Nobody Saw This Coming

Oh noes!! The Arab Spring is turning into the Islamofascist Summer?!

Did anyone tell Brigette Du Pap (sic)?

Any bets on how it will be the same result elsewhere, especially places where the West is aiding the rebels without knowing whom they are aiding?

Well dah, I read an article the other day that stated it's the US funding the rebels in Syria and guess who those rebels are? The Muslim Brotherhood of course, no wonder the Burka babes in Canada were out cheering for the rebels.

If it was up to the people who think they are our betters we wouldn't say.

The Arab Spring is possibly the best thing to happen to the Muslim Brotherhood. With Mubarak out of the way, no clear viable option for a new leader and a huge chunk of the population totally mad, how could the Brotherhood fail?

Kate's thread caption says it all.

Taliban Jack and company will be overjoyed.

The MB is behind most of the unrest in the ME. Here as well only subversively.

Hahahahahhahahaha

The MB is thankfully having its own problems. Most of their youth wing broke off to form a secularist party.

I doubt those who spewed the anti-Mubarak rhetoric (way back when)will even remember their POVs anymore. After all, "for liberals, history begins anew everyday".

Anyways, we can take solace in the knowledge that it's a democratically elected Jihad, and not feel sympathy when down the road we must bomb these so called "innocent" people.

I for one think we will be all better-off once the grass is cut and the snakes show. Must we really continue to pretend these Arab folks(ie Pakistani’s and Egyptians) are our friends regardless of the so called friendly governments? Is it better not to keep kicking this can(clash of civilizations) down the road?

Personally, I'd prefer the Chinese/Russian method, where you employ the crazies to fight your enemies (us), and then slit their throats(the crazies) once their usefulness has expired. I doubt the Chinese will allow the Crazies to shut-down entire city blocks for prayer services.

ET?

Kate, you seem to be making light of the problems the Egyptian pro-democracy camp is facing. That seems awfully small of you.

In reality those in Egypt that are for freedom are few. After all it's an Arab country for the most part. Have anybody, anywhere, heard of an Arab state to be democratic?

Are there camels that read the news?

Are there desert rats that eat figs?

@ Jordan, the events in Egypt seem to be following the typical revolutionary pattern. The moderates make a revolution, hoping to create a democracy and then the radicals take charge. France, Russia, many more examples in history.

Jordan Charbonneau

Where all making light of it because they never had a chance from day one, yet Liberals are still in the unicorn birthing stage. Believing 9 impossible things before morning.
This rebellion happend in many Countries at the same time. They all have one element in common. The Muslim Brotherhood. Which has been working since 49 to bring down the west, & what they call peverted Islam.
Look at Turkey or other places. There you will find Hezballah or the MB. Both of who have been in alliance for years. Shae the same orginizations with terrorist offshoots.
JMO

Dmorris >

I believe ET has made it crystal clear that she’s “sticking to her guns on this one”. So there’s probably no point in coming in and defending the Muslim Brotherhood over and over again.

"The MB is thankfully having its own problems. Most of their youth wing broke off to form a secularist party."
Secularist, are you joking?. Their "secularist party " is equivalent to western "religious party."
And yes, MB is having problems, their problems are:: "Will we get 40% seats in the parliament or only 25%"

Anyone who watches Glen Beck saw this coming...Kate, have you been watching Glen Beck?

The three key powers in the ME are Iran, Turkey and Egypt. Iran is Persian and Turkey seemed out of reach for radical Islam until the past 8 years. Egypt has always been the target for the Muslim Brotherhood. They simply changed tactics to an evolutionary approach rather than armed violence.

Control of Egypt means an end of the peace treaty with Israel and re-establishes the possibility of a two front war. Israel would have a serious military problem with this development. The trouble in Syria probably has a Muslim Brotherhood base of Sunnis. The ruling Alawites(?) actually have Christian allies within the country but the Sunni's represent about 70% of the population.

the Dutch did....

via http://www.ihatethemedia.com/

The Netherlands to Abandon Multiculturalism

by Soeren Kern
June 23, 2011 at 5:00 am

http://www.hudson-ny.org/2219/netherlands-abandons-multiculturalism
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The Dutch government says it will abandon the long-standing model of multiculturalism that has encouraged Muslim immigrants to create a parallel society within the Netherlands.

A new integration bill (covering letter and 15-page action plan), which Dutch Interior Minister Piet Hein Donner presented to parliament on June 16, reads: "The government shares the social dissatisfaction over the multicultural society model and plans to shift priority to the values of the Dutch people. In the new integration system, the values of the Dutch society play a central role. With this change, the government steps away from the model of a multicultural society."

The letter continues: "A more obligatory integration is justified because the government also demands that from its own citizens. It is necessary because otherwise the society gradually grows apart and eventually no one feels at home anymore in the Netherlands. The integration will not be tailored to different groups."

The new integration policy will place more demands on immigrants. For example, immigrants will be required to learn the Dutch language, and the government will take a tougher approach to immigrants to ignore Dutch values or disobey Dutch law.

The government will also stop offering special subsidies for Muslim immigrants because, according to Donner, "it is not the government's job to integrate immigrants." The government will introduce new legislation that outlaws forced marriages and will also impose tougher measures against Muslim immigrants who lower their chances of employment by the way they dress. More specifically, the government will impose a ban on face-covering Islamic burqas as of January 1, 2013.

If necessary, the government will introduce extra measures to allow the removal of residence permits from immigrants who fail their integration course.

The measures are being imposed by the new center-right government of Conservatives (VVD) and Christian Democrats (CDA), with parliamentary support from the anti-Islam Freedom Party (PVV), whose leader, Geert Wilders, is currently on trial in Amsterdam for "inciting hatred" against Muslims.

As expected, Muslim organizations in Holland have been quick to criticize the proposals. The Moroccan-Dutch organization Samenwerkingsverband van Marokkaanse Nederlanders, which advises the government on integration matters, argues that Muslim immigrants need extra support to find a job. The umbrella Muslim group Contactorgaan Moslims en Overheid says that although it agrees that immigrants should be better integrated into Dutch society, it is opposed to a ban on burqas.

But polls show that a majority of Dutch voters support the government's skepticism about multiculturalism. According to a Maurice de Hond poll published by the center-right newspaper Trouw on June 19, 74 percent of Dutch voters say immigrants should conform to Dutch values. Moreover, 83 percent of those polled support a ban on burqas in public spaces.

The proper integration of the more than one million Muslims now living in Holland has been a major political issue ever since 2002, when Dutch politician Pim Fortuyn was assassinated for his views on Muslim immigration, and since 2004, when Dutch filmmaker Theo van Gogh was stabbed to death for producing a movie that criticized Islam.

Muslim immigration to the Netherlands can be traced back to the 1960s and 1970s, when a blue collar labor shortage prompted the Dutch government to conclude recruitment agreements with countries like Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia and Turkey. In the 1980s and 1990s, Muslims also arrived in the Netherlands as asylum seekers and refugees, mainly from Afghanistan, Bosnia, Iran, Iraq, Pakistan and Somalia.

There are now an estimated 1.2 million Muslims in the Netherlands, which is equivalent to about 6 percent of the country's overall population. Moroccans and Turks comprise nearly two-thirds of all Muslims in the Netherlands. Most Muslims live in the four major cities of the country: Amsterdam, Rotterdam, The Hague and Utrecht.

As their numbers grow, Muslim immigrants have become increasingly more assertive in carving out a role for Islam within Dutch society. For example, a documentary aired by the television program Netwerk in June 2009 reported that Dutch law was being systematically undermined by the growth of Sharia justice in the Netherlands.

In December 2004, the Dutch Ministry of the Interior published a 60-page report titled From Dawa to Jihad. Prepared by the Dutch intelligence agency AIVD, the report says that the Netherlands is home to up to 50,000 radical Muslims whose key ideological aim is to target the Western way of life and to confront Western political, economic, and cultural domination.

The report concludes that Dutch society is poorly equipped to resist the threat of radical Islam because of "a culture of permissiveness" that has become synonymous with "closing one's eyes" to multiple transgressions of the law.

As for Interior Minister Donner, he has undergone a late-in-life conversion on the issue of Muslim immigration. In September 2006, while serving as justice minister, Donner provoked an outcry after saying that he welcomed the introduction of Islamic Sharia law in the Netherlands if the majority wants it. He also said Holland should give Muslims more freedoms to behave according to their traditions.

After applauding Queen Beatrix for respecting Islam by not insisting that a Muslim leader shake hands with her during a visit to the Mobarak Mosque in The Hague, Donner said: "A tone that I do not like has crept into the political debate on integration. A tone of: 'Thou shalt assimilate. Thou shalt adopt our values in public. Be reasonable, do it our way.' That is not my approach."

Fast forward to 2011 and Donner now says his government "will distance itself from the relativism contained in the model of a multicultural society." Although society changes, he says, it must not be "interchangeable with any other form of society."

We need the same damn thing here in Canada before it is to late and we gotta change the name to Canuckistan for real.