120 Replies to “Your Lying Eyes”

  1. Excellent video. He says it all. And go to the web site of
    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com
    It lists the constant Islamic killings of non-Muslims (and lower Muslims) on a daily basis.
    The video says it perfectly. Islam is not really a religion but a political and societal doctrine disguised as a religion. Take away that religious veneer and you are left with a hate-filled totalitarian ideology.
    An ideology that rejects individualism, the use of reason, democracy, collaboration, the idea of equality of peoples, rejects gender equality and rejects even life itself! If focuses on conquering all peoples, reducing them to passive enslaved peoples and killing any and all who fight back. It’s a militant political and societal ideology -formed as I’ve claimed – in the tribal politics of the 7th c world.
    Why has it arisen as fascist, in that original militant form, after so many centuries of quiet? I maintain it’s because of the refusal of the Islamic states to modernize, reject the elitism of tribalism, and enable instead a middle class (civic and non-tribal) to have economic and political power.
    Bush was right to try to enable democracy in the ME. Obama is destroying its growth with his rejection of the growth of democracy (his refusal to support the Iranian demonstrations for democracy) and his focus on ‘Islamic power’. At his Ramadan dinner the other night, Obama specifically referred to the Muslim achievements in ‘justice, progress, tolerance and human dignity’ – an outrageous statement given what we know of Islamic actions against all these attributes. And Obama praised Muslim ‘extrordinary contributions to the US’. He couldn’t, of course, provide even one example.
    Stop the mosque. That is hallowed ground and no religion has a right to build there – and a Muslim mosque in particular.

  2. This will all end in violence and “appeaser”/leftists will be to blame for it.
    again.

  3. Pat mentions Cordoba, Spain (Spain being Andalusia to the Muslims), but misses an opportunity to score a critical point:
    The one thing that American leaders — heck Canadian leaders for that matter — refuse to acknowledge is that once Islam owns a piece of land, however small or large, they consider it *forever* owned by Islam. If the planned mosque goes ahead then the land next to Ground Zero will always be Islamic and anyone who may own it in the future will be considered an occupier of Islamic land, the same way Islamists consider Spain (Andalusia) to be occupied territory.

  4. So, the only way to make sense of all this is that the Ruling Class wants Islam on their side ?
    Is it that simple? Is it that crazy? Any historical parallels? Nazi collaborators in France? Charles Lindbergh? Environmental activists/fascists? Kings & Queens from opposing countries intermarried yet sent their people into wars?

  5. Excellent post, as usual.The attacks by these revolting barbarians are too numerous to mention, but with school starting soon,let’s not forget the innocent children slaughtered in Beslan…

  6. remember,obama said on video, that he is a muslim before being corrected that he is a christian.
    Can you imagine that, being reminded of the faith you below too. Something doesn’t smell right.

  7. Love this line from the CTV story:
    “A Taliban spokesman could not immediately be reached for comment.”
    Such is the sad state of modern journalism. Can you imagine during the early 40s:
    “A Nazi spokesman could not immediately be reached for comment [regarding the barrage of missiles fired over London]”.

  8. Was Air Force One practicing the flyby for the grand opening? I mean it wouldn’t have true meaning without a flyby. Makes me ill.

  9. Thanks for the link to the montage, Kate! How soon we forget!!! And that is what makes us the most vulnerable. We have to constantly be reminded of not only Auschwitz, Buchenwald, Mauthausen, Bergen-Belsen and the hundreds of others but also of the USS Cole, the World Trade Center, London, Madrid, Bali, etc, etc, etc,. The Politically Correct elite are too numb to realize what is happening and they wont wake up until the Muslim call to prayer is echoing five times a day across Ground Zero. This is only the start of the beginning!!!

  10. As the father of three young children I find it tremendously difficult to view pictures of the Beslan massacre. Yes, because of the children, but mostly because I find an incomparable rage builds in my chest.

  11. Regarding the “back to school” link, let’s not forget what that slimeball Putin is doing, too. Talk about a betrayal.

  12. Excellent post cjunk.
    The diversity – cultural competence – oh so tolerant ones are ignorant sheeple willfully submitting to dhimmitude – they are guilty of clearing the way for the murdering of their own and others children. Arrogant fools – the lot of them. They pride themselves in being more tolerant – sophisticated – cultured than those they consider average and unenlightened – they do not see that those they look down upon are wiser and more educated than they. Pride comes before a fall. Unfortunately, when they fall it will be back onto others taking many down with them.
    I read some of the comments on You Tube – mostly Muslims trying to preach Muhammad while reminding Christians they are turn the other cheek.

  14. Colin from Mission B.C. at 12:31 PM, this brings to mind the story of those two young men (one of them Jewish) in the Ottawa area that were attacked by machete wielding “youths” and the CBC (at least I think it was the CBC) wanted to interview someone from the “other side”.

  16. Have the plans for the mosque been released? Will the be a stoning pit in the street in front of it?

  17. The pictures of Beslan, as horrible as they are, tell only part of the story. You need to read what they did to those people… and then you can be truly horrified.
    And yet more horrible still is how our politicians are selling out our society and culture to placate these terrorists. Neville Chamberlain was an innocent Saint by comparison.
    Do not let this happen to our children…

  18. And Pakistanis blockading roads and protesting because we aren’t send aid for their floods quick enough. A thank you would have been nice.

  19. Here’s my message to Ban-Kee Moon (Spank-Mee Soon would be more like it) …
    We will send aid to Pakistan when they send Bin Laden to us. Until then, let ’em take swimming lessons. Or is that another thing the Taliban does not allow?

  21. We must be discriminating in the application of tolerance, else we’ll enable intolerance as a result.
    I fear the true enemy is within. It is those that would defame and ruin you for speaking the obvious truth about the clash of civilizations that enables our enemies, making them also our enemies. We have long passed the point where we can look across the political aisle and assume that although we disagree, we have the same goals of freedom, liberty and happiness. Today when I look across the political aisle I see an aisle that’s usurped by those that do not share the same goals and values for our society moving forward. The only cure I fear is a good’ol a$$ whoopen (literally) for the Leftist fckwads. Cheap and effective I say!
    I believe that without this cancer in our midst the external threat could be managed with little difficulty.

  24. smitherenzes – yes, I’ve seen the complaints from Pakistanis against US Aid – declaring that they weren’t sending enough..and fast enough. What absolute nerve.
    Indiana Homez – yes, this internal threat, which is the progressives with their rejection of the individual and their focus only on group identities – with no evaluation allowed of the beliefs/behaviour of any group – is indeed a major obstacle to our civilization. It is, however, important to note that the individual, opting for the use of reason, personal responsibility and ethical judgments (as in the Tea Parties) is fighting back.
    But when you have a govt leader – such as Obama – living in his own world and focusing only on group identities and openly in support of this mosque – it’s very difficult.

  25. The blood that pours below the feet of the Islamists should be all the proof we need that Wahhabi Islam is not compatable with our culture or our society. Stop importing that man made form of Islam.
    He’s right Islam would be banned if it weren’t a religion, thus labeled it as a political ideology like Nazism and Modern Liberalism/Communism and Socialism/communism.

  26. Ah, ‘snipping’ isn’t too unusual around here eh? The blog that champions freedom and individual rights while practicing censorship.
    How do those opposed to the Mosque defend the inherent attack on individual rights and freedoms guaranteed to all American citizens that comes from it?
    “Bush was right to try to enable democracy in the ME.”
    America isn’t interested any enabling any true democracy, history has proven that over and over again. They are interested in suppressing nationalistic progress. Read a history book.
    Hmmmm..E llsworth T ooey?
    “That is hallowed ground and no religion has a right to build there – and a Muslim mosque in particular.”
    So you would equally be opposed to a Christian church at the site? Or any other religious structure?

  27. “We must be discriminating in the application of tolerance”
    Now that’s tolerance for ya! :S :S :S
    This all boils down to the American Constitution, and where or not you take is seriously.
    If you believe that it represents the most freedom and individual liberty in human history, then you will support it’s philosophy.
    If not, then you will pick and choose who gets those liberties and when…and you will be an Ellsworth Tooey…champion of the collective majority.

  28. I believe a simple answer has been provided with several Canadian commenters. This is a large prominent, permanent, notice “the reason for this building is to bring attention to the horrible; unjust attack; perpretrated on the American People by the foul attack in a direct distortion of the Quran by a group of cruel Arabic men. (sic)
    I will place my usual cheers here; well apart from the hypocrisy of the trolls representing the elitist political class and their running journalistic dogs.

  30. Islam is not a religion – it is a cult. Fits the definition perfectly – members are not allowed to leave – anyone who converts to another religion or denounces Islam or Muhammad is killed. Their leader instructs them to kill those who reject their beliefs. Islam is not a religion it is a cult, and cults have no protection under the constitution. Their leader married a six year old and consummated the marriage when she was nine – that is a crime – in every country. Their leader was a criminal,a murderous thug and sexual deviant. Islam is a cult.

  31. Ask for something; the more outrageous the better. When you get it, ask for something even more outrageous. When you get that, ask for something even more outrageous. When they have nothing left to give, make them your slaves. When the slaves are of no more value, kill them.

  32. @ ET
    Just curious but who cares if democracy ends the dictatorial regimes of the middle east? I don’t follow your point. Just because they are “liberated” from dictatorial regimes doesn’t mean that they will reconcile themselves with modernity and the west. Islam is in and itself a political system, and one that doesn’t rely on strongmen or politicians. Muslims are unified in purpose through Islam. I think it transcends the trivialities of representation and governmental “legitimacy”.
    Look at the bombings in Heathrow or wherever it was in Britain where it was perpetrated by Jordanian doctors. Look at that trust fund baby underwear bomber. Hell look at Turkey and Gaza where the free people voted in Erdogan and Hamas. Wealth and Liberty are simply not adequate weapons in stopping Islam.
    While we’re on the subject I don’t think Islam is the one who rejects reason. I mean just look at this Ground Zero mosque right? They demolish two gigantic structures and we refuse to name them as enemies. They build a monument on top of the graves of their victims and we allow it in the name of “tolerance”. Their reasoning is fine by my estimation. They are the ones practicing enlightened empiricism; they poke us we cower, the poke us again we cower, that’s a bona fide peer-reviewable repeatable result! We’re too busy drowning ourselves in the opiate of Romantic feel-good-isms. Even the so-called “moderate muslim” never condemn the acts, never stand in solidarity with Christians or Jews or the secular west they just give a weak press release saying they “condemn the acts”. Yet even the worst of us are still qualifying all our statements with “of course not ALL muslims are terrorists, or I have a problem with ‘militant’ Islam and not muslims” and other inanities out of some misguided attempt to avoid prejudice.

  34. Obamamosque
    Islam is not a religion, it is a doctrine for world conquest masquerading as a religion.
    The goals and objectives of Islam are no different from the goals and objectives of the Third Reich.

  36. M – Islamism is incompatible with democracy. Therefore, you can’t be both an Islamist and a believer in democracy.
    The point of democracy is its focus on the individual as personally responsible, as someone who by the use of his own individual reason, makes evaluations – based on facts. Yes, we know that as fallible humans, we aren’t always committed to reason, we fall into emotionalism. But the reality of democracy is that it exists to allow us to think, as individuals, and make decisions.
    As such, democracy is built around a middle class. This is a group whose wealth and property are created by their own work – not by hereditary ownership (of land, titles, authority). This group is empowered to make decisions about the political, economic and legal nature of the nation. Islamism rejects a middle class; it is built around tribalism – which is a societal and political system based around hereditary rights or the lack of such rights. In tribalism, your duty is to your kin group and your tribe. Not to your civic nation or other peoples. Tribalism rejects other peoples.
    Yes, I agree, there ARE moderate Musims who condemn Islamism but their voices are still not loud enough.
    The fact that we in the west, with our decadent progressivism, our cultural relativism, are not fighting back enough against Islamism doesn’t mean that Islamism uses reason or intelligence. It simply points out that they use physical power to deal with our own weakness.
    Plus – the fact that they cloak their political agenda under the guise of a religion is something very difficult for the West to understand. The West is clear about the nature of religion and its separation of church and state is so well established that it cannot fathom that Muslims equate the two. The mosque/religion IS a state and for them, that state must dominate everyone.
    We in the west have ignored Islamism for centuries and it really took 9-11 to wake us up. It’s still difficult for people to acknowledge the nature of Islam. The majority have no knowledge of Islam, have never read its texts, never heard the term ‘hadiths’, have no understanding of its axioms, no awareness of its sharia law. All they hear is the word ‘religion’ and instantly think – oh well, that’s someone’s private business’. No – it isn’t; Islamism is never an individual action; it’s a group action.

  37. BTJ: “How do those opposed to the Mosque defend the inherent attack on individual rights and freedoms guaranteed to all American citizens that comes from it?”
    That’s not the question. There is no “attack.”
    By God’s grace, Muslims in the West have inherent rights and freedoms that no non-Muslim has in Muslim countries — something to think about, BTJ. No one is attacking their inherent rights or freedoms to build a mosque in NYC. In fact, they’ve been offered other land by the government to build their mosque elsewhere in New York.
    The question should be, despite their inherent rights and freedoms to build a mosque in NYC, is it wise or compassionate to build it so close to Ground Zero, where over 3000 people were killed by Muslims on 9/11?
    Any thinking person, it seems to me, would have to answer “no.”
    Tell me this, BTJ: How do you defend the fact that although Muslims enjoy “inherent rights and freedoms” in the West, there are no commensurate rights and freedoms for non-Muslims in Muslim countries? Do you think that Christians, say, should have rights and freedoms in Muslim countries to build a cathedral in Mecca, a parallel situation? If not, why not?
    And, further, would you tell me, please, what “inherent rights and freedoms” Muslims have to build a mosque on the site of Ground Zero and not somewhere else?

  38. “Islam is not a religion, it is a doctrine for world conquest masquerading as a religion.”
    How about Mormonism?
    “The goals and objectives of Islam are no different from the goals and objectives of the Third Reich.”
    Watching a little too much FOX news are we? You know, for people who denounce the MSM so much, you sure do love to regurgitate empty statements from the self-proclaimed ‘#1 News Source’…aka THE NUMBER ONE MSM OUTLET!
    “Islamism is incompatible with democracy. Therefore, you can’t be both an Islamist and a believer in democracy.”
    All religions, and in fact all collectives, are…hence the ‘separation of church and state’.
    “As such, democracy is built around a middle class.”
    I’m sorry but you’re previous argument does not lead to that conclusion.
    How does this: “The point of democracy is its focus on the individual as personally responsible, as someone who by the use of his own individual reason, makes evaluations – based on facts. ”
    somehow lead to the conclusion that democracy is built around the collective majority?
    You give away your intention quite clearly here:
    “This group is empowered”
    “That’s not the question. There is no “attack.””
    No? What would you call the denial of the individual rights guaranteed in the Constitution? And how would you reconcile denying those rights?
    “By God’s grace, Muslims in the West have inherent rights and freedoms that no non-Muslim has in Muslim countries — something to think about, BTJ.”
    Why? It has nothing to do with the issue. We are talking about American citizens…it doesn’t matter what happens in other countries.
    “No one is attacking their inherent rights or freedoms to build a mosque in NYC.”
    What would you call it then!?
    ” BTJ: How do you defend the fact that although Muslims enjoy “inherent rights and freedoms” in the West, there are no commensurate rights and freedoms for non-Muslims in Muslim countries?”
    I don’t defend it, there’s nothing to defend…we’re talking about AMERICAN CITIZENS IN AMERICA…nothing else..it doesn’t matter what happens in other countries.
    “Do you think that Christians, say, should have rights and freedoms in Muslim countries to build a cathedral in Mecca, a parallel situation? If not, why not?”
    They should, but they don’t…because other countries don’t the the rights guaranteed by the American Constitution…luckily we’re talking about AMERICAN CITIZENS IN AMERICA!!!
    “what “inherent rights and freedoms” Muslims have to build a mosque on the site of Ground Zero and not somewhere else?”
    They have the right build it where ever they want so long as the don’t break the law, and own the land.

  39. A lady who is a semi-retired church minister, and does some chaplaincy work in the cancer ward in a Saskatoon hospital told me yesterday at a family reunion that one of the young women at her home church who married a Muslim a number of years ago, has some small children, one of whom is a boy. This woman no longer come to the church.
    This chaplain woman knows all the family members and recently met the family at the cancer ward. The little boy came up to her and said that Ramadan had started and he could kill some infidels now.
    Needles to say, she was quite disturbed about this. So there is at least one little boy in Saskatoon that is being trained for the future.
    Ignore the troll. He or she is probably looking forward to the bloodbath that is coming.

  40. “That is hallowed ground and no religion has a right to build there – and a Muslim mosque in particular.”
    So you would equally be opposed to a Christian church at the site? Or any other religious structure?
    End quote:————-
    If Christians killed 3000 innocents on 9/11 yes I would demand that they not build a Church. Unlike Islam Christians don’t build monuments to a mass murder ala terrorism. We Christisans don’t partake of slavery in the 21st century nor do we riot and burn down our communities over cartoons you loon.

  41. I think we have found the new primary target for every arsonist in New York City. And I think the firefighters will arrive promptly anyhow.

  42. “If Christians killed 3000 innocents on 9/11 yes I would demand that they not build a Church. Unlike Islam Christians don’t build monuments to a mass murder ala terrorism. We Christisans don’t partake of slavery in the 21st century nor do we riot and burn down our communities over cartoons you loon.”
    Thank you for completely ignoring the question, deciding instead to rant on about Christianity vs Islam.
    The quote I was questioning stated the following:
    “no religion has a right to build there”

  43. This outrage – the Mohammad Atta Memorial – is, I believe, going to finally wake a lot of people up to the essential arrogance and supremacism of Islam.
    MAM is the proud work of real, honest to goodness, “moderate” Islam. No criminal fringe to put the blame on for this one.

  44. In all this talk about rights, why don’t we talk about what’s decent, and what’s considerate of those who lost loved ones at ground zero.
    It seems ethics and understanding is something owed Muslim killers and fanatics, but not to the victims: the ones they murdered.

  45. Perhaps the resident troll(s) would like to enlighten the fine posters here about how tolerance works in Islamic countries. Can I go to Mass in Saudi Arabia, the same country which offers funds for mosques to be built on foreign soil?

  46. //Islam is not really a religion but a political and societal doctrine disguised as a religion. Take away that religious veneer and you are left with a hate-filled totalitarian ideology.//
    Islam is a religion. All religions include an ideology. And any monotheistic religion has totalitarian tendancies.

  47. “In all this talk about rights, why don’t we talk about what’s decent, and what’s considerate of those who lost loved ones at ground zero.”
    Ok, but it has absolutely no bearing on the individual rights of American citizens to purchase property and do what the please with it so long as it is within the law.
    A talk on what’s decent and considerate is inherently subjective…so really there’s no ‘right’ or ‘wrong’ answer.
    Should we ban South Park or Family Guy for continually doing things that aren’t ‘decent’ or ‘considerate’ by most people’s standards? Should we go the route of China and censor the internet to eliminate anything that is deemed ‘indecent’ or ‘inconsiderate’? And who should decide such things? Am I to assume that it would be the collective majority? Is this site honestly supporting the collective over the individual rights? The same site that claims to support Ayn Rand’s work? The site that claims to support the individual and the individuals’ rights and freedoms?
    “erhaps the resident troll(s) would like to enlighten the fine posters here about how tolerance works in Islamic countries.”
    Again..WE’RE TALKING ABOUT AMERICAN CITIZENS IN AMERICA…what they do in other countries has no bearing whatsoever…unless of course you are suggesting that we adopt to philosophy and policies of Islamic countries. Is that the case?
    “Can I go to Mass in Saudi Arabia, the same country which offers funds for mosques to be built on foreign soil?”
    No, which is why you should be supporting the rights and freedoms bestowed upon American citizens, rather than suggesting that they be ignored to be replaced by the discrimination of less free nations.
    “Islam is a religion. All religions include an ideology. And any monotheistic religion has totalitarian tendancies. ”
    Well said.

  48. dizzy: You are completely and thoroughly wrong, both historically and factually.
    Christianity, as just one example, does not set out a regime that involves governance of the state … ie: taxation, crime and punishment, banking, etc. It deals only with the congregation of believers and only in matters outside state control; hence it concentrates on “personal” faith.
    The reason is historical. Christianity came into being under the Roman Empire, where all civic and even international norms were set down and enforced by Rome. Christians were scattered throughout the empire and did not enjoy domination in any state. Rome allowed freedom of religion, as long as it did not contravene Roman law, and as long as it did not interfere with taxation, the raising of slaves, the raising of legions, etc.
    Islam grew up later and outside of Roman domination, and by the time Muhammad died it was the dominant force where it abided. Islam codified every single aspect of civic and private life far beyond anything found within Christianity. Islam is, in every sense of the word, a complete system that sets the structure of society far beyond personal belief or local Muslim group … it is a manual for governance.
    Nothing in the New Testament approaches this.

  49. BTJ
    As I said the other-day to DA, I concede the point and support the rights of those that wish to build the mosque at ground zero! Can you please quit saying or inferring that I don’t. Furthermore, I don’t think I’m alone in this. My position, again, is that I think it’s classless to wish to build such a mosque in THIS location. I do not advocate the government intervening on behalf of those that don’t want the mosque there! I do advocate the people that wish to build the mosque there to reconsider building it there, respecting the wishes of their neighbors.Not because they are forced to, but because it’s the classy (and right) thing to do.
    Query: do you see how deciding to build the mosque elsewhere would be a very gracious thing to do?
    PS I’m taking you at your word that you are not DA from the other day, else I would not have responded because I feel DA is being disingenuous about his/her view; therefore, any debate is a waste of time. Regardless of who you are, if you can actually address the issues that I’m bringing-up instead of harping on the same legal argument that has been conceded, I won’t respond.

  50. “Christianity, as just one example, does not set out a regime that involves governance of the state ”
    Huh? Who’s not familiar history? Prior to the US Constitution who ran the state? No one said that all religions ‘set out a regime that involves governance of the state’…that was your own doing. What was said is that all monotheistic religions have totalitarian tendencies. eg. the pope, the King, the fact that it is prescribed that one may not worship any other entity, otherwise one is committing sin.

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