Canada’s National Firearms Association announces Operation Zero Tolerance;
It has come to the attention of Canada’s National Firearms Association that the political police chief heads of law enforcement associations are planning a nation wide blitz against licensed firearms owners, as retribution for the political action of the Canadian firearms community that has resulted in the final vote in parliament of Manitoba MP Candice Hoeppner’s Bill C-391.
The Canadian Association of Police Chiefs (CACP) has formed a “National Firearms Policy” in order to coordinate enforcement initiatives against licensed firearms owners with registered firearms. Canada’s National Firearms Association has information that CACP will be directing their members to clamp down on licensed firearms owners with registered firearms as punishment for their political action to reform bad firearms control laws.
Details and contact information at the link.
As our Auditor General noted the $2 BILLION gun registry has been a big old slush fund for the police chiefs association.
It appears the police chiefs don’t like losing their lolly. If Bill is so concerned about officer safety, pointing out that 14 officers were killed by long guns, hardly speaks to the efficacy of the registry.
Rather it shows how abysmally the long gun registry has failed. Not to mention the billions squandered down the proverbial financial rat hole.
There are better ways to spend this money.
This policy should have been shot down in flames long ago. Maybe the new F-35 Lightning CF fighter can ventilate this policy adequately with about 180 rounds from the GAU-22/A four-barrel 25mm cannon.
Should do the trick.
Cheers
Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
So let’s be clear:
Because law abiding citizens have exercised their freedom of expression, via the legal process and have voiced their opinions about legislated law:
The public service sector (Canadian Police Chiefs) have independently decided that they are going to bully, harass and punish these same law abiding, tax-paying citizens?
*Anyone in Canada with a gun licence and registered guns is a proven law abiding citizen by default. Otherwise they would not have passed the background checks, nor would they have registered their firearms to begin with.
Now these “public servants” will use that same registry to attack these citizens. It only goes to prove how wrong the Registry was to begin with.
Every Canadian, gun owner or non gun owner should be very worried about these Stalanist tactics. They do after all have other information at their disposal about YOU – registered guns aside.
Am I really hearing this?
Also read MP Candice Hoeppner Aug 23/10 press release:
http://candicehoeppner.com/pg_news/details.asp?ID=181
“….Edmonton police officer Randy Kuntz’s national survey of Canadian police officers revealed that 92 percent of police officers in Canada want Members of Parliament to vote in favour of scrapping the long-gun registry.”
Candice Hoeppner MP
New Website – “Scrap the Registry”
http://www.scraptheregistry.ca/
Includes online counter “Countdown To The Vote = 27 days, 1 hour, 6 minutes, 31 seconds”…….
A Police Chief may be fired for malfeasance, it would be reasonable for a City Council to weigh the liability issues…
Always have at least two guns.
A registered one for shooting intruders,
and an unregistered one for placing in the hand of dead intruders to justify self-defense.
Kate:
Thanks for your visit into North Carolina,
we are better for having you.
A woman can stand on the side of the road with hands on her hips in NC,
staring at a flat tire.
3 NC men will stop
and bust their knuckles trying to fix it-
Southern Chivalry!
Anyway…
Old North Carolina bumper sticker-
“When guns are outlawed,
only outlaws will carry guns.”
“Gun control is better with both hands.”
Thanks, Kate. I’ll be sure to update my post at The Politic.
police chiefs who want to play politics in the open should be taught the foolishness of this idea !fire them all!
The registry was always about social re-engineering, ultimately leading to confiscation. That’s why most people never registered their guns. Maybe its time we elected police chiefs after we fire every damn one of the present ones.
Long guns in the possession of law abiding Taxpayers are all licensed
Long guns in the possession of criminals are not licensed
the registry exposes the personal information of the owners of long guns to organizations such as the Toronto Star and criminals
home invasions will then be a source of criminals obtaining long guns should their smuggling of guns be inhibited
as a law abiding taxpayer I am tired of my money being wasted
I do not own a gun but as a young person I used to hunt with my Father
Guns do not kill people criminals kill people
We need to direct our Tax dollars to police protection
we need to have more police officers not a usless registry of long guns
fh
I tried to make the point at the CBC the Chief is a political position. If the Chief wants to move up to a bigger city they cannot be seen to be against the registry. It is self interest. They have a chauffeur with a gun. You don’t. Tried being the key word.
To all Leftists;
You feared the right would turn the world into “big brother” as in the book “1984”… well congratulation, it is actually happening at the hands of leftists.
Dear leftists,
You are the person your mother warned you about.
fh at August 26, 2010 7:53 AM
“home invasions will then be a source of criminals obtaining long guns should their smuggling of guns be inhibited”
Not will be are. I was such a victim about 5 years back…….they had a list…..
The Canadian Association of Police Chiefs (CACP) are the financiers of Wendy Cukier’s Coalition for Firearms……
Well I am sure glad the CoPs have figured out where all the crime & violence is coming from and will target the source.
About time. Now that they have solved the problems with Organized Crime, neutered the Hell’s Angels & The Triads, stopped the drug trade and busted all the illegal native’s selling poisonous tobacco, they can divert their attention and our tax dollars where the real crimes are.
The expression “Stuck on Stupid” comes to mind.
Maybe it is true what my constable cop friends . . . you don’t make Chief ‘caaue your smart, but having big lips & not minding the taste of shit helps a lot”
It is always helpful to remember that most “associations” representing the heads of any organizations which depend on tax revenues collected by other entities aren’t in the business of telling senior levels of government “Please stop wasting taxpayers money”.
Go along to get along.
If the police show up at your door (without a warrant) and demand that they show you your guns RIGHT NOW, send them packing. Only the CFO can conduct inspections and only upon agreeing upon a time to do so beforehand. Ask to see the CFOs identification, and videotape everything or have a lawyer present.
With this latest terrorism bust now playing out in our capital city I’d be more concerned with zero tolerance for any more immigration from countries that breed them, than to worry about registering freaking long guns.
If our police chiefs want to act like politicians maybe they should be elected as well…
Cops can lay all the charges they want – federal justice department decides whether to prosecute. If the chiefs go wacky with this maybe PMSH can instruct Justice to not proceed with the prosecution.
Just a thought.
The images of how the professional progressive cabal works is becoming more clear and it is critical that we understand this game. The Chiefs rose to their positions because they are political butt kissers. They now have to back their progressive Bosses, the Mayors, or they will be relegated to the basement tagging stolen bicycles. Even though the cops on the street are against the squirrel gun registry as a waste of time and money, the Chiefs back their progressive bosses because it is in their self-interest to keep the “Bosses” happy. Therefore we need to change the “Bosses”.
We have been run by progressive creep for decades which can be seen in this Zero Tolerance plot, the Obamarx gang that has hijacked America and now we see it in the mutiny forming at Socialist Silly Hall in Toronto where :
Councillors Kyle Rae along with Howard Moscoe are de facto saying that if Rob Ford gets elected the rest of council will have to caucus and choose their own Mayor from within and ignore Ford. Now isn’t that mutiny of Ford before he even gets elected by “we the people”? Are we in a democracy or not?
Therefore in order to get our Police Chiefs aligned with the cops who serve and protect, we need to change the Bosses and Rob Ford has become the enfant terrible because the professional progressives know that if Toronto can game change, then the whole country can. Sue-Ann Levy of the Toronto Sun explains what is going on:
“These puffed up, self-important champagne socialists are positively apoplectic that council’s enfant terrible (Rob Ford) is leading in the most recent polls. They would never admit that they and their beloved leader, the man I’ve called His Blondness, drove taxpayers to this point with their complete disdain for anyone who didn’t see the world their way and for their blatant disregard of the bottom line.”
There was a big announcement a few weeks ago by Harper of how the 200, (or 250), jobs that will be lost when the registry is shut down will be replaced.
Blair claims the registry costs $4 million a year, the recent registry report claims the costs are between $1.1 and 3.6 million a year.
Even at $4 million a year, how do you hire 200 civil servants for that let alone pay the other expenses?
I dunno what’s happening, but on it’s face it doesn’t add up.
As for the number of times the registry is accessed per day, that ranges from 7,400 to several bazillion per day depending on which gullible journalist is reporting it.
Yup…and they don’t have the staff or the time to catch crooks???
Snivel Servants behaving badly appears to be a epidemic in this nation? Perhaps we should publish said list of the Chiefs so we can call their political masters and demand the forkers be fired for shaking down lawabiding legal gun owners. Time to give said politicians an earful, we could also remind said politicians that their job are dependant upon the electorate and that electorate expects our law enforcement leaders to enforce the law not alledgedly coordinate a program to harass citizens out of spite, malice and revenge.
“Dr. Jones and the members of the ethics committee were in Montreal in August for two days of meetings around the CACP’s annual conference when they learned about Taser’s sponsorship and that of others, including a joint Bell Mobility-CGI-Group Techna donation of $115,000, which went toward the purchase of 1,000 tickets at $215 each to a Celine Dion concert on Aug. 25.”
Bell mobility and CGI hmm communication systems? Gun registry? Spidey senses?
It funny in that the report states that the Canadian police chiefs (against the will of 92% of officers) want to really nail taxpayers who own more than ten (10) guns.
What’s up with that?
The fact that they actually have 10 registered guns must mean something really bad.
Are there any case studies of a criminal walking into a bank with ten guns or more strapped to themselves? Could they walk? Why 10 guns and not homes with one or two, must be some sort of liberal super Rambo fantasy where middle aged Canadian men (who can afford ten guns) run around like cartoon he-men with guns sticking out everywhere like a porcupine. Libs are so gay.
If they succeed with gunowners?
Who’s next? You?
For what?
“Give us a name. We will find the crime.”
-KGB
Oh. When Blair speaks? Stand back 5 metres. It’s a law dontcha know.
Gun control has always been about punishing Conservatives. OPP riot squads face away from armed Mohawk “protesters” and toward unarmed Caledonia townies. The also beat up and arrest the townies, while taking rocks and bottles in the back of the head from the Mohawks.
Sometimes I wish I was just paranoid about it, because then a shot of medicine would make it go away.
Might be a good time to call up your CPC MP. Again. For the two hundredth f-ing time. And scream down the phone at him to FIX THIS.
Maybe firing a few top cops and Crown attorneys wouldn’t hurt either.
Told ya.
Feel stupid for registering your weapons? Good. You should.
Bad law should be disobeyed.
“Might be a good time to call up your CPC MP”
Phantom, I wish!
Living in what will hopefully become Ford City but meanwhile Toronto the good doesn’t have a single CPC MP. My Liberal MP got elected on the erudite campaign strategy of being “A Force for Good”, that’s all she (maybe he, hard to tell) wrote. Ergo the successful Liberal campaign thrust has been “about punishing Conservatives” for being a force for bad.
Kevin Gaudet of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation says that the registry costs three levels of government $106 million a year.
I don’t know if that is accurate or not, but I really wonder about Blair’s claims you can hire 200 civil servants and pay all the expenses of the registry for $4 million a year.
Which is the bigger threat to Canada, a few law abiding duck hunters or lying police chiefs like Blair and those who lied to us about the Taser killings in Vancouver?
Or lied about the fence at the G20?
The RCMP report says the registry costs between $1.1 and $3.6 million a year.
The liberals also lied about this registry every step of the way.
Again, I don’t think a few law abiding duck hunters are a threat to us but a police force that routinely lies to us is.
Robert Dziekański was killed by the RCMP, then they lied about it, that pissed the public off more than anything.
Then Blair lies about the weapons seized at the G20 and about the fence law.
Now the police are lying again about this.
People don’t like being lied to.
I think the way you win this one is by reminding people that the police are lying to us once again and it seems to have become a habit.
Nomdeblog >
Your liberal MP then sounds like the perfect person to call or write!
If anything libs will flip their “values” 180 degrees, faster than Mike Tyson flips a burger these days, if they feel politically threatened.
Here’s the link to the Gaudet story on the registry cost in the Sun:
http://www.ottawasun.com/comment/2010/08/25/15141726.html#/comment/2010/08/25/pf-15141731.html
Does anyone really know the full story on the registry? Do police officers really use it? What is the actual cost to taxpayers?
Mark Pugash, a member of the Toronto Police Service, talked with John Gormley on Tuesday and aggressively defended the registry. Pugash stated that the survey showing 92% of rank and file officers wanting to scrap the registry was inaccurate, inconclusive and probably rigged. Was the survey accurate? Who knows? Pugash also pointed out that the registry was accessed thousands of times per day by police officers. On this point, Gormley challenged him that it was CPIC that was being accessed, not the registry itself. Pugash vehemently denied this and stated unequivocally that the registry was a completely separate data base and was being utilized often. What’s the real story? How many times is the registry being assessed on a daily basis? Pugash went on to add that any opposition to the registry was based on dogma and political leanings …. a poorly-disguised swipe at the right side of the political spectrum. Finally, Pugash cavalierly dismissed the $4 million annual cost as money well spent.
Where is the media on this subject? Surely some journalist with a modicum of investigative skills can come up with the real story and set things straight once and for all.
Personally, I’m inclined to take a position in opposition to the police chiefs. They are, after all, more politician than police officer.
K99 , right! Will do and will use Stan’s “amo”
On a news sound bite one of the police chiefs stated that the police access the registry 11,000 times each and every day.
When do the police use this? Me thinks every time a private residence response to see if there are any guns registered to the homeowner. The cops want to know if there is a potential of a gun being pointed there way.
Only the beginning of the confiscation process.
Always have at least two guns.
A registered one for shooting intruders,
and an unregistered one for placing in the hand of dead intruders to justify self-defense.
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Wow.
Obviuosly the time and place for some retaliatory action. Too bad they’re so stupid that they don’t realize they need public co-operation to do their job properly.
Maybe the National Firearms Association can put together an on-line declaration that all law-abiding gun-owners can sign on to.
Something along the lines of: We the undersigned will (a) stop providing the cops with tips and information; (b) not allow police on our propery for any reason unless they have a warant; (c) boycott and stop funding all events that police associations support (Special Olympics, etc.)(d) etc., etc.
Police Chiefs are bureaucrats in terminal career positions who are incentivized to top up their last few years of benefits to translate into pensions. If they use stats to do so, what easier way than to make criminals out of law abiding citizens who have resisted the long gun registry. Sure beats going after real criminals. Also as mentioned above, what interests their political bossed intrigues the hell out of them. All those years of canine sex and consumption of Timmy’s Canadian Maples hasn’t made them totally oblivious to motivation.
Simple solution – take the costs of the gun registry out of the police chief’s office budget (or better yet, their salary).
What do you mean “wow” David? They just charged a guy for merely discharging a pistol in the general direction of three men armed with molotov cocktails, trying to set fire to his house.
Its a bad idea though. The authorities will chuck you in jail anyway, no matter if the intruder is armed or not. So there’s really no point to it.
They’re “sending a message” to all the other gun owners when they do things like this. The charge will most likely be defeated in court, but by the time that happens the defendant will have been put through utter hell and broken financially by the lawyers fees.
Message from the Canadian government: it is better to DIE than to dare defend yourself with a firearm.
Everybody got that?
I just wish these fools would look at how well confiscation of firearms has worked out for Australia and the not so Great Britain.
How well did it work out for Germany in the 1930’s.
mike
Wait, is this the good kind of civil liberties violations by police (the G20) or the bad kind (harassing Caledonia protestors in Ontario)? I can’t keep the partisan angle straight. I particularly enjoy how the left is all of a sudden now pro-police.
In any case, if this is the tipping point that finally gets conservatives to recognize that the police aren’t on our side and aren’t anything more than petty, officious functionnaries of the state then it is all worth it.
Wait, is this the good kind of civil liberties violations by police (the G20) or the bad kind (harassing Caledonia protestors in Ontario)? I can’t keep the partisan angle straight. I particularly enjoy how the left is all of a sudden now pro-police.
In any case, if this is the tipping point that finally gets conservatives to recognize that the police aren’t on our side and aren’t anything more than petty, officious functionnaries of the state then it is all worth it.
I’ve noticed a few Leftist trolls on SDA trying to assert that the views of the [highly political] police chiefs represent the views of police officers across the country. I don’t know if this is deliberate deception on the part of the Leftists or just their regular ignorance at work, but the statement is absolutely FALSE.
If you’d like to hear how average police officers feel about the Gun Registry then listen to this segment from Roy Green hosting Adler’s show on Tuesday. It will shed more than a little light on this entire subject!
bffjr, here are the facts. TPS PC Mark Pugash didn’t know, or hid the fact, that the police computers are rigged to check the gun registry automatically every time any check of any kind is made. This is how they run the numbers up. Since half the guns aren’t even in the system, and most of the entries have errors, most police do not trust the system. Any police trainer who tells his students to trust the registry will eventually have blood on his hands. The police do willfully check the registry for gun info, but that is only a few times a day, not thousands.
Finally, did Officer Pugash voice out that CFRO check results are voice out on an unencrypted radio system? A wrongdoer can monitor the system (not difficult) and within an afternoon and evening, he will probably have a few addresses that contain legal firearms. It’s a shopping list for criminals.
Finally, it’s on the public record that the registry has been hacked over 300 times.
Funny that immediately after PM Martin announced his plan to ban handguns, there were some high-profile legal handgun thefts. Odd, eh?
I’ve noticed a few Leftist trolls on SDA trying to assert that the views of the [highly political] police chiefs represent the views of police officers across the country. I don’t know if this is deliberate deception on the part of the Leftists or just their regular ignorance at work, but the statement is absolutely FALSE.
If you’d like to hear how average police officers feel about the Gun Registry then listen to this segment from Roy Green hosting Adler’s show on Tuesday. It will shed more than a little light on this entire subject!
Because the Conservatives have never had guts to get on private property rights, it is everybody’s business what you own or what you don’t. The latests gang association praising long gun registry are ER doctors.
There’s nothing like pissing off the people who would otherwise be your biggest supporters.