WOW!
Why can't Bohner serve up read meat like that? Every GOP member should study that tape and get on page on how to handle a leftist MSM.
Where is Oblmeya's plan? And where is his budget?
Tingles just got tazered!
The fact that this guy has enough influence to even appear on mainstream television is highly depressing. Every thought that he expresses is extremest and irrational.
Notice, Matthews used the word WE in referencing the Obama side of the debate (sic).
Good for Joe, but I'm afraid I just don't agree with his "historic" nonsense. A balanced budget amendment? Gimme me a break. Does anyone -- anyone -- think this will stick?
Nope, that's just a political feint; more horse-trading.
What would be historic is a refusal to raise the debt limit, which in my view, is the only serious solution, which if I'm not mistaken, Sarah and Michele support.
No more new debt, live within current revenue, priortize.
me no dhimmi - but this current situation isn't about the American economy; Obama isn't interested in that.
He needs the debt limit raised because he needs money to buy his next election. And he needs taxes raised to do that as well. Watch him; he can't run on his three years in office; his policies have been disastrous. So, he's going to run..as he did in 2008...on emotion.
This time, he's going to bribe his electoral base, which are the bloated unionized civil service..and the exponentially increased 50% who are dependent on US govt 'aid'...via food stamps/cards, social security, and all the other govt handouts...many of which are scammed by these people. Obama is going to 'give' them more of this taxpayer money..to vote for him. Watch him.
That's why he needs the money. He has no interest in the American economy. Remember his stimulus? It wasn't about developing production infrastructures; it went to the unionized public service workers. And he laughed when he was 'found out'..laughed that there were no 'shovel-ready projects'. He'd got what he wanted: his fat cat public service had their jobs.
And, as well as bribing his electoral base, the dependents, Obama is going to viciously attack the GOP, the Tea Party, small businesses...Obama will incite class divisions in the US the like of which they've never had. And racism. And ethnic hatreds.
More smoke and mirrors. I'm going to believe the GOP is serious about cutting spending when they CUT SOMETHING.
Like, how much money could be saved by shutting down the Department of Education SWAT team? Yes, the DOE has a swat team. Should they? No. So maybe that could be CUT, and maybe the whole f-ing DOE could get CUT right behind it, and then we'll know they ain't just whistling Dixie.
As it is, they are fiddling while Rome burns and there's going to be -trouble-.
Me No Dhimmi: "Good for Joe, but I'm afraid I just don't agree with his "historic" nonsense. A balanced budget amendment? Gimme me a break. Does anyone -- anyone -- think this will stick?"
Some people do think it will stick, but they're wrong. It's a stupid idea. It has as much chance of forcing a balanced budget as prohibition did of preventing everyone from drinking.
Besides, if such an amendment was taken seriously, it would make tax increases much more likely, no matter which party the President belonged to, or which party controlled Congress.
Sorry to say folks, but Mathews is right. Joe had NO specifics! Just like Obama.
I've not seen the bill, just heard of it, and what I saw in this interview. I think it's fair to say, that if there were specifics, Joe'd have come clean.
I recall watching Mathews after the 2010 election, and he's asked M.Bachman the exact same questions that she couldn't answer either: will you raise the debt ceiling? what specifically will you cut?
Here's the crux; the Phantom is right! "show me the money!".
The problem is, cuts are real, and they effect real people. By coming clean, you alienate those that will actuaqlly feel the cuts; therefore, "mums" the word.
IMO, out of a percieved political necessity, the GOP are cowards. Period! They know damn well what they'd cut, but don't have the nadz to admit it. Worse, is their distrust and disdain for the folks and their ability to make the correct decision. In this case, they're nothing but Democrats.
That horse left the barn a long time ago with the egregious amount of borrowing going on. TARP, stimulus package and raising the debt ceiling are simply tax increases by another name.
Chris "Tingles" Mathews is an obnoxious boor, not a journalist. I don't know why any non-lefty person would allow himself/herself to be interviewed for that "news program". If you're not in slavish agreement with his and his network's leftist dogma, that's the kind of rude treatment that is Mathews' SOP.
Beautiful, why would anybody NOT slap back at Chris Mathews this way? I look forward to the day all partisan fake "news" guys like Chris Tingler, get it right back in the face with both barrels, every time they try to do a pretend interview.
Reading Indiana Homez comments, thanks for the vote of confidence dude.
It was nice to see Mathews get a smack, he's a propagandist and a rude SOB. But really, Mathews isn't wrong. $150 billion from what? By when? Five years from now?
Show me a reduction in the actual size and power of government or shut the hell up and stop pretending you're not a RINO.
A direct plan will immediately be attacked as "oh, you can't cut THAT!" whereas an ammendment (with the noted caveats) will likely lead to the department heads being told something like "your budget is going down 20% over the next 3 years. Prioritize what you do and give us your list of what you think your cuts will be. If you can't shave 20% off of what you do, we accept your resignation."
A president or Congressman shouldn't micro-manage projects. They shouldn't have to. And any department that cannot determine their core reason for existence and explain what it is (to the satisfaction of the congress) should probably be eliminated. Just MHO.
Like, how much money could be saved by shutting down the Department of Education SWAT team? Yes, the DOE has a swat team. Should they? No. So maybe that could be CUT, and maybe the whole f-ing DOE could get CUT right behind it, and then we'll know they ain't just whistling Dixie.
Posted by: The Phantom at July 19, 2011 11:23 PM
The entire DOE should be abolished. Billions could be saved annually by doing so. Have educational results improved since the DOE's inception in the 1970s? I strongly suspect not.
Why would Republicans do the job that Pres.Obama is supposed to do? Can't you see? If GOP lays out a plan for cuts, Obama would point the finger at them for being cruel, heartless Tea Partiers. He's been playing that card right along. He's laying a trap that I hope GOP won't fall into - as some of our SDA contributors appear to have done. The onus is on the President of the United States to address the economuic crises - he owns it and is trying to BS everyone that it's the Tea Partiers' fault (G.W. Bush is a tad too far back in the rear view mirror or he'd be the baddie still).
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Joe was Awesome!!
WOW!
Why can't Bohner serve up read meat like that? Every GOP member should study that tape and get on page on how to handle a leftist MSM.
Where is Oblmeya's plan? And where is his budget?
Tingles just got tazered!
I liked Joe Walsh's energy . Chris Matthews I Dispise. If a Jack ass could speak, that would be its name.
Chris was sounding a little desperate.
The fact that this guy has enough influence to even appear on mainstream television is highly depressing. Every thought that he expresses is extremest and irrational.
Notice, Matthews used the word WE in referencing the Obama side of the debate (sic).
Good for Joe, but I'm afraid I just don't agree with his "historic" nonsense. A balanced budget amendment? Gimme me a break. Does anyone -- anyone -- think this will stick?
Nope, that's just a political feint; more horse-trading.
What would be historic is a refusal to raise the debt limit, which in my view, is the only serious solution, which if I'm not mistaken, Sarah and Michele support.
No more new debt, live within current revenue, priortize.
the leg tingler must have taken a page out of Lizzard May's book!!
Joe Walsh came close to sending a thrill up my leg.
me no dhimmi - but this current situation isn't about the American economy; Obama isn't interested in that.
He needs the debt limit raised because he needs money to buy his next election. And he needs taxes raised to do that as well. Watch him; he can't run on his three years in office; his policies have been disastrous. So, he's going to run..as he did in 2008...on emotion.
This time, he's going to bribe his electoral base, which are the bloated unionized civil service..and the exponentially increased 50% who are dependent on US govt 'aid'...via food stamps/cards, social security, and all the other govt handouts...many of which are scammed by these people. Obama is going to 'give' them more of this taxpayer money..to vote for him. Watch him.
That's why he needs the money. He has no interest in the American economy. Remember his stimulus? It wasn't about developing production infrastructures; it went to the unionized public service workers. And he laughed when he was 'found out'..laughed that there were no 'shovel-ready projects'. He'd got what he wanted: his fat cat public service had their jobs.
And, as well as bribing his electoral base, the dependents, Obama is going to viciously attack the GOP, the Tea Party, small businesses...Obama will incite class divisions in the US the like of which they've never had. And racism. And ethnic hatreds.
He's pathological.
That was amazing. What a backbone, unafraid to play the hard game with Chris Matthews. Epic.
More smoke and mirrors. I'm going to believe the GOP is serious about cutting spending when they CUT SOMETHING.
Like, how much money could be saved by shutting down the Department of Education SWAT team? Yes, the DOE has a swat team. Should they? No. So maybe that could be CUT, and maybe the whole f-ing DOE could get CUT right behind it, and then we'll know they ain't just whistling Dixie.
As it is, they are fiddling while Rome burns and there's going to be -trouble-.
Me No Dhimmi: "Good for Joe, but I'm afraid I just don't agree with his "historic" nonsense. A balanced budget amendment? Gimme me a break. Does anyone -- anyone -- think this will stick?"
Some people do think it will stick, but they're wrong. It's a stupid idea. It has as much chance of forcing a balanced budget as prohibition did of preventing everyone from drinking.
Besides, if such an amendment was taken seriously, it would make tax increases much more likely, no matter which party the President belonged to, or which party controlled Congress.
Sorry to say folks, but Mathews is right. Joe had NO specifics! Just like Obama.
I've not seen the bill, just heard of it, and what I saw in this interview. I think it's fair to say, that if there were specifics, Joe'd have come clean.
I recall watching Mathews after the 2010 election, and he's asked M.Bachman the exact same questions that she couldn't answer either: will you raise the debt ceiling? what specifically will you cut?
Here's the crux; the Phantom is right! "show me the money!".
The problem is, cuts are real, and they effect real people. By coming clean, you alienate those that will actuaqlly feel the cuts; therefore, "mums" the word.
IMO, out of a percieved political necessity, the GOP are cowards. Period! They know damn well what they'd cut, but don't have the nadz to admit it. Worse, is their distrust and disdain for the folks and their ability to make the correct decision. In this case, they're nothing but Democrats.
Now that right there was a thing of beauty! I just love to see any msnbc'er get their comeuppance!
Chris is probably scratching his head, wondering why his dogpiling tactic didn't work. It's usually a cinch when the panel is stacked 4 to 1.
Joe handled him Splendidly.
"it would make tax increases much more likely"
MJ,
That horse left the barn a long time ago with the egregious amount of borrowing going on. TARP, stimulus package and raising the debt ceiling are simply tax increases by another name.
Chris "Tingles" Mathews is an obnoxious boor, not a journalist. I don't know why any non-lefty person would allow himself/herself to be interviewed for that "news program". If you're not in slavish agreement with his and his network's leftist dogma, that's the kind of rude treatment that is Mathews' SOP.
Beautiful, why would anybody NOT slap back at Chris Mathews this way? I look forward to the day all partisan fake "news" guys like Chris Tingler, get it right back in the face with both barrels, every time they try to do a pretend interview.
This just reinforces my contention that...
There is no honour to be had, in a battle of wits...with an unarmed man.......
Reading Indiana Homez comments, thanks for the vote of confidence dude.
It was nice to see Mathews get a smack, he's a propagandist and a rude SOB. But really, Mathews isn't wrong. $150 billion from what? By when? Five years from now?
Show me a reduction in the actual size and power of government or shut the hell up and stop pretending you're not a RINO.
A direct plan will immediately be attacked as "oh, you can't cut THAT!" whereas an ammendment (with the noted caveats) will likely lead to the department heads being told something like "your budget is going down 20% over the next 3 years. Prioritize what you do and give us your list of what you think your cuts will be. If you can't shave 20% off of what you do, we accept your resignation."
A president or Congressman shouldn't micro-manage projects. They shouldn't have to. And any department that cannot determine their core reason for existence and explain what it is (to the satisfaction of the congress) should probably be eliminated. Just MHO.
Like, how much money could be saved by shutting down the Department of Education SWAT team? Yes, the DOE has a swat team. Should they? No. So maybe that could be CUT, and maybe the whole f-ing DOE could get CUT right behind it, and then we'll know they ain't just whistling Dixie.
Posted by: The Phantom at July 19, 2011 11:23 PM
The entire DOE should be abolished. Billions could be saved annually by doing so. Have educational results improved since the DOE's inception in the 1970s? I strongly suspect not.
Why would Republicans do the job that Pres.Obama is supposed to do? Can't you see? If GOP lays out a plan for cuts, Obama would point the finger at them for being cruel, heartless Tea Partiers. He's been playing that card right along. He's laying a trap that I hope GOP won't fall into - as some of our SDA contributors appear to have done. The onus is on the President of the United States to address the economuic crises - he owns it and is trying to BS everyone that it's the Tea Partiers' fault (G.W. Bush is a tad too far back in the rear view mirror or he'd be the baddie still).
WOW, I think Mr Walsh could and probably should be in the WH, I hope he hangs the usurper on the front lawn when he moves in.
Am I the only one who gets the impression that Matthews is - how you say? - sloshed much of the time?