt with long sleeves and the key thrown away, not allowed to wander around civilization. And they were surprised when he didn't return from his walkabout, duh! Somebody should be held responsible for this crap. Capital Health is worse than the parole board.

We know that Obamba hates Hispanic people after ensuring that Hispanic George Zimmerman became a racial political prisoner. The problem with Obamba is that he has proved to be a pathological liar who is well known for throwing his friends under the bus.

What to do?

America decided to vote race to prove they weren’t racist, and now they have no friends, and an African style dictator in the WH.

The CTV carried a story yesterday with some Liberal pundit claiming that Harper isn’t celebrating the Liberal Trudeau Charter because he is against freedoms & rights for Canadians.

The Media rolled with it attempting to make Harper out as some sort of Nazi, never once mentioning that the reason it has never been widely accepted by conservatives was because it didn’t go nearly far enough with respect to Individual Rights.

Fire them all.

Two protected minority groups, this is going to get ugly.

'I'm sorry your honour, I thought he said he wanted to give me a JOB'.

2:40 AM on a Monday night / Tuesday morning ? Wow.

Pretty well everybody I know refers to the Charter as Trudeau's ar$e-wipe.
Say 'aye" if you agree.

At least there will be a fewer boys getting molested with him gone.

And Dave got doodoo on the thread. Thanks Dave! Any reason for calling the guy who just got murdered a child molester?

For liberals/leftists (NEVER progressives) it's not about doing what's right but about who you can afford to throw under a bus. Now, I know Muslim trumps gay guy but where does the insane aboriginal fit in?

So is the 'crazy Indian' also a gay 'crazy Indian'? A few years back there was a spate of gay murders in Edmonton. Not much was made of them since the perps and the vics were both gay.

AYE !

The aboriginal was obviously a victim of entrenched racism. The queer should have never attempted to stop the fight either. That's a job for the police because they have special training for dealing with victims of systemic racism and hetero white male oppression.

Mark Steyn and Evan Soloman have it out over this among other issues.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/04/18/pol-video-mark-steyn-charter.html

Two thumbs way up to Yop at 5:57, new keyboard on order.
I can't wait to see how this one resolves , it's teachable moments like this that will help us all to understand just who is more equal.

they are victims of "soicumstance"

Jerome Howard

Judge Roy Bean would have ruled it something like this. The gay wasn't really a functioning human, so killing him was not, technically, a crime. On the other hand, we can't have Indians running around killing, so it's best to hang him.

If you marry into a victim group do you assume their get-out-of-jail-free status? I;m so confused.

We mere mortals really need the overlords of multicult to define their victim group hierarchy in a simple org chart we can post in public places.

CGH, Mark Steyn could wipe the floor with someone in his sleep!

Notice the comments splashing across the screen?

The bus driver in Vancouver who was viciously beaten by a Native man, wasn't (to our knowledge, gay) yet he basically got a get-out-of-jail-free-card. The courts have said that Natives are "over-represented" in the penal system, and this is a corrective measure. Yet - there are far more males in the system, which seems to suggest (by judicial thinking) that the courts are sexist in their sentencing. It would seem to me, that the reason there are more males in prisons, is because males commit most of the crimes; it would also seem to me that the reason there are a disproportionate number of Natives in jail, is because, for whatever reason, they are committing crimes at a higher rate.

Aye!

Indian would never trump gay, but "crazy" definitely shakes things up. This is why I hate "hate crimes" - the way it's defined it's almost a hate crime to not call it a hate crime.

That said, why can't it be a hate crime because the guy was white? Rhetorical question of course.

How come they don't just make a "white" and "gay" test and see how they score.

For sure the Indian probably has a percentage of guilty white in him. A blood test would do, so let’s pretend its 25% white, that would mean he would go to jail 1/4 the time a full 100% white male would go to jail.

Gays should be able to take some sort of psychological exam, of course that would be much easier to fake, but a series of tests should be able to narrow down the “x” % of gay in them.

Just say'n there must be an easier way for CHRC to convict whiteness, while preserving non-whiteness, or gayness than simply guessing.

Thanks so much, cgh, for the fantastic Mark Steyn/Evan Soloman interview. Evan Soloman was altogether partisan, fighting for his elitist, exclusionary view of the Charter and its impact (through his rose-coloured glasses), and missing “the Mark”, as in most of what Steyn said: what an unprofessional jerk Solomon is!

Mark was his usual, lucid, articulate, cutting-through-the-cr*p self: I’d have loved to hear him speak for much longer. After Soloman waxed eloquent about the protection of minority (mainly gay, as he endlessy repeated) rights against those of the majority—who have lost many rights because of the Charter—Mark pointed out that he and those who like his books are a minority: touché! Of course, that went sailing right over the CBC hack’s pointy, little head with its closed mind.

Damn the CBC! Maybe keep the classical music, but cut its public affairs funding to the bone. There should be a Charter right not to have to pay for the elitist propaganda the CBC spews 24/7. At least the majority spurns the CBC: hmmm, maybe that’s why the CBC hates ordinary Canadians so much . . .