Ethical Oil

Video linky no worky.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ex-tory-message-maven-tailors-his-spin-to-oil-sands/article2112313/

I'm not surprised by the derogatory tone of the comments, but I have to say there is a real "hate on" for us Albertan's.

Curious if anyone is interested in battling our own national bigotry problems, or do we just keep on with what the left says is fair game?

No video Syncro, just flip through the pages.

Thanks...

Knacker, I hope the G&M comments are views not shared by many Canadians. I used to visit and comment at G&M regularly but not anymore (unless it's a link from here).

If Torontonians don't like Alberta there us a simple solution that I would wholeheartedly welcome. They could kick us out of Canada. Then they could look around elsewhere for transfer payments to finance their welfare state. I'm sure we could do without them, but could they do without us?

Love it, but oil is fungible.

http://s993.photobucket.com/albums/af52/nataliasc/?action=view¤t=MrParksWebsite-TheSimpsonsZincFilm.mp4

Zinc, oil and the people who don't care to learn.

If the hateful dribble in the Globe and Mail comments was truly representative of Central Canadian attitudes towards the West, I would be foursquare behind a western independence movement. However, I don't believe that Globe and Mail commentary bigots are representative of anyone but themselves.

Coulda done without the Chauvez bit...

There's not that many comments - probably put there by a few people paid by the green movement.

I refuse to comment on sites that require my registration, as I imagine many others wouldn't as well. It just sorta bugs me that every newspaper and television station want my email address and personal information just so I can comment on a story they wrote.

I suspect the comments you see would be much more balanced if they could be written by anyone. Or if most people in this Country even read the news.

Trust me when I say, since a lot of east coasters are "out west" either commuting to Alberta or moving their families there, the oilsands have our support.

Maybe it isn't the west that should leave, maybe it's Toronto.

syncrodox, you like Chavez? You know he goes around appropriating land and companies "for the people", don't you? And he once led a failed coup? And his elections are as crooked as mountain path? You like him? You can have him.

Nice to see they're finally getting off their arses and giving the green parasites a bit of repellent.

The G & M (and most of its readers) is as insular as any of the rags dans la belle province. Never figured it out that there is really anything else beyond their respective boundaries or considered that the occupants of the ROC might have opinions that mattered - very much like the Liberal party....and just as relevant.

A year ago my Toronto born and raised nephew came to Edmonton and we all went out for supper. It wasn't a fair fight because my children are all very politically astute and so when my nephew started with the Toronto bigotry he got it back with both barrels. He found out that the 'religious based schools' that tipped the last Ontario election have been here in Alberta for decades. He was brought up short that we Albertans were more socially liberal than Toronto. We just don't brag about it. Oh well he went home feeling like the mouth breathing knuckle dragger that when he had left Toronto he thought we were.

It is fairly evident that most of the anti-oilsands posters at the G&M didn't read the article. Just knee-jerks, no thought involved.

Zog (If the hateful dribble in the Globe and Mail comments was truly representative of Central Canadian... ...However, I don't believe that Globe and Mail commentary bigots are representative of anyone but themselves.)

I post at G&M occasionally. It's my way of lighting that single candle. But I'm usually inundated in a tsunami of thumbs down, even when I say something neutral and innocuous. I may be paranoid, but I think there are G&M commentors who make it their business to thumbs down certain writers automatically, without even reading what they wrote.

In support of those who say that G&M commentors do not represent the views of most Canadians, during the last election, if you had based your prediction of the outcome on the Harper-bashing comments and the huge numbers of thumbs up they gleaned, you would have bet that the Conservatives would have lost dismally. I think many reasonable people don't bother commenting--they are busy with other things.

As far as the ad campaign, it didn't impress me all that much. Trying too hard maybe? The points are valid but I find the illustrations crude. A bit like raining polar bears.

Unethical oil as a theme of attack is simply a reflection of the threat that Alberta poses not just to eastern Canada but also world oil interests, particularly in the USA. Canadian oil production of 4 to 5 million bpd seriously changes the dynamics of Canada and the world. It vaults Canada into the #2 exporter nation in the world! We are talking $500 million per day in export sales +/-.

The clowns in Ontario can see the writing on the wall, or should by now. Ontario has ruled Canada for 150+ years by playing Quebec against the west. The country subsidized the establishment of an industrial base in Ontario (especially auto) to the tune of trillions of $s. This investment is now at risk along with the power that comes with it. That is why Trudeau and recently Dion wanted a cut of that cash flow.

World governments and industry also conspire against this Canadian oil evolution because it threatens existing investments and world power balances. ME(Opec) and Russian producers are resisting because it downgrades their influence. Some USA oil interests resist because it threatens their investments. USA political forces resist because it will vault Canada into a serious rival in the Americas. It will provide Canada the wealth and influence to secure its' northern borders. Neither the USA or Russia are happy about that.

I have thought for some time that the enviromental movement has been used by these interests to stop or slow down this Canadian oil development. The efforts to gain control by non-western interests will continue.

I think Ezra truly understands it, believes it, is not suffering internal conflicts between ethical oil and AGW and therefore says it way better!

Talk about "ethical oil"!!!!

"He annointeth my head with oil" is a promise of the 23rd psalm is it not?

Geez if that is the case, this plane of conciousness will never run out of oil, eh?

Great visual ads.

ct's thoughts make a lo of sense.

I do not know the right nomenclature for the oil sands consortium, but they also have had an advertising campaign for some time that discusses their efforts to improve the oil extraction process and their reclamation efforts.

Ethical oil will not become an issue until Israel starts drilling.
If that happens,you won't be able to open a newspaper or turn on a newscast without hearing some fool calling a boycott.

Related to my above post; Is there something like spellcheck that detects grammar mistakes?
I would find useful.

Was starting to feel great about the picture ads until the "pride" slide showed up. Definitely playing to the Vancouver / Toronto / Montreal crowd there.

Now don't get all jumpy, not that I want to see ANYONE persecuted for their beliefs, just not getting special privileges, attention, funding, laws,...

it's funny...but not funny 'ha-ha'....you'd think the moonbats would be lining up to support something that gives people a chance to work for the money they say they need to move from impoverished circumstances and foster women's rights....you'd think it, but then you wouldn't be allowed to be a liebral..they don't even try to think...instead they want it stopped and stand behind people that beat women with sticks for wearing nail polish or daring to drive a car

Juxtaposing the hanging of homosexuals to the tolerance here is completely valid, says this homosexual.

Something that could appeal to the liberal crowd could very well be depleted oil sand. Take the oil from the sand, and rather than completely following current processes of allowing the sand to settle in tailing ponds, treating it further and then putting the soil back on top so that the pond can be turned into a conservation site for Wood Bison, why not melt some of the sand down to turn into glass... things. Glass is used in everything from jewelery to drink containers to test tubes. It would allow us to fully utilize every part of the oil sand.
I've been to the Fort a number of times to visit my best friend who decided to slap on a set of the golden handcuffs two years ago, and I've seen the processing that is done, I've seen the river valley, and I've seen the rivers themselves. Trust me, if the city and the plants and the mines were not there, the rivers would still be brown because the oil is quite literally at the surface. I saw the result of a rain, it caused a little landslide in the river valley and I could smell the vein of oil sand that was naturally spilling into the river and washing downstream. There's a reason why no lawsuits about contaminated water have ever resulted in payouts, because someone just needs to go look upstream and see the natural seepage that happens, mining or no. And aside from lawsuits from whiners hoping to get a little money and creepy rig-pigs hitting on anything in a skirt, there's no conflict in Fort McMurray. Fort McMurray produces very ethical oil, the companies are simply forced to fight negative branding from dicks that aren't brave enough to take on countries that actually do destroy their landscape and their citizen's lives trying to make a buck.

@albertaclipper

That's an interesting scenario. Alberta being kicked out of Canada would be the best thing that could happen to Alberta. We wouldn't be stuck financing anti-west ingrates, and we could chart our own destiny. For that we don't need Canada.

Economic power without political power is worthless.

Irene

Great idea but sand isn't soil.

Good campaign but needs allot of work.

amazing how the tune changes when the shoe is on the other foot

We wouldn't be stuck financing anti-west ingrates, and we could chart our own destiny. For that we don't need Canada.

Are we allowed to use old cliché's here?

"but I have to say there is a real "hate on" for us Albertan's."
Yes, in the Liberal lexicon,you've replaced the "hated Yankees".

Good ad campaign,makes some valid points. Especially liked the comparison between Natives.

Strange how the liberals/Liberals always have to have a target to hate,they just can't seem to rationally criticize anything,but have to demonize it.

There seems no middle ground with these people,no grounds for a rational discussion,it's all ad hominem attacks and "end of the world save the planet" driven vitriol.

Juxtaposing the hanging of homosexuals to the tolerance here is completely valid, says this heterosexual.

To drive the point home further, the campaign message could be shifted from criticism of the oil sources, to the users.

Who are the regular users of Ethical OIl (western Canadians) versus who are the regular users of Conflict Oil (eastern Canadians).

How long must we Albertans bear the slings and arrows and the horsewhip stings of insults from the likes of Ontario Liberal premiers and his ministers; from the Globe and Mail and by Canada's largest-circulation newspaper of them all, the uber-left Toronto Star with its toxic columnist Heather Mallick? How long before we say enough already? Once again I urge SDA bloggers to press for the formation of a Prairie Bloc Party whose members would stand up for Alberta; stand up for our oil industry; stand up for our beleaguered oil sands. Certainly, Calgary's own Tory PM is not. He's too enraptured with buying votes in Ontario and Quebec with Alberta's oil resources money. Come on, folks such as Link Byfield, organize a federal party that will vigorously launch counter attacks to the Ontario-Quebec smear campaign. Somebody . . . anybody . . . Please!

To add to my post at 10:51, I saw one of the adds on Sun News later this morning and the name is CAPP, Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers.

dumb-ass that posted @ 12:42 please use these "" next time.

or go back to f******** school and learn how to write. dumb ****

I know your all thinking the same, your just being polite today.

Posted by: Blanks at July 29, 2011 6:46 PM

At the risk of sounding impolite, I think you probably meant to use the word 'you're,' as in 'you are.'

;o)

thnx but what I really meant was I shouldn't have skipped all those grade 6 English grammer classes.
true story, subtitled: I'm not normal
either

Blanks, don't be too hard on yourself. We all have days were we do not know whether we are coming or going.

I think CAPP also has full page ads in McLean's and the National Post.

Blanks.what's this 'grammer' that you speak of?

:-)

Since we are on a grammar roll, were should be where on my last comment.

To start, we're not mining the sands, we're cleaning up the worlds biggest spill. Second, on the comments page of the G&M, someone was talking about green gas. Cheap and polution free, unfortunatly it's a major component of explosives, mixed with another chemical(which i'm not saying) it produces PHOSGINE a gas which will melt your lungs, WW1 soldiers knew about this. If it is burned it releases oxides of nitrogen which is a component of ACID RAIN. If it stays at ground level, the reaction of utlraviolet rays cause to become OZONE. Up a couple of hundred miles it provides protection from UV rays, at ground level, it causes smog and it also is hard on the lungs. A major concern of those with weak lungs,young, old, ashma, transplant patients. I tried to leave this at G&M, but wasn't accepted.

I was wondering what the commenter's so-called "green gas" was, as I had never heard of it. No doubt the commenter is McGuinty supporter.

In any case, it great that some people and groups are fighting back against the misinformation.

Oatmeal Savage is doing a great job in the comments, but it's a Sisyphian (is that a word?) task. No matter how many times the rock of knowledge is rolled in front of some people, they will run away from it faster than it can roll away.