South Koreans Taking America For Granted

"..you don't know what you got 'til it's gone"

I once got into an argument with another Korean student when I was in University quite a while ago. He had this hatred for Americans that I had never quite experienced, this was in relation to the Korean War. It was very complicated including anger that Korea was split in half, America didn't do enough, and lots of other illogical things.

I thanked him for that, told him many Canadians and Americans died in that conflict, and earlier against Japan, for something that really had nothing to do with them. Maybe he should think on that a little bit.

This kind of strange love hate relationship has a widespread existance in South Korea as I found out later.

America nees a Mt. Pinatubo/Subic Bay circumstance. How much money did the Philippine economy lose?

Screw them, time for the USA to bring home the troops.....I'm at a lost to understand why their still there if their not wanted.

Penis envy.

Next problem you don't understand?

In addition to US military forces....Australia, Belgium, Canada, Colombia, Ethiopia, France, Greece, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, New Zealand, the Philippines, Thailand and Turkey. The Union of South Africa provided air units which fought alongside the air forces of other member nations. Denmark, India, Norway, and Sweden provided medical units. Italy provided a hospital, even though it was not a UN member.

Given the US is pretty broke, I give even odds that a lot of places are gonna miss the USA sticking it's nose into things and generally, just sitting around and giving some locals the hairy eyeball once in a while.

Pull the civilizing forces out of South Korea and let the North Koreans invade - that would keep them all busy - and give them no time to develop nuclear missiles.

The situation is a little more nuanced than that. The younger generations who have never had to suffer annexation, war, political strife or deprivation the way previous generations have tend to be more anti-American. Sure, they don't mind Pizza Hut or groovy American ESL teachers but they have been brain-washed into thinking America and Japan are the enemies. Older generations are more appreciative of both America's presence and money. I think a good deal of Koreans are grateful to the Americans but would rather South Korea go it alone in dealing with the North Koreans. I can understand the latter concept but realistically this is sabre-rattling between the world's two biggest armies, China and the US, not the separated states. Then there is the fear that reunification will be like East/West Germany. Also, North Koreans are often looked down upon because of xenophobia and various war/terrorism connections.

If the US were to leave by the end of the year, South Korea would be without a paddle up a certain creek that shall remain nameless for now. No one would be able to escape even to Japan, let alone North America. Leftist South Koreans know this. Their ingratitude and arrogance may spell the collapse of the Korean Peninsula to the great Chinese octopus. If the Koreans thought the Japanese were bad, wait until they get a load of the Chinese.

Just my thoughts.

pffft.

the hatred by the right wing here at SDA of the 'not dead enough' left is very striking too.

maybe it all boils down to human nature and scant to do with the political spectrum.

A shorthand description of Koreans in past times was "The Irish of Asia" and it was not meant to be a complimentary one. Korea has also suffered misfortunes not completely its own fault.
The Japanese conquest of Korea early in the 20th century and the resulting savage occupation came after lots of empty promises of protection from American missionaries in particular and
Europeans in general. The post WW2 Rhee regime set up by the American government in South Korea had armed forces trained and equipped by the US that were more suitable for
maintaining internal security in a banana republic than defending against the modern massive NK armies Stalin was building and equipping with his most modern heavy weapons in North Korea.
Even with such clear signs, American doctrine still maintained the North lacked the superiority in numbers necessary to potentially wage war and conquer the ill armed, ill trained, South. The
population of South Korea paid a devastating price for these poorly researched assumptions, and so did the soldiers who were later sent there from overseas to help overcome the horrible mess.

There is still a continuing influential left wing "Christian missionary" connection today in the fertile anti-government movements there which is just one more facet of the puzzle.
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The US' half-@$$ed approach in Asia aside, Sgt. Lejaune, South Korea still owes much to the US. Things could be much worse.

As I said before, the true conflict is between the US and China, the two largest armies in the world. The octopus is fed by our trade and the US is diminishing. Had the conflict been strictly between the two Koreas, things would have been resolved ages ago.

Just my thoughts.

Peter, Sgt Lejaune and Osumashi well said.

Much of this hatred toward the United States, by not only some Koreans, but citizens of many other countries, including Canadians, is the result of leftist propaganda handiwork over many decades against what was an example of a country with a capitalistic economic and democratic social system. Both of which the left abhors.

McCarther wasn't allowed to fix the problem so they're stuck in another Rambo situation.
as usual

The Canadian left hates America!

Check out the blogs, and check out Vancouver, Montreal & Toronto online comments – no further proof necessary.

The vile puke that liberal Canada spews at Americans is like arsenic waste to western conservative Canada.

There are now too many Canada's, and too many America’s – It is time to round up like minded friends too become separate communities independent of each other’s dislikes. Logical, no?

You lefties’ on either side of the border can have yours and we will have ours.

Oh why not?

What is your problem separating from conservative NA? Sounds like something akin to “African Americans” not wanting to be relocated to Africa perhaps?

If you want collectivism so bad, there are a multitude of existing counties to immigrate too. China come to mind, yet not on Liberal left Canadian reported commits themselves to move to China full stop rejecting their Canadian citizenship. What’s up with that you dumbf*cks????? It’s what you tell us is in our best interests.................

There is a 5th column of pro north forces that agitate in a realtively free society to expell USA forces from S.Korea. The Chinese support that effort simply because they would rather not have a threat to their flank. The USA presence deters any military invasion by the north. To suggest that could not happen again is more than naive. The north lurches from one disaster after another with the wealth in the south a constant reminder to the people that 'better' exists.

The anti-Americanism that exists around the world acts as a focal point for 'talking heads' who re- quire a target. American self-interest can get backs up but those so called victims have the right to say no. Most the time they cannot ignore the carrot and resent that fact. Bottom line is that the USA has created more wealth for more people than any country in the history of the world.

Never really got along with Koreans...especially that brigade that "helped" us in Viet Nam (more like helped themselves).
Problem is with South Korea it is an open free society where dissenters(agents) are not subject to censor/persecution and have infiltrated the education and media....same old same old...

Yeah, I was in Korea for seven years. It's crazy. The Americans should call their bluff and pull out all their troops. The US troops are nothing but hostages; America has no strategic interest in being in Korea other than to protect Korea.

The 'hatred' of America by Canadians is a lot like our 'hatred' of Celine Dion. It's more 'just something to do', and if we ever came face to face, we're friendly with a, "Nice to have met you. How're ya doing? Eh?" Right now, with the economic crisis, it gives the more vocal of us something to preach on. A lot of Americans are whining and complaining about Obama's policies killing businesses and their freedom, and how it'll mean the failure of all. From where we stand, things would change more towards the way we Canadians have done things. Last I checked, we were doing just fine...

In addition to withdrawing our troops from South Korea, perhaps we should also stop buying the things they make. I am sure they really don't want to sell stuff to us, either.

No. I would rather buy things from South Korea than China. The real octopus is China.

Not only should the USA remove its forces from places like South Korea and Europe, it should re-inter all its fallen back on American home soil where they belong, so that they can be a reminder not to waste a single drop of blood again on foreign ingrates.

My uncle is a Korea Vet. The S. Korean gov and the Korean community in Canada treat him like a god and never fail to express their gratitude every year. A couple years ago they flew over a group of vets, all expenses paid, and feted them like kings. The next year their grandchildren were given the same treatment, all expenses paid by the S. Korean gov. The Korean community in Canada have erected memorial gardens in most major cities and attend memorial services every year. Are there leftist loons in Korea? Apparently. But no European gov treats Canadian vets with anything near the gratitude of the Koreans. I'd have no trouble with our immigration system if all our immigrants were Korean. Those in my community are all hardworking Christians. What's not to like?