Just when you thought the messages coming out of the non-trans fat pie holes mouths of Lefties couldn’t get any more ridiculous, comes this story from Reuters.
“A U.S. conversation group has sued the federal government over its approval of a major solar power plant in the California desert, the latest in a string of challenges to the nation’s renewable energy goals from the environmental community.”
I Hate The Media shares their thoughts.
Oh, I love that….”A U.S. conversation group”
Lance, I didn’t catch that! But it is what Reuters wrote and I am quoting them verbatim.
Why don’t they just say that they really don’t like human beings (probably including themselves) and they wish that we’d all commit suicide? This lawsuit is a de facto admission that that’s the case.
On the bright side, at least it’ll stop a waste of tax monies on solar crap. (Assuming the company hasn’t gotten millions of tax dollars already.)
Put a bunch of those overweight, over-indulgent, under-worked sloths to work on bike generators. They could lose pounds, gain better health and be paid a percentage of the power they generate for the grid. Not to mention being too tired to complain. What?! too sensible? 😉
I think it is a funding thingie. Sue, they pay you to go away. This has been going on with wind farms, ranchers, solar and hydro for a few years. Control the land.
We used to call it extortion or at least the courts would call it frivolous and not award costs but that was before we progressed.
At least that lot of environmentalists are consistent in objecting to any and all forms or electricity.
Iowa Jim @ 9:46 is onto to something. The message that I get from too many environmentalists is, “The only way to save the planet is for all of us humans to kill ourselves.”
I wonder how many of the exact same environmentalists were out protesting the neutron bomb and atomic weapons in general 20 years ago? Because they were trying to save humanity, of course!
I am confused …
“For years, man has yearned to destroy the sun. I shall do the next best thing- blot it out.”
Mr. Burns, The Simpsons
The proposed project will have a 4073 acre footprint. The 214,000 mirrored heliostats will cast a fairly significant shadow impacting plant growth, while acting as an obstacle to animal movement, and causing significant reflection to birds flying overhead. The heliostats will be aimed at three 3 power towers that will be equipped with steam generators. Wellwater will be used as a source. Natural gas will serve as a backup energy source when sunlight is in short supply. Permanent asphalt roads, transmission lines and security fencing add to the mix. Apparently, there are some Indian burial grounds involved as well. An environmental assessment is not a bad thing. http://bit.ly/ggb6Ka
It’s obvious that this is simply another of Big Green’s fundraising through rent-seeking and/or extortion exercises. I still maintain that I have more of a grudging respect for Al Capone’s direct and transparent message, “Pay up or we bomb your business.”
I wonder if the natural gas will be used to run generators to run high-powered WW2 arc lamps onto the mirrors after nightfall sort of like that Spanish case?
8^)
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Has anyone looked at the energy density of this power project? DaveH notes that the power plant takes up 4073 acres but produces a mere 370 Mw; this is only 90.8 Kw/acre! In contrast, 4×1500 Mw nuclear plants require only 1483 acres (just googled “nuclear power plant area” until I found a proposed Indonesian project) which gives 4.05 Mw/acre, 44.6x the energy density of the solar project. The actual area taken up by nuclear plant buildings is much smaller than the area given above as there is a “safety zone” around the reactors. Nuclear plants would be far less disruptive to the environment than solar collectors as well as producing far more energy.
Then again, none of this may be necessary if the Italian cold-fusion demonstration of last week based on nickel-hydrogen fusion isn’t just an elaborate scam. If it’s for real, then we’ll have unlimited supplies of cheap energy and the added benefit of multiple greenie head explosions.
Maybe the greenies are against it because it might actually be a viable project? I mean, their usual M.O. is that they only favor stuff that doesn’t work. Here we’ve got a solar power project that’s actually in the desert and is fairly far south. Could it be possible that it won’t lose money and will actually produce some usable power?
It might be that the greenies aren’t wrong about this one. I mean, I wouldn’t want to fly over it.
I think this can all be boiled down to the fact that the greenies aren’t all that smart. They like solar power in theory, but because they are all technological illiterates, they never realized that this is what solar power means.
Conservation wasn’t the only misspelling. It’s the enviro mental movement.
I hadn’t heard that the Italians,or anyone else,had successfully managed cold fusion.
It’s probably just another example of “we’re almost there, let’s make the announcement”, which we’ve seen so many times in the last 25 years.
Whatever happened to the guy who had invented the hydrogen fueled car in his garage in Florida and was granted a couple of hundred thousand to continue his research?
Just more wishful thinking.
In the meantime,back here in the real world,the solar plant takes up so much land area,they’d be way better off going to a nuclear power plant.
The basis of the Green religion,though, is they wish we’d all just disappear from Mother Earth and save the planet for the cockroaches.
Loki, two points. The power density of the solar plant is actually much less. You have to take into account the power factor, which for the solar plant, accounting for clouds and diurnal variation alone will be on the order of about 15 per cent or so. The number DaveH used I think is based on maximum rated power.
As for the Italians, this is just another perpetual motion machine scam. Notice from the accounts, no data and a constant input of outside electricity.
Better off having a managed 4073 acre woodlot and then burning the wood,nature has already figured out the solar energy thing for us.
These enviros are genuinely dangerous…..
They baseline much like that Loughner fellow…
These crazy people seek to run the world…
I looked on the website of the Western Watershed Project and this lawsuit is about saving the nesting grounds of a desert tortoise. which is smack dab in the middle of this solar collector. These people are loons and are anti development. I almost believe that they wished the human race would become extinct
All that’s left for us to use is Nuclear. Promoting and using Nuclear technology takes balls! Balls on your chin!
Enviro-nuts are the very people who are proof that we, as a civilization, are growing stupider, all because we have allowed stupid people to not just breed with one another (and eventually end up as zoo exhibits) but breed with the general population over and over again. Enviro-nuts, 9-11 truthers, and Hollywood are all evidence of stupidity’s tendency to produce progressively stupider offspring. The only thing we can do is gently and kindly relocate stupid people to facilities where they will be cared for, observed, and used to serve as a dire warning to the rest of humanity.