Anarchy 101

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In 2012 it's somewhat hard to believe that all of this:

is happening because of this:

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h/t Daniel C.


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Kiddies who feel entitled to their entitlements wil always be highly resentful when an adult tries to make them pay a wee bit more for their mostly free lolly.

Show you got a pair Jean:

1. Order all schools to opened and all staff to show up for work.

2. Fire anyone who doesn't comply.

3. Use full police force and full judicial powers on any illegal protesters who fail to comply with the government's orders.

It's time to cut them loose.

And they want to seperate and become their own country?

325 dollars a year. If the amount of time they spent protesting was spent at a minimum wage job they would have more then recovered the cost of the tuition increase.

The level of expectations rises to meet the level of handouts. Take away even a tiny part of the handouts and the unmet expectations cause people to scream blue murder and to riot in the streets.

The fact that, after the proposed fee increases, Quebec will still have the lowest student fees doesn't enter into the discussion.

Removing handouts causes outrage amongst those who have come to believe that the handout is a human right. End of story.

A better beginning to the story would have been to restrict the handouts in the first place.

It is time to suspend the semesters where the students are not attending class, pay the staff for actual teaching days and make arrests for acts of civil disobedience, with applicable fines. Why are they even tolerating this crap, time to get back to business. Unfortunately some students will get caught in the crossfire, but that hasn't seemed to matter when it is the citizens and business that are affected.

So, Charest is going to spread the tuition increases over seven years. How nice of him to be so free with someone else's money. After all, the rest of Canada is paying for this. Suck it in, Charest and get tough with these entitled little hooligans.

Steve Smith, well said! The way I always explain it is thusly: Whether it be children or adults, what are initially privileges soon become expectations, and then rights, and then human rights over time. Such is human nature.

But more than a few Quebecers (and fellow British Columbians I suspect) take the entitlement mentality to an entirely new (and truly pathetic) level!

These clods aren't smart enough to go out and riot on their own - someone is setting them up. Find those someones and charge them with inciting riot, and remove them from the equation. For a minimum of oh, about fifteen years.

To be fair... 8k for an Arts degree that will get you nowhere in life is a supreme rip-off.

I might as well start preparing to send my kids back to NL for schooling. Sheesh..... Friggin McGuinty Ontario....

Again, when people prattle on about the legacy we are leaving future generations ("Think of the children!"), I generally respond that it seems to be just what those future generations want.

If the younger generation of voters were up in arms about ballooning debt and deficits, demanding massive reductions in state spending to curb it all, I might be a lot more impressed.

But that's not what they want at all; they appear to want to not only keep up the state largesse but to expand it.

Accounting for inflation, my father paid more for his university tuition 60 years ago than students pay today.

His parents were dirt poor. He could not afford to buy textbooks, so had to go the library whenever he needed to look at a text. He wrote his bicycle 30km each way every day to university, and hitched rides in the winter or walked.

Got through university, got two graduate degrees, and had a very successful career.

None of this is made up.

Many students today are spoilt brats who have had it too good, and don't have the first clue what it means to work hard.

I have but one question. Why? Oh why sweet Jesus don't they have Fanasty Riot Police Camp!!!! You know you fly out. They give you 3 or 4 days of boot camp. Then you get your own shield, helmet, and nice oak beating stick. Then you get to go and smack some heads. I'm pretty handy on a horse so maybe I could get to do that.

I think it would be a money maker.

I wonder if these brats think we care? I'm related to one and I can tell you HE is hardly struggling, doesn't work and feels entitled. However most of all, he just enjoys acting like an a$$. It's a generation of engrained entitlement. Way to go Jean! Way to go socialism!

My Canada does not necessarily include Quebec -- in fact, less and less.

Down here on the Rock, university tuition has been held constant by the provincial government. There is only a little agitation to reduce it (but yes, there is some). Agitation for "affordable housing" is considerable, though there haven't been big demonstrations about it yet. Of course, most people who rent once to students will never do it twice, which doesn't help the student situation (as I am one who did rent, I somehow can't feel badly about their situation). With a little luck, the provincial government will introduce rent controls. For the hilarious damage that that does (yes, especially to the poor and disadvantaged), one may consult Thomas Sowell's book on economics.

I agree with kakola.
I know some are annnoyed, but this is anarchy.
Watching the video you know perfectly well that no normal middle-class kids are angry enough to turn to violence against police.
The boldness of their actions beggars any understanding I have about life in Canada, and
I say the police should take steps that are
appropriate.

No young person in Canada (in fact, no one of any age) should be allowed to attack the police.
Anarchy requires a tough reponse from both the police and the government.

If I was the parent of one of those kids, I'd drag the little bugger away and then lock him/her in a bedroom, or the furnace room, on bread and water for a week.
In fact, after the criminals are moved from Kg Pen to Millhaven or wherever, use the cells at the Pen for anarchists and the spoiled brats as well.
They'd be weeping and wailing in less than a month.

Doesn't Quebec have a Liberal Provincial Government and 60 of the 75 Federal MPs are NDP? Now the police are in the streets battling rioters. And people wonder why I vote Conservative.

Hi sda hater people.

I am a Quebecois leftist separatist Harper hater and even I admit the students are wrong on this one.

Paying 1500$ over 5 years is no big deal.

When I was a student I was doing an easy 10K during the summer with low pay job. It is not big deal. It won't prevent anyone who really wants to go to school.

This pisses me off; they only show the cops using the small collapsible batons and a little pepper spray.

We westerners give them money for better equipment and tasters so why won't they use them, where are the police dogs?

There's nothing better than watching them take a good beat-down on Utube, but if you’re going to treat them with kid gloves we should cut off the funding.

Use water canon. It is uncomfortable for them. Something they are unaccustomed to.

This is the mob mentality Ann Coulter talks about in her book Demonic. They need to be met with equal violence. You can't let them get away with it.

As a contrast to this madness I happened to hear a medical student interviewed in the U.S. recently. His annual tutition at one of the better schools is 50K. He has a year to go and presently has a student loan of 500K. He will be a specialist when he graduates and will/should make some serious dinero. He is treating his student loan like a mortage. It will take him decades to pay off but he fells the debt will be worth it. Investing in himself.

Imagine if times got tough . . . .

Give 'em a whiff of the grape.

Bonjour Québecois NDP seperatiste - how is the general mood there? Do Quebeckers in general support the students? What does the French language media say about the issue? Where do you think this is headed? Cheers and thanks

Take another look at the video and any stills that are in the various media and note the red flags, some of which have the anarchist logo. Have the Bolsheviks and anarchist allied to make the progressive Charest back down. Very rare that these two groups combine.

There is much more behind this than a measely tuition hike.

Agreed Ken. I suggest it's academia, the unions, the separatists and the mob.

We'll have to see what Erik's friend comes up with from his end...

Hi SDA friends. I am Quebecois and a "Quebecois leftist separatist" hater and fan of Stephen Harper.

These arsehole students are about to loose their year over 300 bucks. After having already paid this years' tuition, books, room and board etc. what economic sense is there in bitching over such a modest increase? This is nothing more than a front for the usual leftist/anarchist/OWS crowd for agitation. Bring down the law on the criminals and bring it down hard.

Please oh please ROC, wall off Quebec City, give them the Charlevoix and kick them out of Canada. Make a good offer to McGinty and maybe he'll join them.

Bring us the Tea Party.

Quebec. I fart in their general direction.

Mad Maxxx,

If there isnt a 1st person shooter with that theme, then I'm making one!

Level 1 - tutorial, learn how to switch weapons between baton, boot, and brass knuckles. Disperse the crowd of latte drinking effetes who think the government should offer a subsidy to cappucino drinks.

Level 10 - disperse and arrest union goons for shutting down access to oil sands.

Upgrades include -- rubber bullets, the no bruise billy club, and A10 strike with media blackout.

These clods aren't smart enough to go out and riot on their own - someone is setting them up.

Of course not! The professors are putting them up to it! If Quebec universities start charging retail, they're finished!

The only people daft enough to pay retail for a degree from a French Quebec university are "international" students, also known as Muslims who want a student visa because they have no other convincing explanation why they should be allowed into Canada. (They quickly drop out and disappear into the ghettos of Montreal, though not before a Quebec university gets its cut in the form of a semester's worth of tuition for a student they didn't have to teach.) There aren't enough of those to keep the likes of the University of Montreal or the University of Quebec system afloat.

Young Lower Canadians with any ambition in life, if they must go to university, go to McGill, where they get an English-language education making it that bit easier to get the hell out of Quebec. You don't enroll at the French universities unless you don't speak a word of English or no other university will take you. If normal people have to pay retail, the French universities will be out of business in no time.

The profs at the French universities know that. Your average French Quebec university professor, a baby-boomer professional separatist with no savings, recent experience in an honest job, or training for anything resembling honest labour, doesn't plan to give up his entitlements without a fight.

(Least of all now he knows Jean Charest can ask his girl in Edmonton for the money any time, and Alison will be only to happy to make the Alberta rednecks cough it up. I digress.)

Of course, he has no plans to do any of the fighting. The children, not without reason, are furious that papa sold the family farm to pay for his drinking sprees (not that he'd have bothered paying for their education even if he still had the money--that's what the English are for). Convincing them to riot is child's play.

More than that Ken, I saw some enviro-anarchist flags too. Those are green and black.

As opposed to your anarcho-feminist flags - pink and black, and the run-of-the-mill red and black anarcho-communists.

Apparently ... a lot of Kaybeckkers think it is still 1970.

Has anyone ever looked into what qualifications are necessary to teach at a university in Quebec? Or to be an engineer in Quebec? Might be an eye opener

As Dick Slater said, the truth.

Quebec has not had a reality check since Turdo days when Quebec grabbed the keys to the treasury and has lived high on the hostages in all other Canadian Provinces ever since.

I would think that John Cheerio is very happy that in the last few days Alberta dished him up some fresh beef and a cow to milk.

As my brother would say "nobody can use you for a doormat if you won't lay down!" Squawking at Quebec will never do any good, actions speak, words don't; Quebec won another election: why should they care what the host (ROC) says - they know that the host will not ask them to leave or kick them out, they can trash the place and the host will say 'Come back soon, have a nice day'.

Just had a nice visit from my 20 year old son. He's working at a great job with a future in welding. We just talked about his cost of living, and his baby on the way, and the amout of taxes he'll be paying.
And these brats in Quebec want more handouts for what?
Makes me sick.
BTW...sure heard a lot of English in that vid...guess the language police just work 9 to 5.

flame throwers PULLEEZ!!!!!

Time to cut Quebec loose. The rest of Canada can't afford them.

The really burning question suggested by the video is whether the balding, middle-aged looking guy in the frozen frame of the inactive video is a college student. Geez, he looks like the identical twin brother I never had . . . and I'm 58 years old! Quebec's university students have bigger problems than a nearly negligible tuition increase if they haven't started to get a life when they're as old as that guy.

On a somewhat disjointed note, whatever happened to the dignified, rooted, religious Québécois of Hilda Van Stockum's _Canadian Summer_, one of my favorite children's books?

How marketable is a degree from a Quebec French university in the real world?Probably somewhere similar to a high school diploma from any other province.So where do all these Franco-Phone geniuses end up? You guessed it working in government Bi-Lingual positions that only they can qualify for due to artificial language requirements.May the soul of Pee-air Turdeau rot in Hell for what he has done to this country!

Steven Alison and Brad, are you listening, time to let the little Perfects fend for themselves without the tucking in every night from the taxpayers of Canada they hate so much.

I talked with an anglo engineer who has worked in Montreal all of his career, when they recruit engineers they always go to Europe.

Remember also, that in Quebec, these low tuition rates are available only to Quebecois and any and all international students from the francophone world. Yes, if you are from France or Belgium, for example, you don't pay the International Tuition Rate (as you would if you are German or from the USA)...you pay the same low Quebecois rate.

Because Quebec's loyalties are linguistic and are to and only to, francophones. They interact with, do busines with, set up research teams with and only with francophones. No-one else.

If you are from Ontario or Alberta or anywhere in the ROC, you pay double the Quebec rate. That's because you are 'Other'; you aren't a francophone.

These students consider that the ROC 'owes' them; a majority of Quebecois consider that Canada holds Quebec hostage and takes all its money. Incredible, I know, but that's what they have been brainwashed into believing. They don't seem to be aware that Quebec has no economic infrastructure of its own and engages, not in Investment or Production but only in Consumption. Courtesy of the ROC.

Quebec is an expensive exotic pet that Canada doesn't need. Cut 'em loose.

Canada-wide referendum:
Quebec should separate.
Yes/No

How long do these brats expect to have a free ride?

Mandatory economics course for the lot of them!

Canada-wide referendum:
Quebec should separate.
Yes/No

They'll never go on their own. The question put forward must be,

For the survival of the country: Quebec should be blockaded.
Yes/No

Et, that was interesting information.

I'm a FaceBook neophyte. Does anyone know if there is a way to establish a poll on a FB site? Let me know - maybe we could poll everyone in Canada (on FB) regarding the desire to have have Quebec remain a province of Canada.

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