What We Really Need Is Democracy

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With totalitarian kidnappers to vote for;

Egyptian judges have referred 16 Americans and 27 others linked to NGOs for trial, accusing them of using foreign funds to encourage disruptive protests. Among the targeted NGOs whose assets and funds have been seized are the U.S. government-funded International Republican Institute and National Democratic Institute.

Shocking! Appalling! Unprecedented!
Via Drudge

26 Replies to “What We Really Need Is Democracy”

  1. Say, would they be the same NGOs screaming for more Muslim immigration, welfare, carbon taxes, gun control and free birth control pills? Funded by George Sorros and TIDES, Pew Charitable Trust and etc?
    Shame they aren’t getting on with their friends the Islamists.

  3. Why is it these leftie crackpots think they can waltz into any country(with taxpayer bucks mostly)and not have to obey the laws of that country?? Of course they mis-appropriated funds! That’s how lefties work. I grease your butt,you grease mine. Oh well.At least they aren’t in the USSR of A,trying to drag it further down the rat hole.

  7. Muslim Brotherhood warns US aid cut may affect Egypt’s peace treaty with Israel. That would be blackmail. They want the US to help fund those who would destroy the US. Interesting!

  8. “Most of the economic aid for the Arab Spring countries — $770 million — would go to establish a new “Middle East and North Africa Incentive Fund,”
    See how the lie,”Arab Spring” has been repeated so often it has become the truth.
    Typical Egyptian blackmailers,haven’t changed since Sadat,give us more aid or we’ll attack Israel”.
    So,arm the Israelis to the teeth,and let’em attack. Might as well finish this charade once and for all rather than let these bastards bleed us to death for the next hundred years.

  9. A real POTUS who could distinguish friends from enemies would deliver this ultimatum to the IB now in charge of the Egyptian wasteland: Hand over all US citizens held hostage or we hand the deeds for the Sinai, Gaza and West Bank back to Israel with free passage to Egypt for almost all inhabitants contained therein.

  11. John, who says Israel wants any of that back? They don’t want most of the West Bank back, and they’ve got a big wall to keep it out. Taking it back would mean taking back a large population including terrorists. They certainly don’t want Gaza back; that’s why they abandoned the hell-hole in the first place.
    The point here is that the Brotherhood is saying that Israel going to war or not depends on bribery from Washington. Imagine how all this is going down in Israel. No surprise to them, they would have seen all this coming long before Mubarak toppled over. Why didn’t Hillary and The One? There’s simply no excuse for POTUS to be this incompetent at managing foreign affairs. It should be noted that they didn’t start this business of Bribery For Peace, but they’re stuck with the consequences.
    Laurel and Hardy applies here. Israel is very justified in turning to the US and saying, “Here’s another fine mess you’ve got me into.”
    Now as to the main issue, the Brotherhood wants foreign NGOs out of their affairs. Would these be the same NGOs that we want out of our affairs, namely Gateway? Why is it acceptable for us to want to kick out our foreign influences, but not Egypt? Other than the fact that the Brotherhood promises a regime we will despise, that is.

  12. Newsflash, 99% of NGO’s are getting tax dollars. Demand your MP work to have them all defunded. Let them get real jobs instead of using our money to go to the UN and work against our interests. I hope they all get life sentenances, in the Moslem hell hole….

  13. “anti-Western minister for international cooperation” surely has to be ultimate in oxymoronic job descriptions.

  14. cgh
    If you read my comment (“free passage” wasn’t voluntary), you would see that the real estate came without those currently residing there. Uninhabited by the invented people, those lands have high defensive strategic value. I fully understand why Gaza was excised.

  15. No wonder John McCain was squirming yesterday when he was asked about this by a Fox News rep. and he appeared to be backing the payout to Egypt.

  16. I know, it’s a Jewish word, but you gotta admire the Muslim Bro’s chutzpah!
    Hand over the dough or the already rescinded peace treaty with Israel will really, really, really be even more rescinded.
    But you can understand their confusion. After all, even under Bush and the lovely intelligent fool Condi, Fatah (the good terrorists) was being funded, armed, and TRAINED by the US. And Hamas, too, indirectly via the PA.
    Can this really be true? The US is paying for the Taliban’s office in Qatar (? country).
    It’s the laughing and head-shaking in the muslim world that I find most painful as I recall the German tourists at Fawlty Towers: However did they win the war?

  17. The Barbary Pirates have made a come back. No Jefferson this time.
    The MSM will try to hide this as well for their messiah Obama.
    Obama of course as is his want will throw Americans to the wolves & pretend nothing is amiss with his Muslim “friends”.
    No Nightline or CNN coverage on these hostages.
    Obama wants war against Israel anyway.
    Besides this is looting against the infidel A Jihad for allah.
    Any sane Government would raid them , than take every penny they have till the squealed like a pig.

  19. Imprisoning members of NGO? Shooting them perhaps? What is to dislike? Would that we had the guts to do the same.
    It would be wonderful if Greenpeace or WWF were one of those NGOs.
    It all reminds me of jihadist terrorists blowing up the UN office in Baghdad a few years ago. Very occasionally our enemies do good things.

  20. Screw them all.
    The Arab nations cannot exist with any sort of modern semblance without western aid and intervention.
    The Nile delta cannot properly feed the 81 million who now reside there. We have artificially propped up their population with aid, technology, and expertise.
    Cut them off and they die off back into the Stone Age the hard way. We can easily ban all immigration including student and work visas overnight. Why we are putting up with their cultural crap and regional strife’s like a bunch of rent’a monkeys I’ll never know.

  21. John, and if they don’t leave willingly, what do wish to do? Shoot them? Try a workable solution next time. Remember, we fought a war to prevent the expulsion/genocide of populations. You need think through this a bit more before recommending some death march.
    dmorris: “So,arm the Israelis to the teeth,and let’em attack.”
    Think again. That’s the last thing Israel wants to do. The only thing it has ever wanted was peace with its neighbours. So now a US created problem is to be transposed into an Israeli military offensive? Oh yes, that worked oh so well in 1981 didn’t it? And Israelis know it better than anyone, which is why they were willing to sign the Oslo Peace Accord.
    So explain to me why Israel should do the United States’ dirty work for it? After all, it’s US incompetence which led to this situation. So why should Israel have to pay the price?

  22. cgh
    All of Israel’s compromises and withdrawals have been to appease the US and Europeans in the name of seeking peace with its neighbours and now they are no closer to that goal than ever. The flimsy peace was based on US aid and their “ally” Mubarak. There can be no peace with the Islamists, so in reality, Israel might just as well be at war now. A coordinated war of attrition would defeat Israel. Israel can only survive again by taking pre-emptive action at some point.
    The Palestine “State” had ample opportunity to establish but they really weren’t interested were they? I trust the Israelis to humanely treat the Palestinians much better than if Israel were defeated and the fate of the defeated Jews were in the hands of the Palestinians.
    I agree that the US is mostly responsible for the problem. They should (but won’t, under this administration) participate in securing Israel. Taking-back the Sinai would at least buffer Israel from Egypt and isolate Gaza from their new “friends” (Egypt wouldn’t have anything to do with them under Mubarak).
    I’m not sure that the boxed-up refugees of Gaza are any better off there as opposed to being back as refugees elsewhere in the Islamic wastelands but the “international community” might not like it if someone were to actually address the problem. Beneath their warm and fuzzy outward appearances, they would prefer that the Israelis were once again the refugees.
    As to how realistic my solution was, it’s just a matter of time before the next war breaks out and an intact corridor between a hostile Egypt and Gaza is not someting Israel can tolerate.

  23. “When The Nazi’s Show Up To Kidnap The Communists. You’re supposed to pray for an asteroid – not pick a favourite!”

  24. John: “A coordinated war of attrition would defeat Israel.”
    No it won’t. Nasser tried that, 1970-72, and it was a disastrous failure. Even more than Six Day War, it’s the key reason why the Egyptian military never wants to go to war with Israel again.
    “Taking-back the Sinai would at least buffer Israel from Egypt…”
    The problem is not the Egyptian military. Without foreign advisors, Israel can take it out in about two days. The problem is the new enemy within that such an expansion would create. What Israel needs is no military occupying Sinai. If any Egpytian military does that, like ’67 that will trigger an immediate attack. And like ’67, it will result in a much better outcome than ’73. Remember, the closer Israel fights to its own borders the more effective it is because of mobilization times and distances. In ’73, the Bar Lev line was simply a deathtrap that the IDF spend hundreds of lives trying to re-establish during the first three days.
    “…and now they are no closer to that goal than ever.”
    Not quite so. A host of nations sent troops to fight in ’73, and it’s fair to say that a large number of them will never do so again. Prominent among such nations are Jordan, Morocco and Iraq. There is in fact a fair amount of cleavage among the Arab League regarding actual policy re. Israel.
    “They should (but won’t, under this administration) participate in securing Israel.”
    Yes indeed. This is the most hostile administration to Israel since Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger. Unlike those two, the current administration has no capacity to rectify its mistakes.
    “The Palestine “State” had ample opportunity to establish but they really weren’t interested were they?”
    Absolutely no question about it. That filthy lying little rat Yasser Arafat launched the first intifada before the ink was even dry on Oslo Accord, and he did so purely for selfish political reasons: 1. he was losing control over the PLO, and 2. to keep the Hamas fanatics in line under his leadership, expecting that Israel would do his dirty work for him and kill a bunch of them off.
    What Israel has come to understand, and the rest of the world only dimly fathoms, is that there is no solution to the question of Palestinians. Israel recognized this, and having a great deal more experience with this question concluded that the only stopgap which works was to wall them out.
    “I’m not sure that the boxed-up refugees of Gaza are any better off there…”
    Again, you are absolutely correct here. But, all of the neigboring states want them even less. Which is precisely why they are stuck in the world’s largest prison. No Arab state will take them in for ANY price. Jordan was forced to fight a civil war in 1971 over precisely this question (hence the origin of Black September).
    Remember, Israel has an absolute military superiority over all of its neigbours combined, and that ascendancy has only grown greater since ’73, not less. Israel’s neighbours know that ’73 was the last chance they had to confront Israel militarily, and their bacon was saved only at the last minute by Henry Kissinger. So, the only way they can keep Israel preoccupied is by ensuring that Israel is always confronted by the Palestinian issue. They will therefore NEVER allow the question to be solved on any permanent basis.
    In short, there is no solution until the Palestinians themselves decide to stop being the puppets of their cynical Arab neigbours.

  26. One of them is Ray laHood’s kid. He’s the guy that’s made trucker’s lives miserable and with the added costs from his horsedung, you’ve had to pay more for your stuff that comes by truck.
    Sometimes, you like to think that God gets even…

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