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Cake is not one of those things I'm willing to lose my face over...

The word is sacrilege.

Kate, you should not say they will go to the lake of fire it makes alison redford aka Bob Rea in drag very frightened and prone to spewing pea soup as her head spins around.

Still not willing to lose my face over it Dave...

So what are you saying? Indiana Jones is God? We always had a cake shaped like a cross at Sunday School picnics. Lightning never struck.

Sheesh.

Only if they serve it to the heathens.

It looks like a fairly good likeness of the ark of the covenant to me. Unless it's laced with LSD or strippers come out of it or something I'm not really offended. God may or may not have a different POV on the subject, you'd have to ask Him.

I'm sorry, but I was 15 when Raiders came out, and Indiana Jones was so freaking awesome that it was the first time I can remember not wanting to be Captain Kirk. If I'd known such a cake was possible when I got married 20 years ago, I'd've gone to the altar in a leather jacket, fedora and bullwhip, and my wife would've been wearing that awesome Karen Allen dress, full stop.

Of course, if I'd suggested such a thing, we probably wouldn't have gotten to the altar in the FIRST place...

kakola, I guess since you said "Sunday school picnics" that makes you Protestant, and therefore... _confused_ about the importance of mystical symbolism, basic theology and so forth.

(It's also funny that you would happily eat a cross shaped cake -- ugh -- but consider transubstantiation absurd, but I digress...)

The (now lost to the mists of time) Ark of the Covenant is the holy of holies which contained the original tablets of the Ten Commandments. None dared even look upon it.

One of the honorifics of the Virgin Mary is "Ark of the Covenant" because she "contained" the Word of God, i.e. Jesus.

In other words, the Ark of the Covenant was THE most sacred, literally touched-by-God object in history.

This is the equivalent of making a cake of the Dome of the Rock, or a _crucifix_ cake (as opposed to a plain cross) or a baby Jesus cake or (to bring it down to a simple human level) one in the exact image of your beloved late [insert relative/pet here]

What a shame that even "conservatives" are so secularized, shallow and historically illiterate that they need this explained to them, and don't _immediately_ and instinctively recoil from such a sight, and instead see everything (as that couple did) in terms of a... Hollywood movie.

And Enkidu

I know you're trying to be glib and clever but:

We don't "have to ask" God what He would think about this. It's called the Book of Exodus in the Old Testament. 1 Samuel may be instructive also.

Hint: He wouldn't be thrilled...

Matter of fact, there's even a _movie_ about it. I think it stars some Charleton Heston dude. That should make it easy for everyone!

Keep trying, though.

Wow. Get over yourself. It's a replica of a prop from a movie.

Doubt if God even notices some replica. Likely some Talmudic fairy tale that He would.

I understand why Shaidle used (I think) the word "diabolical" about Jesse Jackson's "there is power in the blood of..." comments. That's setting up Trayvon Martin and others as, well, Jesus, using very specific religious terminology that can't be misinterpreted. (Jackson is supposed to be a Baptist minister of course.) This cake thing... I mean, do people go to hell just for being stupid and shallow and crass? I really would imagine that couple knew not what they did.

(syncro, dare I ask what you would be willing to lose your face over?)

Kathy @ 8:29 & 8:33, well said.

Takes the Cake
Should they all die now, it's only a cake?
Jewish weddings

To quote Bartok the bat from the movie Anastasia.

"Enough already with the glowing and the smoke people!"

Yukon Gold said it for me.

What got to me is the source story called it a "groom's cake". They have separate cakes for the bride and groom now? Who knew?

Black Mamba "do people go to hell just for being stupid and shallow and crass?"

Well, yes, if there is a God, he has made provision for human reconciliation to Himself, and we call spitting on symbols of that as stupid, shallow and crass.

Proudly displaying a crucifix dipped in urine is perhaps the most stupid, shallow and crass symbolic act of this type I can think of in the world of "art", but this cake is on the list too.

I guess the bigger question is "is anything sacred?" If you don't think so, why would you call yourself a conservative?

What's the difference between Moslems getting all bent out of shape over some cartoons, and Kathy huffing about a cake? Absolutely nothing, in my opinion, and that's kind of sad. Our side kind of loses the high ground.

I guess the moral is....

Unless you stand for something...you will fall for anything......

If THIS isn't the silliest waste of time ever posted at SDA,I don't know what is!

"What's the difference between Moslems getting all bent out of shape over some cartoons, and Kathy huffing about a cake? Absolutely nothing, in my opinion, and that's kind of sad. Our side kind of loses the high ground."

I perfectly understand muslims getting upset about cartoons that mock Mohammed. I've been offended by some anti-Christian cartoons. But I haven't killed or advocated killing the cartoonists. Kathy doesn't advocate killing the creators of the Ark cake.

I don't think not caring enough to have a strong opinion is the moral high ground, more like a moral numbness.

I'm not sure what sacrilege could be interpreted by this. It is a movie prop replica and only a biblically referenced interpretation at best.

Maybe an anti- Harrison Ford display?

As far as sacrilege goes it seems much better than a Crucified Christ upside down in a bottle of urine cake. Mohammed with a turban bomb instead?

Don’t know but it looks like a pretty decent work of art by someone, and expensive to make. it does take the cake in unique.

It's a movie prop. I don't have a problem with it. Call me a secularized Catholic. Maybe I haven't been listening in church, but I never heard of the ark before the movie.

If there was replica of the ark in every synagogue, though, that would be a different story. Would be like having a tabernacle cake.

Having a groom's cake is the reason they're going to hell.

"I guess the bigger question is "is anything sacred?" If you don't think so, why would you call yourself a conservative?"
Posted by: Rick in BC at April 28, 2012 12:05 PM

If you got that from what I wrote, why do you call yourself literate (if you do)?

"Having a groom's cake is the reason they're going to hell."

No kidding. I bet they had "Jack and Jill" showers too... Only way you'd get me to one of those is at gunpoint (and you better be cocked and locked too).

Though I disagree with much of her theology, KS is correct about this: "In other words, the Ark of the Covenant was THE most sacred, literally touched-by-God object in history."
I wouldn't do it. Maybe God isn't offended by this but why take the chance? He has a long memory...

I'm not saying I approve. I think it sucks. I also think it's a manifestation of stupidity and cultural shallowness, which includes a lack of a sense of the sacred, rather than depravity and evil. Is that clearer?

Retribution

THOUGH the mills of God grind slowly,
Yet they grind exceeding small;
Though with patience he stands waiting,
With exactness grinds he all.

Friedrich von Logau, (Schlesien, Germany ~1604-1655)

translating a hexameter from Adversus Mathematicos (Against the Mathematicians) by the Greek sceptic philosopher, Sextus Empiricus

The last time I checked marriage was still considered a covenant. So evidently the cake was supposed to be symbolic.

Was Harrison Ford invited to the wedding and was anyone consumed by a pillar of fire, when queried about impediments to the marriage? Must have been the Nazi Gestapo agents in the back row...

John 6:60-61 60 Many of his disciples, when they heard it, said, "This is a hard saying; who can listen to it?" 61 But Jesus, knowing in himself that his disciples murmured at it, said to them, "Do you take offense at this?

Cheers

Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief

1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”

Black Mamba >

I see the point you’re trying to make, and it’s true, in a shallow world context.

I’ve been to plenty of cowboy/western themed weddings which I’m sure would be mocked heavily by non participating traditionalists as shallow. In fact it’s just culturally traditional in many parts of the west and honors western traditional.

As far as other commenter’s sacrilegious claims, even the Jewish Spielberg movie interpretation of the Ark of the Covenant could be considered sacrilegious. The problem is that if we all bent to others views of morality we could end up living Saudi Arabian style, entertained with walking around a moon rock in a burka.

Black Mamba: Yes, your follow-up was clearer, and I apologize if what I thought was presented as a counterfactual question was something you would take personally.

But I'd respectfully suggest the ad hominem attack approach is never the way to go. Just makes it look like you have an anger problem or are, heavens, a liberal.

The fact that people are actually upset about this is the only real news story here.

But seriously, the cake is awesome, but probably tastes like crap. If there's anything to be offended about, it's by a cake that is all style no substance.

Well, Rick, it did seem a bit personal, but perhaps it wasn't intended that way. My apologies. Just don't imply I'm a liberal ever again :-)

The only story here is that people are actually offended by this.

My only problem is with cakes that are meant to look good rather than taste good. (Fondant tastes terrible)

This site is trolling me... I'll take my leave.

Every year I go to Walmart to ask for a chocolate Jesus on a cross.

The (now lost to the mists of time) Ark of the Covenant is the holy of holies

Hardly lost. Guess you're the one confused...

Rev_11:19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament...

Don't get it .... it's a freeking cake .... big deal.

Apparently those with Talmudic superstitions do see something wrong.

After Kathy explained it I understand her point better.

I felt something the same about those Quentin Tarantino movies "Kill Bill" and its sequels. It seemed to me that Tarantino, having exhausted all the mockery and disrespect of Christianity he could possibly come up with, decided he needed new material and so began disrespecting other people's religions.

Apropos of Kate's Easter reference, this year a kid's cartoon movie about the Easter Bunnie was released. Called "Hop". Stars that odious Russel Brand creature. Chock full of liberal goodness (the themes are so inevitable any more it makes my teeth ache) and contains NOT ONE SINGLE REFERENCE to Christianity, churches, or indeed any religious thing at all. Willie Wonka had more religion in it.

I highly don't recommend it, except perhaps for an advanced course in Hollywood propaganda spotting.

Jeez, this just isn't my thread. (Everyone's okay with "Jeez", right?)

No, it's spelled 'Geeze' :)

BTW, I got your chocolate Jesus right here: here.

Kathy when we all die I'm sure we will get our just deserts.

Well, I thought they made an excellent likeness.

MIT made a scale model of the Ark and ended up having to dismantle it. Aparently it would build up large charges of static electricity.