A Los Angeles friend of mine, who loves Vancouver more than a lot, kindly took the time to put together this powerful video that syncs up the images with the lyrics very well:
A Los Angeles friend of mine, who loves Vancouver more than a lot, kindly took the time to put together this powerful video that syncs up the images with the lyrics very well:
I can’t help but think that the couple in the street get to the root of it. This is about the intoxication of anarchy. There is a small but dedicated group that are addicted to it. I am sure emotions were high among fans, but seriously, I think that there were those planning to provoke a riot no matter the outcome.
It just goes to show you that the riots you see at conferences across the globe are not about anything but the riots themselves. Not about economics or goalie play, which seem to be on the same level, but are like raves, where people will show up to participate. There is a subculture here that needs to be better understood.
The thin blue line, Robert. That was exactly my thought as I watched the clips coming out of Vancouver. We have seen similar incidents in several U.S. cities, and it appears to be organized. Thank you for your prompt coverage, as it beat the cable news channels by over 12 hours.
Watching the participants, you get the feeling this was just another video game where you can role-play as you wish and still win the game. No consequences inside or outside the sandbox.
I’m not interested in watching any feel-good videos/slideshows of people cleaning up the mess either. That’s just another variation on the high that the anarchists get. Show off your good works for all to see just to make you feel better. It’s all pornography. One side is more encouraged to make a mess now so the other side can get their high from cleaning it up.
This might turn out to be a good thing, if this is what it takes to get the good people out to clean up, Vancouveritea might start scrutinizing their polititians a little closer. Voting in idiots like Svend and Hedy, and all the limp wristed mayors you people have voted for has encouraged this aberrant behaviour, “cars burning on the lawns of Van. as I speak” Hedy is always blaming someone else, well I blame policies encouraged by the likes of the dolts Hedy and Svend the ring thief. Good work Robert, Vancouver is beautiful in the summer, lived/worked there in the winter, not as beautiful, but still a nice place that does’nt need the Brock Antons.
The people that started and continued this madness are probably the same anti-establishment anarchists that were at the G20 conference in Toronto. They weren’t hockey fans.
The police can’t win this as if they were pro-active they would have been beat up by the media for police brutality.
It reminded me of a young grandchild who can’t get that sports equipement they wanted because some parent says no. In this case if they didn’t get the “win” they wrecked the place – like the grandchild thought he could get do. Hope the police catches every single one of those “smiling idiots” and the judge gives every single one of them major jail time. This will continue unless lessons are severely taught to this “Gangster Type Crowd” who think they know it all.
It looks like Vancouver still has a lot of descent people to overpower these scumbags.
Frankly, police brutality was in line here. They better be proactive if there is a next time.
However, next time there should be NO large gatherings. A curfew downtown. Have to show a game ticket even to get on sky train.
Tim in Vermont and bartinsky nail it. There is a political view that fosters and encourages what happened in Vancouver.
I’m from Vancouver and I can’t buy into this misty-eyed romance about the city. Sure, it’s blessed with geography but in recent years it has become increasingly thuggish. It’s crime rates for theft and burglary are the worst in North America and we frequently have violence at public events such as these. Marijuana grow-ops are the province’s second-biggest industry after forestry, we’re a money laundering capital of the world, The Economist magazine said we have the highest concentration of gangs in the world and the assimilation of these gangs into public life is so complete that one of our top private schools has had two (unrelated) parents murdered in the last few years for their involvement in such crime.
It’s everywhere and the only thing keeping the rotting edifice afloat is a sudden flooding of the housing market with mainland Chinese money, much of it undoubtedly the proceeds of corruption back home.
The city is awash in criminality.
I am going to blame the majority of Canadians on this mess, by continually promoting the false ideology that compassion comes without discipline and punishment.
Obviously it is not all Canadians who believe this, since there is many of us who believe the individual is first and foremost responsible for their own actions. But for most Canadians the idea that those who prosper are due to deviant and anti-social behavior, and those who are deemed the “unfortunate” and “unprivileged” are due to the actions by the prosperous.
People of the left will say that this riot is a disgrace and there is no good reason for it to have happened. But there is a great reason, and it can be explained simply with a mirror and a ballot box.
If Canadians are going to continue to believe that concrete results can come with soft action, than we Canadians are going to be hit with a brick many times over.
The scariest, and most disgusting sequence in the videos to oooze out of Vancouver on Wednesday was of the line of police retreating! They supposedly represent the sane part of society and they were backing up! Who can we count on – the nice people that come out the morning after the nignt before to clean-up? In my mind they are the useful idiots. Society does not need a clean up crew, we need order to be imposed. We need the anarchists out of business. The courts can do it, but only if they choose. There will be cases and appeals, and appeals of appeals, – endless employment for the legal industry. Justice? I am not optimistic. I just pray that I may one day sit on the jury for one of these losers!
Oh, and G.D. House arrests!
The anarchist thugs who ravaged the streets should be cleaning them up and made to pay for damages.
” A curfew downtown. Have to show a game ticket even to get on sky train.” — Gobi desert@ 10:39
I really have to disagree with this part of your post.
Why should all be punished? And where does it stop if a curfew and limiting sky train access doesn’t work.
The police should have been better prepared to strike quickly and effectively. Water cannons and/or tear gas with-in a minute or two if orders to disperse are not heeded.Mass arrests to follow.
There would be complaints,but the chance of this happening again would be reduced.That is real crime prevention as opposed to restricting the public because of crime.
Arrests are being made – our buddy Brock Anton from yesterday morning fame is one of them.
Better yet, ICBC has announced they are going after the fools who burned cars insured by ICBC for financial recovery.
Make the skanky little buggers pay big time because they don’t fear the criminal justice system.
I think that it is imperative that we learn from this tragedy and make sure that the watchword is never again! There should be “Safe Riot Zones” where our unfortunate disaffected youth can gather during times of overwhelming stress and heartache. Proper sanitized rocks, clubs, rags, and gasoline cans can be provided along with private property (like windows and cars) confiscated from local business people.
These are troubled times and the young of Vancouver and the lower mainland should be allowed to riot in a safe and secure setting with free medical care available in case someone accidentally gets hurt.
Of course, all combustibles should be made of proper bio-fuels or a carbon credit equivalent to ensure that the program does not contribute to global warming.
Anyone that opposes this new policy a corporate nazi tool of the Harperite dictatorship.
“Getting Past the Vancouver Riots of 2011-06-15”
We’ll never get past it, no matter how good-hearted the people of Vancouver are in voluntarily cleaning up and lifting everyone’s spirits. The reason Canadians will never get past it is because we have set ourselves up for it to happen again, and again and again. And the thugs know they will be able to get away with it again because Canadians will simply swallow it all “with a let’s feel good about ourselves” party afterwards. The problem will continue to be with the justice system and politically-correct policing.
There was a brief interview with one of the first thugs who was arrested and charged in the riot on my local news last night. He had a big smile on his face as he left the Vancouver jailhouse and said non-chalantly: “Oh well, I guess I’m going to have to face these charges in court”. As if he was fighting a parking ticket or a minor speeding ticket. That’s because he knows his punishment will probably be even less than a speeding ticket — he probably won’t even pay a mandatory fine, much less see any jail time.
Until our airy-fairy judges can find the balls to actually hold people responsible nothing is going to change. For example, there is a thing called “restituitive/restorative justice” that judges in the U.S. exercise from time to time. Basically it means that if you break something then you pay for it (plus jail time for other charges if applicable). It means that if you break a $2,000 plate glass window, then the court clerk is waiting there after sentencing to gather your financial information and ready to put a lien on your bank account, or on that expensive flat-screen TV you have in mom’s basement. If people were actually required to pay for what they break (plus labour), then I can guarantee that they would think twice about breaking stuff. Why should the taxpayer foot the bill?
And how about getting the insurance companies and store owners involved? Let them sue the thug as well — why should the store owner have to pay for his increase in insurance rates that will inevitably follow his claim, and why should the insurance company pay in the first place when the person responsible has been arrested and convicted and can be held liable? Insurance companies have excellent investigators — better than cops — and collection agencies are quite good at making people’s lives miserable for many many years. I’d love to see that happen to the thugs — the natural offspring and spoiled brats of our “gimme gimme” Unionist, entitlement, and special interest group generation.
When I was kid we were brought up to pay for stuff we broke — even if it was an accident, we at least offered to pay. And we took it out of our allowances or part-time jobs. Sorry, but no kudos to Vancouverites and their good-will story. They’re suckers.
Where were the stun-guns, Oh ya, I guess they were afraid to use them. There would have been very few complaints toward police if a few punks were stun-guned or batonned real good around the head.
I am increasingly disappointed in the Canadian police forces across the country.
A real riot is occurring – Put up yellow tape because you can always harass law abiding citizens later to show you really are tough.
just heard the president of London Drugs on the radio – they had a store ransacked and a half million in cameras/electronics was stolen.
He said the rioters took two hrs to break in through the safety glass/ barricades and for that tow hours no police showed up. Two hours and the police didn’t show.
If I was the President of London Drugs, I would now have a speed dial set for a private security company. Having a couple of really big muscled guys holding baseball bats standing in front of the store would have been enough to scare off any cowards in the riot.
Money that would be well spent.
Some of the criminals named.
http://blog.deliciousjuice.com/2011/06/16/only-human/
@ ricardo. I agree, pretty much what I said.
I was talking to my Dad a couple weeks ago regarding a green house that I had accidentally tossed a rock at. I was 4 at the time, and a 12 year old boy was egging me on to throw stones at a fence. Little did I know that that this 12 year old knew full well there was a glass green house on the other side. Well his plan worked an I smashed out a window. The owner came out and confiscated my bike. Later that day once my Father had come home, he made restitution with the home owner. My punishment was to work off the money that my Dad paid by helping the owner with chores.
I was 4, and even though it was an accident I had to own up to my mistake. I’m 37 years old now and remember that day vividly. I doubt what my Dad did for me, happens often to day.
tim in Vermont…..
Subculture is a very limited term. I think there is a social trend of global proportion of collapsing authority. It is double edge sword. On one hand for example people don’t bow to experts on global warming, on the other flash mobs.
I also wonder if people who use Greek term ‘anarchy’ don’t understand that it is not a lack of social rules or they just honestly believe that only a government is the sole facilitator of social rules?
btw… another ancient Greek term ‘democracy” refers to the system where any free citizen can propose the law and people vote on it. Would that be an anarchy?
There’s nothing like a little Motley Crue to compliment that hazy, trashy imagery unique to the west coast. In all fairness though, the video could have used a lot more from the flasbang-to-the-nuts department.
Knacker….because you have had dad. Today, if any leftard is rooting for causes, he or usually she – single mother feminist should have taken a look at the bicycle helmet wearing kid throwing rock out of anger at parent’s divorce, blended or patchwork family.
Another view point (sorry if it has already been posted)
http://sports.nationalpost.com/2011/06/16/of-course-the-vancouver-rioters-were-hockey-fans/
The media here is really downplaying how bad the VPD really screwed this up. They ignored a lot of the advice from the inquiry into the ’94 riot.
Among others, I altogether agree with ricardo, xiat, and Knacker. This is a cross post by me from the other day because, in all the coverage of this mess, there’s been almost no reference to the root cause:
“The liberal, secular dispensation, which dominates the whole public—and much of the private—culture is to blame for this. This is the disease. If it’s not diagnosed properly, it can’t be treated.
“‘Spare the rod, spoil the child’ is the biblical lesson. It’s been turned on its head in the western, post-Christian world. Now it’s ‘Spare the child. Ban the rod’—‘rod’ standing for both physical and other forms of punishment, a concept that’s been banished in our public education systems and all others in our therapeutic society. Thugs are to be treated with respect and concern. Then they’ll be nice. Is that so? Unhindered by boundaries or substantial consequences for breaching them, the kindergarten student, who kicks the teacher, grows into the vandal we saw last night and at the G20 and at . . . the list goes on.
“Is the therapeutic society the peaceful utopia we were promised? Vancouver last night is the picture of the Hieronymus Bosch hell we’ve created. Has anyone noticed how tyrannical toddlers are? In the past, parents, with the help of the church and school, reined in their kids. If it took a spanking, so be it. E.g., My kids only had two each—flat hand on the clothed bottom—enough to let them know I meant business, and then spankings were no longer needed.
“Now, the post-Christian generation of parents has been brainwashed to believe that spanking or raising one’s voice to one’s misbehaving kids is child abuse. Some sympathy for the parents: the public agencies, via the Charter, are all too willing to go after ‘insensitive’ parents. Parents, teachers, and the police are now the ones reined in and punished. We’re now seeing the full blown results of such lunacy.
“Go anywhere where there are kids—it starts before kindergarten: our kids HAVE NO FEAR OF ADULTS. ‘The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.’ It’s sort of the same with kids and adults in any society. No fear, along with the impetuousness and arrogance of youth, is an incendiary combination. The kids are running rampant and it’s the adults, who should be in charge, who are running scared.
“Are we ready to name the disease? If not, things will get far worse before—and if—they get better. Things don’t have to get better: great civilizations fall—usually they decay from the inside out, and are exploited by outside, hostile forces. I believe we’re headed, swiftly, in a downward trajectory. It’s about time the adults were in charge—parents, teachers, and police. But wait! A lot of the so-called ‘adults’ behave like toddlers, themselves. Vicious circle . . .
“Kyrie eleison.”
Knacker, I once had a window in my classroom broken by a student whose action was altogether premeditated—“Mrs. __, he said he was going to break your window”—I saw him running away and there were multiple witnesses: the stupid kid did it at recess! He told admin(uscule brains) that “It was an accident”. Despite the many eye witnesses and my extensive, anecdotal evidence that the action was premeditated, the VP accepted the kid’s lie: no consequences. I was, as usual, appalled by the supine behaviour of “those in charge”. (And that was 15 years ago.) These days, the man who confiscated your trike—I assume!—would have been excoriated, and maybe charged, by your angry parent. (Bless your dad and parents like mine, who made one face the music. If we had more parents like that these days, things would be very different.)
Unless we decide, as a society, to hit back hard at the hooligans we’re spawning, things are going to further deteriorate. It’s a bloody mess.
Posted by: Knacker at June 17, 2011 12:16 PM:
“I was 4, and even though it was an accident I had to own up to my mistake.”
Knacker, excellent post and I’m truly heartened to know that the practice was still followed in your generation (I’m a bit older than you).
I carried those principles throughout my life. For example when I was a young man I worked as an auto mechanic and occasionally I would break something accidentally on a customer’s vehicle. I always voluntarily paid for it out of my meagerly wages, and although the business I worked for was one of the most prosperous in the city, I never deigned to charge it to the owner as the cost of doing business when working with big tools in a cramped workspace.
Do you think you would find workers today that would take that sort of personal responsibility? Never, especially in a Union environment, and more than likely they would lie about the accident, or claim the customer had caused the damage, or employ their trade skills to fraudulently cover up the damage.
Make the thugs pay in real cash, plus jail time, and after they get out of jail make sure there are a couple big plain-clothes cops waiting for the thug in the back alley to smack him around a little to make sure he gets the message that they don’t want to see him back there again. And make sure we hire judges who could care less if a thug gets smacked around a little. Fire the rest of them.
The old way worked better.
“I bet this guy wouldn’t last until morning if he struck that pose during the Katrina riots”
Ron at 12:12 PM great link!
So allegedly the kid lighting the cop car has a father who is a doctor: Dr. Greg Kotylak. If the facts prove to be correct, then said father should be paying for the police car, which I suspect is a $70k vehicle once you include all the extra equipment.
I just tried calling Dr. Kotylak’s office, but all I got was an answering machine saying that the office was closed until Tuesday.
As a taxpayer who does not want to get the bill for this father’s useless spoilt brat disgusting son, I will call him again on Tuesday and express my views. Hopefully between now and then the facts will be confirmed.
No way in hell am I going to sit by and let the parents who raised such brats walk away from the bill.
This what happens when you try to burn an overturned Prius in Van.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=961_1308314880
@Ron – good link. Don’t see any “career anarchists” here, do you? Just the clean-cut children of good suburban liberals.
Posted by: TJ at June 17, 2011 1:15 PM
I agree, but I think you’re missing somthing TJ — why should daddy have to pay for it? If the punk has the physical strength and ingenuity to succesfully smash and burn things, then surely he can get a summer job at a construction company and swing a shovel or push a wheel-barrel to pay it off…those Portuguese and Italian construction bosses don’t screw around — he’ll soon learn the value of money and hard work. Make sure you suggest it to his daddy (pussy-nanny) the Doctor.
Ricardo, I agree entirely, if the kid can be made to pay for it then he should. But the chances of that happening are usually pretty slim, and it could take years.
Daddy should foot the bill, and the brat can sort out with Daddy how to pay him back.
One thing is for certain: if the kid and father are indeed correctly identified, then now way in hell should the taxpayer have to pay for it.
Yep, just loved the dude lighting the cop car on fire…NOT!
How in the hell do you have such a monumental brain fart, that it causes you to light a cop car on fire. As if one would think that they aren’t going to find you?
Say hello to some serious jail time and your new buddy Bubba!
Did it ever occur to these asshats that some ammunition might explode…which has the potential to you know KILL SOMEONE?
Gleefully lighting the gas tank on fire, which in a partially empty state, would act like a bomb…
Well if you need to know what evil run amok looks like; the Vancouver Riot 2011 has been quite the demonstration.
@ lookout:
Agree with your post the the root causes are “consequence free” moral relativism; and it’s of course the ever present “society’s fault”.
Nope, it is individual actors who need individual consequences. I would agree they need to go after these morons ‘hammer and tong’.
Vancouver’s very own “Night of Broken Glass and Burning Cars”!
Simpletons and thugs one and all…
This is generally recognized as the lack of a moral compass, ie individuals without an internalized set of boundaries. But then people without a conscience don’t even know they are disgracing themselves.
They just exchanged the Brownshirts for the Canucks jersey. Nice! sarc/ off
Liquored up and full of stupidity,false bravado and Molotov cocktails…oooh,oooh showing up ‘the MAN’.
What these reprobates need is a good ass whipping and about 3000 hours of community work doing clean up and polishing the sidewalks with toothbrushes.
And since they have failed to find an internalized set of principles to live by; the Criminal Code should provide them with an externalized set of consequences to live by…
Cheers
Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
Army Group “True North”
1st St. Nicolaas Army
Google the Dr. He is a corporation, employes two people. Gee, from what layton says, only oil companies and banks are corporations.
This dr can use his tax reduction to pay for the car.
Well this is too much fun. Here’s the facebook page with evidence against one of the apparent perps:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=106341806125325&set=o.121837081234162&type=1&theater
People are letting him have it in the comments. At the bottom you will see he has decided to turn himself in:
“Brydon Harker: honestly i dont remember this and im turning myself in. I’m sorry to everyone”
Another moron kid who cannot use the caps key.
And here is his actual facebook page:
http://www.facebook.com/brydon.harker
Notice all the hockey jerseys etc. So definitely a fan (sorry Robert).
I wouldn’t pay for it TJ. I’d throw the kid out first and say “sorry, I’m no longer his guardian — I’m not responsible”. Let the kid go to the homeless shelter and wake up at 4:00 a.m., jump on the truck and work the fields with the Mexican field-workers. After he gets to know some of them he will discover that they consider it a privilege to work in the fields in Canada because they have enough money to support their families back home…
Whjile I agree with those hoping for some form of retribution against the thugs, I am not naive enough to believe that it will happen. You only have to look at the smirking faces of some of the goons being released to know that they realize it as well.Watch for our wonderful Canadian legal system work to ensure that lawyers make money and the thugs walk with little or no penalty.The “teams of lawyers” that we see mentioned so often will be paid for by us of course.
The businesses that have video or pictures of people leaving their premises with stolen items should institute civil action against them. More chance of a conviction and penalty.
Employers should be looking at the photos and video to see what kind of people they have working for them.Prospective employers should be doing this as well.I certainly wouldn’t hire a theif or a vandal.
Rex Murphy has penned a column on the rioters.
“The rioters are a third-rate band of losers” — is probably his mildest description.
http://www.nationalpost.com/todays-paper/Punish+those+tore+heart+city/4961167/story.html
Idiots will be idiots and squishy, touchy-feely governments (i.e., liberal) enable them at the expense of law-abiding citizens. I live in the Seattle area. Our own experience with this type of destruction (WTO 1999) was directly attributable to our city government (almost exclusively Democrat) not allowing the Police to do their job. Our Police Officers were so ham-strung with rules of engagement calculated to protect the “rights” of those rioting, that they could only stand back and watch as the violence and destruction escalated. It appears that Vancouver has elected a similarly ineffectual and weak city government.
It’s interesting to note that when the World Bank and IMF met in Washington, DC, in 2000, protestors planned a repeat performance of Seattle. They learned, much to their horror, that, unlike the neutered Seattle Police, the DC Police DO NOT tolerate any shenanigans whatsoever (well, aside from Congressional shenanigans, but that’s another topic). I remember one young man wearing a Green Peace shirt on the news complaining bitterly that he had been hit with a night stick and had a – wait for it – bruise. Oh, the humanity! My husband and I wished we knew the name of the officer responsible so we could send him/her a gift card for a lovely steak dinner.
I wish a journalist would find Brigette,the silly senate page,and ask her opinion of this mayhem.
Could this be the street action of a ‘Vancouver spring’ ?
Robert, your Vancouver boosterism is getting awfully tiresome.
Spritzing a turd with Chanel 5 does not make it any more appealing.
There is something very wrong with our society,(others comments about spanking and personal responsibility ring true for me). Personal responsibility has been thrown in the gutter by many.
The socialist experiment that is BC and more particularly Vancouver and its immediate environs is unravelling and the “bad guys” are over-running the “good-guys” regularly.
Blame Trudeau, the bill of wrongs, social activists and weak-kneed judges. The die was cast after the 1994 riots, when a cop doing his duty utilized his weaponry correctly and was pilloried for it. Police are now paid handsome overtime to WATCH looting and arson, and I don’t blame them, there would be no protection or support from the police department for the type of policing required to successfully quell these acts. Police management is a sour joke. Lawlessness, open drug dealing, gunfights on the street, are all commonplace and for the most part accepted.
Recent comments by our premier, attorney-general,Vanc mayor and police chief convince me that nothing has been learned and serious property crime and arson is “acceptable”. Comments about “full weight of the law” are fatuous. People must now realise that property protection is a personal business you can expect NO timely intervention by the police.
My advice- get a firearms licence, and a shotgun for the house, get expert training in its use and the legalities surrounding lawful use.
From my perspective the ugliness of Vancouver is typified by the graffiti covered construction plywood scabbed into the window openings at the Hudson Bay store where there should be beautiful displays . That people think this shows “spirit” is a cruel hoax.
Vancouver cannot survive on natural beauty alone, it requires an uncorrupt administration and federal representation and sensible application of law for the benefit of the law-abiding majority. None of that was on display recently.
People blame the police for inaction and lack of practical planning in which they did not prepare for the worst evantuality. There is an initial problem with the organization of most(or all) police forces. The senior ranks are promoted on a political basis. They simply do not know how to plan for what happened. They also do not have the courage to take required action. If a public event would require police presence the planners should not be a higher rank than staff sergeant. And the officers in charge at the scene the same
rank. The planners should be people who have worked the streets and are not glib paper pushers.
How appropriate that the sponsored add showing up on my Facebook screen is for this: http://www.pardonswaiverscanada.com/docs/index.php
The Facebook add shows a man with full head tattoos standing in front of the police line-up board and reads: “Your no different than this guy”.
How left it is.
@wallyj – Brigitte is too busy promoting her new career as a celebrity.
I went down, down, down in a burning ring of smart cars.
Nice video but far too complimentary. There is absolutely no excuse for what happened. This will blight Vancouver for decades. The whole episode goes to show that Vancouver is just not ready for prime time…or the Stanley Cup.
During the Roman Empire the decedent feeding of Christians to the lions was a spectators sport. What the socialists want everyone to believe is that those holding their thumbs up had higher morals than those holding thumbs down…
The active participants (those burning cars etc) in the Riot would have actually been very easy to contain if they hadn’t had the cover provided by the thousands of idiots that were “equally” contributing participants in the riot. It is those cheering & taking pictures, ignoring police orders to disperse that have the higher moral failing…
The NHL have a responsibility to protect the players & their families from cities that
are obviously unsafe & officials that are unwilling to take responsibility..
Vancouver is in decay and the Social engineering freaks are in constant denial.