48 Replies to “Scratch Vancouver Public Library”

  2. Hmmm, Libby wouldn’t be involved in setting this up, would she? In any case, Himmler and Eichmann would approve.

  5. Just forwarded my letter to the Mayor to Ezra L and Sun Media gurus. Let’s get this atrocity into the headlines.

  7. The Library staff that approve this probably don’t do background checks, or know enough, or who knows, maybe they even support it.
    But once Vancouver city officials know what’s going on, if they let this poisonous hatemongering continue in a tax-funded public library, they will be disgracing themselves and their city.

  8. Now this could happen to any guy like me
    And could happen in any town like this
    So may I say to each of you most gratef’lly
    As I throw each one of you a kiss
    This is my kind of town, Vancouver is
    My kind of town, Vancouver is
    My kind of people, too
    People who smile at you
    But seriously folks, have you ever tried to get an Ann Coulter book at VPL? They have them all and the catalogue says that they’re on the shelves.
    The only problem is that even the librarians can’t find them.And I believe that they are sincere. People who smile at you, have re shelved them amongst the Tibetan Love songs or the circular cabinet for the good of their fellow citizens.
    No coincidence indeed.

  9. @Rick – library worker = city employees’ union member. As an aside, the only library employee I ever met personally told me that GW Bush was a millenarian who was going to deliberately usher in Armageddon.
    Oops, she was completely full of $hit, but there ya go.

  10. dmorris, I like the way you think. ~:D
    Posted by: The Phantom at September 13, 2011 1:46 PM
    You fellows always had an eye for the hotties…

  16. I would be cautious about complaining about this. The reason is I think we want public institutions to be neutral about things. As soon as something gets cut off because of pro-Palestinian, then someone complains about an Ann Coulter meeting or similar. In Ottawa, a film on Iran was temporarily rejected by the National Library until James Moore stepped in. My main point is libraries are public buildings and I don’t want libraries censoring things even if they are things I disagree with.

  17. LindaL said: “I would be cautious about complaining about this. The reason is I think we want public institutions to be neutral about things.”
    You’re such a nice lady Linda. The problem is, not only are they not neutral, they go ‘way over backward the other way to show how non-judgmental they are towards our more coffee-colored citizens. Try to get that room for a barmitzvah, prayer meeting or a quilting bee, see how far you get.
    However your point is well founded, and it would indeed be nice if public employees would leave off censoring things. Maybe if hell freezes over.
    In this case, IMHO letting the Ruling Elite know that we don’t appreciate paying for Jew-hatred meetings in public buildings is a worthy endeavor.

  18. It’s disgusting that a tax-funded venue is going to be used for this hate-fest. The Library should cancel it and someone should have to account for how it was allowed to be let out for this purpose

  19. Wonder why Vancouver “youth” easily run amok and try to tear their city to the ground. Liberalism eats its own.

  20. Reasonable points, Linda, but they draw the line all the time. A neo-Nazi meeting wouldn’t be allowed at the library, and these Marxo-fascists aren’t much different than any other form of hatemonger. They can have their free speech, but a public library or any tax-funded place isn’t the venue. They should rent a basement and have their slime-in there

  21. It looks to me that the library, at 350 West Georgia Street, is in Vancouver Centre based on maps from Elections Canada and Google.
    This riding is held by Hedy Fry according to the parl.gc.ca site.

  22. “It’s disgusting that a tax-funded venue is going to be used for this hate-fest….” – Rich
    That statement could apply to all public educational facilities, particularly college campuses, and the CBC.
    Could someone please tell me why with e-books, new and used book stores, and the Internet, public libraries are considered worthwhile? Aside from breaching copyright and subsidizing almost exclusively those that can afford to pay for reading material, why have they not joined the horse and carriage industry?

  23. @LindaL – no; Rick and The Phantom nailed it. Libraries are not the appropriate venue for private meetings held by hatemongers, period. I pay taxes and won’t friggin’ stand for it. If the Mayor doesn’t respond AND MAKE IT GO AWAY I will be burning my Library card outside on that day and never enter those formerly hallowed doors again.
    And if they are *ever* seen to deliberately censor conservative literature, I will run for Mayor myself on a platform of hiring non-union workers for the library system – and a few other good planks for my platform I could mention. Showing fear is not the way to go here – the time for fence-sitting is well over.

  24. I had a similar experience with city of Regina facilities about two years ago – on their bulletin boards were advertisements for the local Israeli Apartheid Week. I brought it to the attention of the head of the facilities for the city and those posters were taken down that day. I worded my opposition very strongly (polite but did not pull punches). I was impressed with the action of the city employees, but you have be strong in your message to them.

  25. “but you have be strong in your message to them.”
    yuppers, coupla RPG’s strong, and goodbye library

  27. Of course Liberal Canada has a history of publicly funding subtle anti-Semite propaganda through the CBC as with “Little Mosque on the Prairie”.
    Your tax dollars also fund the tactical legal arm of Islam though the CHRC.
    Hama’s is banned in Canada in farcical name only. They freely march at will on Ottawa and burn effigy’s (simulated murder) of the prime minister as they did with Stephan Harper a few years ago. Remember dancing in the streets with EGAL the Canadian gay lunatic society of the left. Arrests zero. Instead the police arrested a few Jews who had the guts to step out to peaceably protest the police not enforcing the law by arresting members of a supposedly banned terrorist organization.

  28. …not to mention the White Supremacist goons marching in lockstep with the leftist Judaeophobes in Calgary – a phenomenon I predicted about 3 years before it occurred.
    Sometimes it’s hell being right all the time.

  29. @GYM – not a bad idea at all – you’d take out some of the top idiots at rabble.ca I’d wager.
    Am I advocating killing Nazis? Hell yes I am. It was good enough for my Dad’s generation (he was in a destroyer in ’45), it’s good enough for me.

  30. I encourage Cons to stand outside of said event with signes reading “Why do you ignore a real genocide in Darfur by the Arab Janjaweed”. Second sign “Why do you ignore the starvation of millions of black Somalis in the name of Wahahbist’s warriors Al-Shabab”.

  32. That a libary who’s function is to spread knowledge with its tax supported status by the community. Does this, it makes me want to vomit.
    How far have we fallen. Now even our books are at the mercy of bigoted marxist morons.

  33. There is either public free speech, or there isn’t. Whether I agree with it or not is irrelevant.
    I’m dismayed by the number of people calling for censorship by government. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
    Yes this event is repugnant. So what?

  34. It is very sad that this should happen to the VPL, which is (was) one of the best public library systems anywhere,
    and which was one of Vancouver’s prides.
    Re John Chittick: the role of libraries has changed, but has not disappeared. They now tend to be valuable as negotiators for digital access.
    This function might have fallen to other groups but in fact is a major function of a modern library.
    Again, the more expensive electronic materials will only be accessible from within the library, to protect the content providers’ intellectual property.
    Libraries are still important as archives for expensive monographs of specialised interest, and old and rare books. This is in accord with their traditional function.
    On the other hand, it is stupid that a public library should provide multiple copies of the latest Harlequin romance, or blood and guts thriller,
    which are probably available on Kindle or whatever for the price of the gas to get to and from the nearest branch library.
    I certainly agree that VPL, like the Toronto public library system, should “prune” its branches.
    Nonetheless I can never forget my thrill on discovering in the Point Grey branch of the VPL, Kozaczuk and Rejewski’s book on how they broke the Enigma cypher
    (no, kiddies, it wasn’t Alan Turing who first broke it, great as his contributions to decypherment were);
    nor my excitement when my wife came home from the Penn State Library with Quibell and Firth’s publication
    of the Step Pyramid. Truly there is still something which a conventional library can give us.

  35. not Hedy “the crosses are burning in British Columbia” Fry?
    I am shocked! that she would sanction this activity /sarc

  36. djb, it’s unfortunate you’re not bright enough to distinguish between “government censorship” and “government having the brains and decency not to permit publicly funded facilities being used for hate groups to gather and disseminate hatred.”
    But most of us here apparently are. You’re welcome to your lonely corner of SDA.

  39. Re: “publicly funded facilities being used for hate groups ” Unfortunately, it is not clear what group is actually sponsoring this, though their topic is clearly objectionable. Shutting them down would be pretty blatant censorship. In BC, they are all too often ready to shut down voices on the right. Censoring this group could easily backfire. I think a better strategy is to demonstrate outside the library, or even attend the event and argue with their propaganda.

  40. Hedy Fry – “crosses are burning on the lawns of Prince George as we speak”
    {………so therefore we need to insure that women will be suppressed and have their genitalia mutilated. We will have more honour killings, and on day “enshalla” full Sharia law, where gays are hung by their necks in city sports arenas and women who are gang raped publicly humiliated and stoned to death.
    To hell with those pimple faced, cross burning, white middle class brats in Prince George! We spit on their very existence.}

  41. Well LindaL, you seem to be a reasonable person. I am going to contact VPL and ask for facilities for gathering an anti-Islam group to discuss matters such as “Why Islam as a philosophy needs to be eradicated from the face of the earth in our lifetime, by force if necessary”.
    Anyone wanna join me? I think it would be preferable to my instinctive reaction, which would be to attend the event and physically assault as many of the Nazis as possible before the police arrive. Being a faux tough guy and all.

  43. Just wrote Gregor Robertson a second email, since he hasn’t deigned to respond after almost 24 hours. Failure to respond by lunchtime will result in a phone call. Time’s a-wastin’ – the Hitlerjugend rally is this Sunday. Pleas do write teh man if you really care, he’s a human being and a political animal, and (theoretically) sensitive to public opinion.

  44. @No Guff – YES!!! Well done. Let’s all try to walk the walk as well as talk the talk!

  47. Michael H Anderson at September 13, 2011 11:25 PM:
    There is either government censorship or there is not. You are in favour of government censorship. I find that point of view repugnant.
    The proper response to hate speech begins in argument and ends , in many case, with ridicule.
    But I don’t want ANY level of government dictating what can and cannot be said by citizens.

  48. Well djb, I don’t give a good goddamn what you find repugnant. Do you want child pornography legitimized? Do you find it offensive that it is not merely censored but prosecuted by the irresistible power of the state? Sorry to hear that, but I for one am glad of it.
    You know what I find repugnant? Self-proclaimed conservatives who are in fact closet anarchists or at the very least libertarians who defend total license in human behavior. We have laws, they are there for a purpose. Your cowardice in the face of evil, which breeds contempt for the rule of law and rationality is what I find repugnant.
    Just incidentally, here is a quote from Sandra Singh’s resume:
    “While at VPL, Sandra served as the National Director of the federal government-funded national demonstration project Working Together, which sought to develop new ways of working with people who expereince social exclusion or marginalization.”
    Leaving aside the typo, is this a nice way of saying “junkies and other species of scumbag” do you suppose?

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